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Billy Donovan to coach Magic, then backs out of it

Postby Buckley on Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:50 am

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2888555

Wow big money. never saw this coming.

Your thoughts?
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Postby Sauru on Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:07 am

my thoughts are, when lame ass noah starts to slip the magic will pick him up for no good reason. just like the celtics did with walker and everyone to make pitino happy.
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Postby Buckley on Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:24 am

Sauru wrote:my thoughts are, when lame ass noah starts to slip the magic will pick him up for no good reason. just like the celtics did with walker and everyone to make pitino happy.


So youre counting on Noah slipping to pick 44? :?

Taurean Green could go at 44, though.
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Postby Matthew on Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:42 am

Suaru never said anything about the draft. There are other ways to aquiring players then the draft exclusively.
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Postby scrub on Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:30 pm

Too much money for a college coach. And six years is fucking ridiculous.
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Postby Sauru on Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:45 pm

considering college coaches usually fail in the pros, i fully agree.
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Postby Buckley on Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:00 am

Matthew wrote:Suaru never said anything about the draft. There are other ways to aquiring players then the draft exclusively.


when he was referring to noah slipping id assume that would be drafting him directly, of course orlando could try and trade up.
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Postby Matt on Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:20 am

my thoughts are, when lame ass noah starts to slip the magic will pick him up for no good reason. just like the celtics did with walker and everyone to make pitino happy.


i thought you'd be happy since it'd mean no Noah for Celts.
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Postby Sauru on Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:56 am

Matt wrote:
my thoughts are, when lame ass noah starts to slip the magic will pick him up for no good reason. just like the celtics did with walker and everyone to make pitino happy.


i thought you'd be happy since it'd mean no Noah for Celts.




so long as he lands anywhere but boston i will be happy lol.
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Postby Jeffx on Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:17 am

Sauru wrote:considering college coaches usually fail in the pros, i fully agree.


These cats NEVER learn. A college coach with a winning program is set for life, plus you're treated like God on campus. I know the loot's tempting, but why leave easy street for the hassles of the NBA(meddling owners, superstar egos, medis scrutiny)? Donovan should have followed Pete Carroll's example. Aside from Larry Brown, I can't think of any coach who's had success in both places.

No way in hell Ainge drafts Noah - he can't be that out of it.
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Postby Anthony15 on Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:02 am

Hopefully he won't be a bad coach like most of the former College coaches were, on Mike and Mike today they showed the coaches that went from college to pros, best one had 42% winning with Warriors. GL making Howard the next Shaq
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Postby Indy on Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:42 am

Anthony15 wrote:Hopefully he won't be a bad coach like most of the former College coaches were, on Mike and Mike today they showed the coaches that went from college to pros, best one had 42% winning with Warriors. GL making Howard the next Shaq


I'm assuming that's reffering to a college coaches first season with an NBA team, because Larry Brown was originally a college coach.

That stat is unfair anyways, because most teams that fire their coach and then go the college coach route are terrible anyways.

I think Brian Hill is a better coach then he gets credit for, and I don't think Orlando should have fired him.

However, I think Billy will do fine in Orlando. Most of the college coaches who didn't have success in the NBA had success in college mostly because of recruiting. Donovan is a good recruiter but that was just a well coached team. I think he deserves a shot at an NBA job.
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Postby Drex on Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:22 am

Just asking, why do people hate/don't like Noah?
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Postby The X on Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:38 am

Drex wrote:Just asking, why do people hate/don't like Noah?

I think it's the hair :roll:

I don't mind Noah though, but I think it's just because of all the hype he was given after one big tourney run, & the fact that he's so eccentric, or not adding to his game....I dunno really....
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Postby Indy on Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:46 am

It's mostly because he didn't get any better this year. If anything he went backwards, so he isn't looking like a guy with much potential.
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Postby ixcuincle on Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:17 pm

At first I was opposed to this , but after reading an article about it , I have changed my opinion completely.

Donovan said how much Pitino reiterated that the Magic situation was perfect for him. The Magic has a young roster highlighted by a star center in Dwight Howard and a rising stud at point guard in Jameer Nelson. There was the potential that Grant Hill could return (he's deciding by July 1). There was the possibility of working with Darko Milicic (a restricted free agent) and Trevor Ariza. The team made the playoffs and is expected to have $10 million to $13 million of salary-cap space.


http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?secti ... id=5360303

Good luck to him.
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Postby Matt on Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:05 pm

he wont last more than 3yrs.
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Postby Ty-Land on Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:14 pm

Jeffx wrote:
Sauru wrote:considering college coaches usually fail in the pros, i fully agree.


These cats NEVER learn. A college coach with a winning program is set for life, plus you're treated like God on campus. I know the loot's tempting, but why leave easy street for the hassles of the NBA(meddling owners, superstar egos, medis scrutiny)? Donovan should have followed Pete Carroll's example. Aside from Larry Brown, I can't think of any coach who's had success in both places.

No way in hell Ainge drafts Noah - he can't be that out of it.


That's the exact reason why they had to throw so much money at him, plus a long contract. It had to be an offer that would take him away from Florida, so it had to be better than the 3 million a year he was going to get, have long term security (which he was slated to have the Florida job as long as he wanted it) and provide enough reason to leave the college coaching circle to try something new.

It's a bold move by the magic. If it works they'll look fantastic, if it fails they will look very foolish considering the past history of coaches making the transition.
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Postby Sauru on Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:28 pm

Drex wrote:Just asking, why do people hate/don't like Noah?




well i got him pegged as the flop of this draft class and since i have seen him on a few mock drafts going to the celtics, and knowing ainge is a complete idiot, i got worried. that worry coupled with the fact that i am damn sure noah will flop has made me hate him.
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Postby Matt on Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:52 am

Noah = Battier.......think Battier went 7th, deff. too high.
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Postby The X on Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:49 pm

Matt wrote:Noah = Battier.......think Battier went 7th, deff. too high.

I think Battier went No. 3 overall, didn't he?!? not sure, but as I recall, that was a weak draft (like the 2006 draft)....looking at Battier's career, it's been long & solid....he was a safe, starter pick when taken, just was the Grizzlies needed....better than a Ron Mercer, a Samaki Walker or Lorenzen Wright or whoever was picked in his year....so I wouldn't call it too high....

personally I wouldn't compare Noah to Battier as coming out of college, Battier was a better defender & a more polished offensive player than Noah is currently....although Noah has more size, length, athleticism & upside....
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Postby Gedas on Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:53 pm

Yes, Battier went as the third pick.

Speaking about the Magic, it is obviously a risky move, but it may work out. A coach who has led Florida to two consecutive titles has to be respected. With that huge salary cap space it is almost certain that the team will aquire another highest class player and that could help Orlando go more than the first round, hopefully.
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Postby Sauru on Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:55 pm

i guess time will tell how good he can be in the nba. i dont blame him for leaving though. i dont see florida winning again this year and if you drive a dump truck full of money to my front door i would take it also.
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Postby ixcuincle on Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:30 pm

The word is that he is reconsidering his decision and thinking of going back to Florida? Pulling a Dana Altman?

(ps : Altman was the coach of a mid-major , don't remember which , who went to another school for a few days then went back because he felt it was the wrong decision.)

link : http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/6883162
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Postby Sauru on Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:21 pm

i heard this too when i was wakeing up. was not too sure what i was really hearing though as it was my alarm clock wakeing me up with the story so i was still a bit out of it lol.
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