.:My Tweaked Roster Patch - BY DK 1/24/03 UPDATE OUT:.

by **joemimic** on Fri Nov 29, 2002 10:39 am

Entire Game Cleveland Sacramento

Points 91 92
Bench Scoring 27 20
Field Goals 37/72 39/71
Field Goal % .514 .549
3 Point FG 5/17 4/14
3 Point % .294 .286
Free Throws 12/20 10/26
Free Throw % .600 .385
Rebounds 39 32
Off. Rebounds 7 5
Def. Rebounds 32 27
Blocks 0 2
Steals 10 12
Assists 23 20
Turnovers 22 15
Fouls 29 16

Yeah i missed alot of free throws but they jumped out to a 16-0 lead! I couldn't believe it, but I got stripped so many times trying to post up I started to get frustrated but i kept working. My biggest problem is Ricky Davis going 11/19 with all but 1 shot being on a dunk or layup but other than that it was pretty good %'s still high. Maybe someone will make a patch that evens out things for us who like to get in the post and bang.

by DK on Fri Nov 29, 2002 10:44 am

Well the steals are really reduced so I don't see what is causing your turnovers BUT if you are getting doubled and dribbling while a man is hacking on you topside where you are not protecting the ball at all you should expect to get it stolen. Think about it all he has to do is extend his arm and he will be in the path of the dribble, you have to pass out and repost or pick up your dribble.

by **SUDI 5 29** on Fri Nov 29, 2002 11:22 am

Here's my game with the settings. I was Boston.

Code: Select all: Entire Game Atlanta Boston Points 75 76 Bench Scoring 15 16 Field Goals 24/61 29/67 Field Goal % .393 .433 3 Point FG 4/20 4/8 3 Point % .200 .500 Free Throws 23/30 14/17 Free Throw % .767 .824 Rebounds 31 44 Off. Rebounds 3 10 Def. Rebounds 28 34 Blocks 2 2 Steals 8 7 Assists 15 19 Turnovers 13 14 Fouls 24 26

by DK on Fri Nov 29, 2002 12:16 pm

What do you guys think about muliplying FG and 3PT by 1.08 and Iiside Scoring by .90

This would alow a couple more jumpers and 3s to fall while making a couple of post ups miss.

Also I noticed most are combining for about 150 shots a game between teams when it should be around 170. Maybe quarters should be bumped to 9 MIN?

by **SUDI 5 29** on Fri Nov 29, 2002 12:20 pm

Yeah, that's a good idea. You should also lower Dunking a lot, cause prime time dunks are way too easy. I know it really doesn't matter in the end, layup, dunk, just it would be a little more realistic.

Steals could be lowered just a little, not much...

Primacy may need to be tweaked, John Stockton was lighting me up in the paint last game...so I just shut it off.

Do what you want, it's your patch, I'll test it.

by DK on Fri Nov 29, 2002 12:36 pm

New Update Out

Code: Select all: NEW UPDATE/EDITS TO ROSTERS ABOVE FG * 1.08 3PT * 1.08 INSSCO * .90 STEALS * .90 DUNKS * .85 PRIMACY * .90 PG PRIMACY * .90 Again

This should make inside game more sloppy while allowing more outside jumpers to go in, now all dunks should not be automatic and PGs will not be looking to burn you at every corner.

**********GET IT HERE**********

EDIT - Made mistake while updating steals, now fixed (.90 instead of .75)

by **greenmig** on Fri Nov 29, 2002 1:26 pm

if u guys want a roster patch that will do the following;

1. cpu defenders get physical with you in the paint, front u, side u - like rodman used to do.
2. no easy layins or dunks - in yer grill D!
3. not too much freestyle b/s & ridiculous plays in traffic - except for the stars
4. guys bumpin you off the blocks - when u back guys in they will resist & push u out esp on jump hooks in the lane
5. hacking u as u drive in the lane - opposing paint players do not want to end up in yer poster baby.
6. collosal tussles on the boards - even guys getting injured and banged up - u will see the coach working overtime on subs as guys chew up the fouls
7. blown pressure layins & dunks - when there r 3 guys draped on the the guy trying to score, (human or cpu) the shot wont always go down - this removes the original ridiculous scoring skills of some players...however guys like kobe will still usually embaras u.
8. slow down run the clock - bang it down into the big fella - you gotta keep playin D in the post as the cpu pg's will be sedning it down to their big fellas on a regular basis
9. much less outside bombing - pg's, sg's will look to pass first
10. not too much run n gun - but u gotta get back & not slack off on D.
11. up to date 26/11/02 rosters & rotations - all teams starters r accurate & the bench is utilised as per real nba mins/gm

then my roster patch is the one u want...

just give me a holla & i'll send u the players.dbf file

greenmig
ps: this is a work in progress & no responsibility or liability will be taken if the patch screws yer pc & or the game play is not to your satisfaction
pps: if u like run n gun then this not the patch for u

by **hihihi316** on Fri Nov 29, 2002 1:39 pm

i got a weird stat using your second last tweak..(original one)

Entire Game Philadelphia Cleveland

Points 98 106
Bench Scoring 15 36
Field Goals 43/76 43/73
Field Goal % .566 .589
3 Point FG 8/21 4/12
3 Point % .381 .333
Free Throws 4/5 16/21
Free Throw % .800 .762
Rebounds 30 31
Off. Rebounds 6 5
Def. Rebounds 24 26
Blocks 3 1
Steals 10 13
Assists 25 28
Turnovers 16 12
Fouls 17 5

just like what you said...i changed it to all-star and more wise jump shot choices (90 to 76?)...and even though cleveland is not a good jump shooting team...they were draining every jump shot even with defender in front... and i was too... there were therefore less rebounds...i think fg%for both teams were too high...so i definitely think fg should be drastically lowered...and the cleves were running the court like crazy~!!!! and they were making every fastbreak... so the speed was the same as before...i want and i know many want it to be alot slower paced...[/quote]

by DK on Fri Nov 29, 2002 1:57 pm

green - no need to spam in my thread, its fine that you have your patch and I'm sure you have your own thread so please stop spamming in mine.

Now here are some more stats using the new version of the roster

Code: Select all: Entire Game Boston Detroit Points 104 86 Bench Scoring 27 36 Field Goals 39/89 37/86 Field Goal % .438 .430 3 Point FG 5/15 8/26 3 Point % .333 .308 Free Throws 21/26 4/4 Free Throw % .808 1.000 Rebounds 61 35 Off. Rebounds 21 6 Def. Rebounds 40 29 Blocks 6 3 Steals 8 10 Assists 11 21 Turnovers 14 14 Fouls 8 24

This one is better, more jumpers fell, less gimmies inside, and a few laups and dunks muffed.

by **hamslammer** on Fri Nov 29, 2002 2:19 pm

Nice work DK. You've made this game more enjoyable with the roster you made and the tips you gave. Thanks.

by **joemimic** on Fri Nov 29, 2002 2:56 pm

I still don't why Ricky Davis can get 10 dunks/layups, and Miles hit a 19 footer with a hand in his face, Miles can't hit a 19 footer when he's wide open. I think cleveland is too good on this, as the other guy had a problem with Cleveland too. Here is my offense I like to screen and roll, post up ALOT (which i get stripped quite a few times for) and post and kick out to the open man. That could be why I get high %s.

by **daHiVE** on Sat Nov 30, 2002 2:12 am

here´s another game, tried the new tweaks...

Code: Select all: Entire Game Miami Phoenix Points 84 86 Bench Scoring 19 20 Field Goals 35/77 39/89 Field Goal % .455 .438 3 Point FG 8/17 5/20 3 Point % .471 .250 Free Throws 6/8 3/5 Free Throw % .750 .600 Rebounds 32 49 Off. Rebounds 4 15 Def. Rebounds 28 34 Blocks 5 6 Steals 7 6 Assists 27 22 Turnovers 9 11 Fouls 4 10

eddie jones lit me up for 33 pts(4/5 treys) shooting the heat back from a 58-40 deficit but i was able to hang on for the w.
steals and blocks are great now, shooting % is also ok.

by DK on Sat Nov 30, 2002 2:17 am

I think that no matter what quick and agile guys like Davis who like to take it to the hole will beat the human because of their athleticism as a last resort I would try to let the CPU guard them.

Also when you post up you can't keep dribbling when doubled since you are not protecting the ball.

I'm just glad I could help some people enjoy this game.

by DK on Sat Nov 30, 2002 3:37 am

New Update Out!

This updates the rosters of EVERY team and places the correct players on the IR as of 11/28/02 according to this site

Some signings were made and players like Hakeem and Mourning were retired. All players on IR in real life are now on IR in the game.

The only problem was Toronto because the had 17 guys on the roster including Hakeem, after I retired Hakeem I decided to not sign Montross since he is on IR and not playing any way all other teams should be spot on.

GET IT HERE

BTW this overwrites anything in the save slot 006

by **SUDI 5 29** on Sat Nov 30, 2002 3:49 am

Damn, DK you must be really good at this game.

In the 5 games you've posted, you are 5-0, and have won by 12, 23, 13, 14 and 18.

I barely won my game that I posted here.

by DK on Sat Nov 30, 2002 3:54 am

It's all about pulling away at the end by running the break when they start crashing the boards, it's usually in single digits untill the game breaks open late.

by **Stonecold** on Sat Nov 30, 2002 4:36 am

Is your active roster tweaked? C YA

by **KDWilliams85** on Sat Nov 30, 2002 4:43 am

I downloaded your roster... here are the game stats

Entire Game Houston Toronto

Points 111 102
Bench Scoring 18 42
Field Goals 49/98 42/90
Field Goal % .500 .467
3 Point FG 7/28 12/31
3 Point % .250 .387
Free Throws 6/8 6/11
Free Throw % .750 .545
Rebounds 48 36
Off. Rebounds 10 3
Def. Rebounds 38 33
Blocks 8 3
Steals 13 16
Assists 25 26
Turnovers 22 16
Fouls 6 8

by DK on Sat Nov 30, 2002 4:54 am

Stonecold

Yes

by **Stonecold** on Sat Nov 30, 2002 5:03 am

Thank DK, do you recommended to play in 9 mins? WHat about time sim? 12 mins or 9?

by DK on Sat Nov 30, 2002 5:05 am

Sim probably 12

by DK on Sat Nov 30, 2002 6:01 am

Code: Select all: New Tweak STEALS * .50

Players were still making about 16 steals per game when NBA average is around 7. Now the Higest players have 60 and lowest 50.

Link still the same

HERE

Later I will be looking into possibly increasing jumpers a little bit (* 1.05 Maybe) and try to make post play less automatic.

by **Coldkevin** on Sat Nov 30, 2002 6:42 am

Hey Man!!!

Your last two rosters files are corrupted!

You better take a control!

However i like your tweaked rosters and i hope that you will correct the problem....

SEE 'YA!!!!!!

by **SUDI 5 29** on Sat Nov 30, 2002 6:58 am

Two games played with the roster. 9-Mins. Arcade. All-Star. Maxed Fouls.

Code: Select all: Entire Game Phoenix San Antonio Points 63 99 Bench Scoring 17 10 Field Goals 23/75 40/70 Field Goal % .307 .571 3 Point FG 6/28 6/14 3 Point % .214 .429 Free Throws 11/14 13/14 Free Throw % .786 .929 Rebounds 20 51 Off. Rebounds 2 10 Def. Rebounds 18 41 Blocks 0 10 Steals 21 19 Assists 14 28 Turnovers 22 32 Fouls 16 13

Code: Select all: Entire Game Detroit Dallas Points 88 109 Bench Scoring 43 22 Field Goals 38/92 39/83 Field Goal % .413 .470 3 Point FG 5/22 5/13 3 Point % .227 .385 Free Throws 7/9 26/30 Free Throw % .778 .867 Rebounds 50 39 Off. Rebounds 14 4 Def. Rebounds 36 35 Blocks 6 4 Steals 5 17 Assists 21 19 Turnovers 27 13 Fouls 28 15

I was San Antonio and Detroit. The steals are high, but these were before DK released the new steal tweak, so maybe that will fix that problem. I just absolutely demolished Phoenix, nothing else I can say about that game. The second game was very close, back and forth with Dallas pulling away with their fast break. Now, I don't mind them running every play, cause they really do. Michael Finley hit for 50 Points, a lot off of the break. Dallas is hard to stop. Rebounds are always going to be a little lopsided, I don't see a way to fix it. Blocks are good. Fouls/Free Throws are a little uneven too.

Now, I have to try the new steals tweak to see if that lowers the steals dramatically.

by DK on Sat Nov 30, 2002 7:33 am

I just downloaded the roster to check and the file is NOT corrupt.
It must have been your ISP or something.

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