NBA Live 06 Sliders Discussion

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Postby Lurtz on Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:02 am

Poor Release Shot is on 50!
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Postby t_bone_713 on Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:06 am

I do this:

Play an exhibition game on the desired difficulty and with equal overall teams.

If you win then increase the comps sliders by the amount you won by plus 1 and decrease yours.

If you lose then increase your sliders by the amount you lost by plus 1 and decrease the comps.

It could be flawed but its quick and easy.
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Postby Heiks on Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:06 am

That's interesting but completely pointless. I've won stronger and lost to weaker teams with the same sliders. Like in real life, anything can happen.

The best thing to do is to play a series of games and calculate the averages of different stats and then compare tham to the NBA teams' averages and edit the sliders based on the difference.

It may take time, but it's not that difficult and it's way more precise.
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Postby BeeGee on Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:07 am

Does Anybody Agree With Me When I Say You And The Cpu Shoot The

Ball Better And More Realistic With Poor Release At 0 And With Short, Mid

And Long Set From 30 To 35? :wink: :wink: :wink:


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Postby Heiks on Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:41 pm

Pretty much yes. I keep Shootings within that margin too, just the Poor Release @ 15.

Works great.
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Postby pedsdmd on Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:34 am

Hey Guys,

I am playing (CPU VS CPU ) sim 12 mins quarters and getting good results. My scores are a tad to high. Question

My Physical on Ball defense is about 75, will raising it make the computer play better defense hence lower my score?
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Postby BeeGee on Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:46 am

Does Anybody Agree With Me When I Say The Game Runs Better

And More Smoothly With Boundary Force Field Equal To Game

Speed
? :wink:

For Example, I Play At 70 Game Speed And Before I Decided To Use The

Boundary Force Field I Kept It At 0. As A Result I Noticed That

When I Jump For Rebounds I Would Constantly Find My Player Or The

CPU Going Out Of Bounds With The Rebound In Their Hands.

After I Fixed It ^ That Problem Stopped Happening And A Few Other

Things I Disliked Stop Happening And Occuring So Much :

1. :wink: Getting Pushed Behind The Backboard On Lay-Ups (Turnover).

2. :wink: Stepping Out Of Bounds On Corner 3-Point Line Before I Even Made A Move.

3. :wink: That Skating Effect Wasn't A Problem Even At A Game Speed Of 70.


:wink: I'm Also Experimenting At Other Game Speeds And Defense Settings And

I Will Post More Results Later.

Disregard Any Sliders Settings I Posted (Unless You Feel Comfortable Playing With Them) becuase I Am Making Some Based On Your Suggestions And Posts.

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Postby Heiks on Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:04 am

I think we should limit smilies to about max of 5 per post. Anyone with me?
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Postby The_Flying_Tomato on Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:45 pm

No, that's stupid. Limit 1 :twisted:
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Postby dbsimo2002 on Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:45 pm

Bee Gee these are horrible. I crushed the CPU because i shot 70% from the field. 50 is way too high for shooting sliders. I tried yours for one half and i was like 60% from 3 point range.

My shooting cpu human
short 33 33
med 35 36
long 36 40
layup 5 0

also, game speed is OK but you will never get realistic stats. and why do you think that a higher game speed would only help the cpu on fast breaks. it is all relative. the higher the speed the faster all players are going to be. so, even now the cpu get fast breaks and i use speed of 17. 12 minute quarters. even now the cpu has too many shots.
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Postby Lurtz on Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:42 pm

Thank you for your help, but I simply get too less rebounds :(
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Postby BeeGee on Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:43 am

dbsimo2002 wrote:Bee Gee these are horrible. I crushed the CPU because i shot 70% from the field. 50 is way too high for shooting sliders. I tried yours for one half and i was like 60% from 3 point range.

My shooting cpu human
short 33 33
med 35 36
long 36 40
layup 5 0

also, game speed is OK but you will never get realistic stats. and why do you think that a higher game speed would only help the cpu on fast breaks. it is all relative. the higher the speed the faster all players are going to be. so, even now the cpu get fast breaks and i use speed of 17. 12 minute quarters. even now the cpu has too many shots.


:wink: Like I Said Before Please Disregard The Other Sliders I Posted :wink:
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Postby Liveguy7 on Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:03 am

*SLIDERS EXPLAINED*

Level: Highest (Recommended Level: Assuming you use the sliders that are set below, the CPU plays smart and aggressive, but does not cheat. The only level that allows a proper simulation in game play.)
Half Length: 16 minutes (Good length )

Global Sliders

Game Speed: 65 (Game runs just right with this rating)
Free Throw Difficulty: 40 (You can relax a little if player is good at free throws)
Boundary Force Field: 50
Injury Frequency: 10
Fatigue Effect: 50 (Creates good substitution frequency)
Momentum Effectiveness: 75
Charge/Block Foul Frequency: 40
Shooting Foul Frequency: 47 (Able to get to the free-throw line a fair amount of the time)
Reach-in Foul Frequency: 40
In-air Collision Foul Frequency: 47

User Sliders

User Steal Ability: 25
User Interception Ability: 5 (Allows user to pass the ball in peace and disables CPU from constantly intercepting the ball)
User Shot Block Ability: 10 (This allows user to take proper jump shots without getting blocked every other possession)
User Dunk/Lay-up Block Ability: 30
User Freestyle Effectiveness: 30
User Dunk Frequency: 25 (This prevents the game from being a dunk fest)
User Offensive Rebounding: 0 (Eliminates user and cpu getting too many offensive rebounds; game still suffers with this rating though)
User Defensive Rebounding: 100 (Alleviates problem with players not getting enough defensive rebounds; game still suffers with players getting too many offensive rebounds.)
User Fakeout Discipline: 100 (Prevents players from jumping at every shot fake)
User Short Range Shooting: 75
User Medium Range Shooting: 65
User Long Range Shooting: 55
User Dunk Percentage: 75
User Lay-up Percentage: 75
User Adjusted Shot Percentage: 50
User Poor Release Shot Percentage: 50
User Double-team Effectiveness: 50
User Pro Hop Effectiveness: 50
User Drop Step Effectiveness: 50

CPU Sliders

CPU Steal Ability: 25
CPU Interception Ability: 5
CPU Shot Block Ability: 10
CPU Dunk/Lay-up Block Ability: 30
CPU Freestyle Effectiveness: 30
CPU Dunk Frequency: 25
CPU Substitution Frequency: 50
CPU Offensive Rebounding: 0 (Alleviates problem with players not getting enough defensive rebounds)
CPU Defensive Rebounding: 100 (Alleviates problem with players not getting enough defensive rebounds)
CPU Fakeout Discipline: 100
CPU Short Range Shooting: 75 (Any higher than this, scoring is not balanced)
CPU Medium Range Shooting: 65
CPU Long Range Shooting: 55
CPU Dunk Percentage: 75
CPU Lay-up Percentage: 75
CPU Adjusted Shot Percentage: 50
CPU Poor Release Shot Percentage: 50
CPU Double-team Effectiveness: 50
CPU Pro Hop Effectiveness: 50
CPU Drop Step Effectiveness: 50
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Postby BoStE on Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:07 am

Liveguy7 wrote:*SLIDERS EXPLAINED*
Global Sliders

Momentum Effectiveness: 75

Uhh... what is this?!? :?

Liveguy7 wrote:User Short Range Shooting: 75
User Medium Range Shooting: 65
User Long Range Shooting: 55

Don't you think these are a little high? :roll:
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Postby nsic on Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:37 am

hi Andrew good day.im just new here.and i really appreciate your work.just wanna asked if you have created sliders for nba live 2006.if you have can i have it.hehehe.and question also.are you being for what you do?hehehe.thanks.hope to hear from you :D :D
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Postby bigh0rt on Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:03 pm

nsic, welcome to the Forums. I'll answer on Andrew's behalf, since he's not around right now. No, he hasn't made 06 Sliders yet, because he hasn't found a set that he likes enough to release, yet. Not sure about your "are you being for what you do"? I think the word "paid" is missing in there, in which case, I don't think he is, but he should be. :lol:
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Postby jrose57 on Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:38 pm

YO BEEGEE, so which sliders should i use from you, seem like you are going to makea few changes??? CAN u just post the best one that you can make so i can copy it to my game and quickly start my new dynasty, PLZ HURRRY!!! :lol:
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Postby jrose57 on Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:41 pm

PLUS BEEGEE, I REALLY wanna one for 5 mins per quarter, thx, cuz i dun hav that much time to play one game, PLZ HURRY!!!
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Postby Andrew on Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:29 pm

nsic wrote:hi Andrew good day.im just new here.and i really appreciate your work.just wanna asked if you have created sliders for nba live 2006.if you have can i have it.hehehe.and question also.are you being for what you do?hehehe.thanks.hope to hear from you :D :D


Not yet, at least not ones I'm happy to release yet. And no, I'm not paid to run the NLSC, make rosters or develop sliders. Mad as it may seem, I actually prefer it that way.
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Postby wiliands on Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:52 am

My current Sliders:

* Level: Superstar / Quarter Length: 10 minutes

Global

Game Speed: 25
Free Throw Difficulty: 40
Boundary Force Field: 90
Injury Frequency: 45
Fatigue Effect: 60
Charge/Block Foul Frequency: 60
Shooting Foul Frequency: 35
Reach-in Foul Frequency: 35
In-air Collision Foul Frequency: 65

User Sliders

User Steal Ability: 15
User Interception Ability: 15
User Shot Block Ability: 25
User Dunk/Lay-up Block Ability: 25
User Freestyle Effectiveness: 30
User Dunk vs. Lay-up Frequency: 35
User Substitution Frequency: 50
User On-ball Defense Assist: 100
User Offensive Rebounding: 0
User Defensive Rebounding: 100
User Fakeout Discipline: 80
User Short Range Shooting: 30
User Medium Range Shooting: 33 -> Last Modifications
User Long Range Shooting: 37 -> Last Modifications
User Dunk Percentage: 45 -> Last Modifications
User Lay-up Percentage: 40
User Adjusted Shot Percentage: 15
User On-ball Physical Defense: 95
User Poor Release Shot Percent: 25
User Double-team Effectiveness: 80
User Pro Hop Effectiveness: 10
User Drop Step Effectiveness: 10

CPU Sliders

CPU Steal Ability: 15
CPU Interception Ability: 15
CPU Shot Block Ability: 25
CPU Dunk/Lay-up Block Ability: 25
CPU Freestyle Effectiveness: 30
CPU Dunk Frequency: 35
CPU Substitution Frequency: 60
CPU Offensive Rebounding: 0
CPU Defensive Rebounding: 100
CPU Fakeout Discipline: 95
CPU Short Range Shooting: 30
CPU Medium Range Shooting: 33 -> Last Modifications
CPU Long Range Shooting: 37 -> Last Modifications
CPU Dunk Percentage: 45 -> Last Modifications
CPU Lay-up Percentage: 40
CPU Adjusted Shot Percentage: 15
CPU Adjusted Shot Frequency: 15
CPU On-ball Physical Defense: 95
CPU Poor Release Shot Percent: 25
CPU Double-team Effectiveness: 80
CPU Pro Hop Effectiveness: 5
CPU Drop Step Effectiveness: 5
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Postby pedsdmd on Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:16 am

pedsdmd wrote:Hey Guys,

I am playing (CPU VS CPU ) sim 12 mins quarters and getting good results. My scores are a tad to high. Question

My Physical on Ball defense is about 75, will raising it make the computer play better defense hence lower my score?


*bump*
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Postby Jure on Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:23 am

how many point and rebounds are you have, when is game over?
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Re: YO BEEGEE

Postby BeeGee on Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:57 am

jrose57 wrote:YO BEEGEE, so which sliders should i use from you, seem like you are going to makea few changes??? CAN u just post the best one that you can make so i can copy it to my game and quickly start my new dynasty, PLZ HURRRY!!! :lol:


:wink: I Wil Post The New Set Of Sliders Soon


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Postby furbysaur on Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:23 am

TheBatman wrote:
pedsdmd wrote:Hey Guys,

I like to play a 12 min sim ( CPU vs. CPU) and watch the results. Can anyone suggest the best sliders for that.


~*~*~The Most Realistic Settings for 12 Minute Quarters~*~*~

GLOBAL

GAME SPEED - 40
FREE THROW - 75
FORCE FIELD - 100
INJURY - 5
FATIGUE - 45
CHARGE/BLOCK - 25
SHOOTING FOUL - 25
REACH IN - 25
IN-AIR COLLISION - 25

USER

STEAL - 25
INTERCEPTION - 0
BLOCK SHOTS - 25
DUNK/LAYUP BLOCK - 25
FREESTYLE EFFECT - 75
DUNK VS LAYUP - 25
SUB FREQ - 45
ON-BALL DEF ASST - 100
OFF REB - 40
DEF REB - 75
FAKEOUT DISCIPLINE - 40
SHORT RANGE - 23
MED RANGE - 23
LONG RANGE - 23
DUNK % - 23
LAYUP % - 23
ADJUSTED SHOT - 23
ON-BALL PHYS DEF - 100
POOR RELEASE - 23
DOUBLE TEAM - 75
PRO HOP - 25
DROP STEP - 40

CPU

STEAL - 25
INTERCEPTION - 0
BLOCK SHOTS - 25
DUNK/LAYUP BLOCK - 25
FREESTYLE EFFECT - 75
DUNK VS LAYUP - 25
SUB FREQ - 45
OFF REB - 40
DEF REB - 75
FAKEOUT DISCIPLINE - 40
SHORT RANGE - 23
MED RANGE - 23
LONG RANGE - 23
DUNK % - 23
LAYUP % - 23
ADJUSTED SHOT - 23
ADJ SHOT FREQ - 75
ON-BALL PHYS DEF - 100
POOR RELEASE - 23
DOUBLE TEAM - 75
PRO HOP - 25
DROP STEP - 40


batman, you've got nice sliders. i like the way you tweaked the med range, and long range to 23. it makes jumpshooting and 3 pointing a little bit difficult. i've altered some attributes however.. since i don't play at 12 mins per quarter.. i've set the speed to 80 (yeah i like playing fast!), 6 min quarters. user drop step and pro hop: 0, off reb: 0... and, i do the subs by myself :) so sub freq: 0. still, nice work dude.
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Postby jrose57 on Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:17 pm

batman, you've got nice sliders. i like the way you tweaked the med range, and long range to 23. it makes jumpshooting and 3 pointing a little bit difficult. i've altered some attributes however.. since i don't play at 12 mins per quarter.. i've set the speed to 80 (yeah i like playing fast!), 6 min quarters. user drop step and pro hop: 0, off reb: 0... and, i do the subs by myself so sub freq: 0. still, nice work dude.

I fink i need to agree wit u cuz u got the point, THE MED RANGE AND LONG RANGE IS ONLY 23, which is very good, all other sliders make scoring easy, but this time, fink is gonna be a lot harder for both user n cpu, although i will probably change the cpu one to around 26 cuz i wanna more challenge, agreee?
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