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Draft Combine Results

Postby --- on Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:09 pm

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PLAYER HEIGHT (no shoes) HEIGHT (with shoes) WEIGHT WINGSPAN STANDING REACH

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Corey Brewer        6-6.75  6-7.75  185  6-8.75  8-7
Mike Conley         5-11.75 6-0.75  175  6-5.75  7-10.5
Daequan Cook        6-3.75  6-5.75  203  6-8.25  8-5.5
Javaris Crittenton  6-3     6-4.75  194  6-5.5   8-2
Kevin Durant        6-9     6-10.25 215  7-4.75  9-2
Jeff Green          6-7.75  6-9.5   228  7-1.25  8-7
Spencer Hawes       6-10.5  7-0.75  244  7-0.5   9-2
Al Horford          6-8.75  6-9.75  244  7-0.75  8-11
Acie Law            6-2     6-3.5   186  6-6.5   8-2
Josh McRoberts      6-8.75  6-10    240  7-1     8-10.5
Greg Oden           6-11    7-0     257  7-4.25  9-4
Joakim Noah         6-10.5  7-0     223  7-1.75  8-10.5
Jason Smith         6-10.75 6-11.5  233  6-10.75 8-10
Rodney Stuckey      6-3.75  6-4.5   207  6-7.5   8-4.5
Al Thornton         6-5.75  6-7     221  7-1     8-8
Brandan Wright      6-8.75  6-10    200  7-3.75  9-0
Julian Wright       6-6.5   6-8.5   211  7-2.25  9-0
Nick Young          6-5     6-6.75  206  7-0     8-4.5
Thaddeus Young      6-5.75  6-7.5   210  6-11.5  8-10


PLAYER NO STEP VERTICAL MAX VERTICAL BENCH PRESS LANE AGILITY 3/4 COURT SPRINT

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Corey Brewer       30.5  36.5  11  11.69  3.22
Mike Conley        35.5  40.5  13  11.63  3.09
Daequan Cook       30    34.5  4   11.12  3.22
Javaris Crittenton 32.5  38    11  11.6   3.32
Kevin Durant       26    33    0   12.33  3.45
Jeff Green         33.5  38    17  12.0   3.34
Spencer Hawes      26    29    9   11.88  3.51
Al Horford         31    35.5  20  12.15  3.37
Acie Law           29    34    8   11.0   3.22
Josh McRoberts     27.5  31.5  12  11.7   3.47
Greg Oden          32    34    0   11.67  3.27
Joakim Noah        32.5  37.5  12  11.79  3.47
Jason Smith        33.5  37.5  15  10.96  3.29
Rodney Stuckey     30.5  35    14  11.34  3.11
Al Thornton        35    41.5  9   11.96  3.16
Brandan Wright     30.5  35.5  2   11.48  3.36
Julian Wright      28.5  33.5  2   11.48  3.36
Nick Young         39.5  40.5  6   11.0   3.25
Thaddeus Young     34.5  37    13  11.06  3.19


Well, the results regarding Kevin Durant really didn't suprise me. I always laughed when people said he was a "freakish" athlete - the amazing dunks he pulls off are almost completely because of his massive wingspan, not his jumping ability. Not at one point during the season did Kevin look fast either, but I never knew Oden was quicker.

Kevin failed to bench 185 pounds even once, the same weight Mike Conley lifted 13 times. His wingspan probably didn't help him there. Oden didn't do the bench press because he was worried about aggravating his almost healed wrist.

Mike Conley was far more athletic than a thought. He was the fastest player at the combine, benched more than his own body weight 13 times and has a 40 inch vertical to boot.

I didn't watch Oden play a whole lot, maybe 5 or 6 games, but his numbers are very impressive. Greg was on par with alot of athletic wing players in the 3/4 court sprint, which really shocked me with him being a 7 footer. In the lane agility test he scored just 0.07 seconds slower than Javaris Crittenton, a super athletic PG known for his quick first step and good speed. He scored just 0.04 seconds slower fellow Buckeye Mike Conley, who turned out to be the fastest player at the combine as I mentioned before. Everyone knows Conley is quick, and the fact a 7 footer was on par with his quickness in the lane agility test isn't a knock on Conley, more of a showcase of Oden's speed and agility as a big. Amazing.

Kevin was on par with JJ Redick in terms of jumping ability. He got 26 inches on the no step vertical, while Redick jumped 27.5 inches. Redick had the same max vertical jump as Durant at 33 inches.

I wonder if I'll still have to listen to the ESPN "analysts" go on at the draft about Kevin's "freakish" athleticism...

KD is by far my favorite player out of this class and is easily the player I have watched the closest over the last few years, but people are hyping him up way to much. He is just going to be Rashard Lewis 2.0 at this point, but more aggresive and more dynamic as a scorer. He is actually unathletic, but his massive wingspan (bigger than Greg Oden's) somewhat makes up for that. That is what got him all his blocked shots this season. He really isn't a good defender, under average for the NBA level.

It's just stupid to say anyone in this draft should go ahead of Greg Oden.

EDIT: Just saw maes post, I was a bit late.
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Postby Axel on Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:44 pm

Brandan Wright only got 2 reps on the benchpress.

Mike Conley had 13.

A bit sad for a 4?
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Postby --- on Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:49 pm

Brandan is skinny as hell and has a massive wingspan. I'd imagine it would be pretty hard to bench when your not only weak, but also tree branches for arms.
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Postby Axel on Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:12 pm

Yeah, but I remember kids in 9th grade freshman PE being able to bench 185.

No excuse, he really needs to bulk up.
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Postby -BHZMAFIA- on Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:01 pm

I'm looking for Memphis to go ahead and pick up Horford. Looks like he was a beast during the workout getting the most reps.
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Postby The X on Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:57 pm

-BHZMAFIA- wrote:I'm looking for Memphis to go ahead and pick up Horford. Looks like he was a beast during the workout getting the most reps.

yeah, I agree, Memphis would be a good fit for Horford....Gasol needs all the help he can get inside & I don't think the team can afford to wait on a guy like Wright or Yianlian to flourish....they need someone who can step in right away & help them win ball games in the tough West....
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Postby grusom on Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:41 am

Some of those players are wearing some massive shoes :O Julian Wright grows 2 full inches after putting on his boots apparently - give me some of those and I'll play forward next year!

I am pretty impressed with Al Thornton, Jason Smith and Noah's verticals, far better than i had expected. Josh McRoberts disapoints though - I thought he was more athletic after watching some nice highlight dunks if his. I had expected better from Brandan Wright aswell since nbadraft.net gave his athletic ability a 10/10.

Thanks for the link Shannon

EDIT: WOW - just noticed Nick Youngs no-step vertical. That's amazing! He should do the center jump for whatever team he ends up on :-)
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Postby maes on Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:56 am

Axel wrote:Brandan Wright only got 2 reps on the benchpress.

Mike Conley had 13.

A bit sad for a 4?


Long wingspan guys never benchpress well, but 2 is unusually low for a 4. Lemarcus Alridge isn't considered a beast by any means and he did 8.

What i'm curious about, what was with Greg Oden's 0? Did he skip this part of the test because of his wrist? Is his wrist STILL hurt?
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Postby hammertime23 on Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:03 am

Shannon wrote:Oden didn't do the bench press because he was worried about aggravating his almost healed wrist.
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Postby grusom on Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:12 am

maes wrote: Lemarcus Alridge isn't considered a beast by any means and he did 8.


Have you got the stats from last years workout? If so, please share - I would like to see simular files on as many NBA players as possible.
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Postby cobber on Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:42 am

Conley is starting to look pretty good at the #3 spot. He's got the strength, speed, quickness and jumping ability. Plus he showed flashes of greatness (or at least goodness) towards the end of the season.

I really think he would be a good pick for the Atlana. They really need a PG to lead their young nucleus, and they can't afford to repeat what they did in 2005 when they passed on not one, but two franchise pg's.

One interesting thought would be if Portland traded off Randolph (and maybe Jack) for a high draft spot in order to pick up Conley. It would be awesome to see Oden and Conley play together in the pro's and the Blazers would have an outstanding young nucleus:

C - Oden
PF - Alridge
SF - Miles or Webster
SG - Roy
PG - Conley
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Postby Sauru on Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:07 am

it would be a good team on paper,and look really good for the future, but too many young players will only cause this team to fail. we have seen it far to many times that a team full of young promissing players never lives up to the hype. these teams usually end up breaking up due to free agency also. i think they keep who they got and atleast wait til the trade deadline to make any moves. if they do have to make a trade, get a vet who can bring in some real leadership.
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Postby maes on Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:09 pm

grusom wrote:Have you got the stats from last years workout? If so, please share - I would like to see simular files on as many NBA players as possible.


Yep here you go:

http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1352
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Postby --- on Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:18 pm

Have you got the stats from last years workout? If so, please share - I would like to see simular files on as many NBA players as possible.


http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1352

IMO These results further prove that Thaddeus Young anywhere outside the top 10 (or even near the end of the top 10) is a huge steal. He has incredible potential.

EDIT: Second time maes has beat me to it. :lame:
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Postby Indy on Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:28 pm

I watched every game Mike Conley played this year, and I'm shocked his vertical was that good. It's sort of a useless stat, because I never saw him jump that high in game.
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Postby Silas on Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:28 pm

Same with Brandon Roy, his vertical is off the charts but you'd consider him one of those highflyer players.
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Postby maes on Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:41 pm

Yeah they're not the best gauge of athleticism. Look at how well James Augustine scored for a big man, his #s blow Oden's out of the water in every way yet he can barely play in the NBA while Oden will dominate.

It's kinda like trying to gauge how good a shooter a person is by seeing from how far away from the basket he can make a shot.

Maybe if they ran all these guys 30 minutes and then made them take 20 jumps & averaged, we'd get more useful info. But that's what the private workouts are for.
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Postby grusom on Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:09 pm

maes wrote:
grusom wrote:Have you got the stats from last years workout? If so, please share - I would like to see simular files on as many NBA players as possible.


Yep here you go:

http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1352


thanks maes - and to you too Shannon, nice try :-)
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Postby Laxation on Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:50 pm

This stuff is overrated IMO

Too much emphasis on how fast someone can run, how high they can jump, instead of just looking at how they play.

Take Millsap for example. I was looking at his college stats before the draft, wondering why he was pegged to go in the 2nd round. He won the rebounding 3 fucking years in a row... Who cares if he 6'8", he can obviously play...
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Postby grusom on Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:17 pm

Laxation wrote:This stuff is overrated IMO

Too much emphasis on how fast someone can run, how high they can jump, instead of just looking at how they play.

Take Millsap for example. I was looking at his college stats before the draft, wondering why he was pegged to go in the 2nd round. He won the rebounding 3 fucking years in a row... Who cares if he 6'8", he can obviously play...


You are probably right - I just finished reading this article, and it helped me realize how inaccurate those combines can be: http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1351

But it's still the best avaiable option to give impressions on the players athletical ability.
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Postby TSquared on Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:28 pm

cobber wrote:Conley is starting to look pretty good at the #3 spot. He's got the strength, speed, quickness and jumping ability. Plus he showed flashes of greatness (or at least goodness) towards the end of the season.

I really think he would be a good pick for the Atlana. They really need a PG to lead their young nucleus, and they can't afford to repeat what they did in 2005 when they passed on not one, but two franchise pg's.

One interesting thought would be if Portland traded off Randolph (and maybe Jack) for a high draft spot in order to pick up Conley. It would be awesome to see Oden and Conley play together in the pro's and the Blazers would have an outstanding young nucleus:

C - Oden
PF - Alridge
SF - Miles or Webster
SG - Roy
PG - Conley


i think they should also include Darius Miles in the trade coz he is close to useless.. although this guy was a great athlete.. he is sooo fragile.. i bet he gets injured this upcoming year...
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Postby -BHZMAFIA- on Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:51 am

Shannon wrote:
Have you got the stats from last years workout? If so, please share - I would like to see simular files on as many NBA players as possible.


http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1352

IMO These results further prove that Thaddeus Young anywhere outside the top 10 (or even near the end of the top 10) is a huge steal. He has incredible potential.

EDIT: Second time maes has beat me to it. :lame:


Well I don't know about the top 10, but Thad is a very good player and I don't think enough teams are really looking at him. He could really be a great player in this league given the chance because he has the work ethic and isn't a bad kid.
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Postby Its_asdf on Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:51 am

Shannon wrote:http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1352

IMO These results further prove that Thaddeus Young anywhere outside the top 10 (or even near the end of the top 10) is a huge steal. He has incredible potential.

EDIT: Second time maes has beat me to it. :lame:


Shannon let's make love. Seriously.

What I said in the other draft thread wrote:These combine results once again fuel my love for Thaddeus Young... I can't wait to see this leftie play next year.
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Postby beau_boy04 on Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:53 am

exactly you would not think that Nba player were weaker than normal people right? well I know that shorter guys with shorter arms have it easier lifting weight and stuff and the same goes with push up, it is easier for me coz the distance they have to travelled to make one repetition is much shorter compared to those nba prospect with long arms. But don't worry guys those nba prospects will catch up with us and surpass us in no time - why? because thats their job... unless of course you're a bust and don't give a damn about your game and are just there to collect a paycheck.
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Postby Indy on Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:08 am

I think Thad will be a steal too, but these combine tests show absolutely nothing. Look at last year. The player who did the best was David Noel. Brandon Roy was ranked 30th.
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