T-Wolves

[T-wolves]

After losing yet another game this time to the Raptors I dont know where the wolves can go from here. The wolves shot 54% or something and still managed to lose. Mike James and Claxton have put up like 27 against the wolves in consecutive games. Garnett has posted 4 straight 18+ rebound games which is about = to half the teams rebound total. Jaric and Hudson are injured and Griffen is out of the rotation for some reason. Banks has shown good signs I think he would be a good backup PG. I also think the starting lineup including Madsen and Carter isnt working. I am thinking a trade for a big man is the way to go but we also need a good PG. Would like to hear some opinions.

[Mentally Hilarious]

Well you do have Mark Bl(o)unt.

Hihi. Hoho.

And we don't.

Which is nothing short of a blessing.

[Riot]

The team is just struggling to gut games out. They were the better team in the New Orleans game but Speedy Claxton and Kirk Snyder made the plays to win the game. Against Toronto, Mike James made the plays to win the game. It's tough right now but the team can turn this around and make the playoffs. They just need to come together and get a great effort every night for 48 minutes.

Garnett is having a great season, probably one of his best. The last two games he has had 19 points, 21 rebounds and 23 points, 19 rebounds. That is 21ppg and 20rpg over the last two games for him. He dominated the match-up against Chris Bosh.

Garnett knows that this is a team that is rebuilding/retooling and he said he is willing to wait it out. He wants this team to stick together and learn each other's tendencies so they can become closer on and off the court.

The team seems to struggle when the ball stops on the offense. Ricky Davis is a great player but he needs to kick the ball around a little bit. I love his post up game but he really needs to learn when he look for his shot and when to look for his teammates.

Some could say Marcus Banks was the best player the Timberwolves got in the trade with Boston. He has played great in his short time here in Minnesota and a lot of Wolves fans want Casey to start him. I wouldn't be upset with him starting, but I don't mind the Anthony Carter starting experiment, either. The only problem is he can't make a shot if his life depended on it and that hurts the offense in the long run.

So yeah, I have to head out the door now for school but that is my take on MY Timberwolves. It should be a great game tonight against division rival Seattle Sonics. The team needs to get a victory here so they can go into the all-star break with confidence.

[air2k5]

I will not be surprized is KG has a heart attack... He loves the game and he wants his team to win, he is getting double double almoust every game. If T-wolves want to be good they will have to let go of KG, they simply can't be good. They do not have a good PG, nor do they have a good bench. They can get an awesome trade for KG, maybe 1 good PG and 1 good Center,.

[Riot]

Trading Garnett would send this franchise back about 10 steps.

[air2k5]

Trading Garnett would send this franchise back about 10 steps.

not really, KG is a superstar they can get some more then decent players for him.

[mark_30_112]

That's way out of line and just stupidity.

Why would you trade your best player and one of the best players in the game.

I think they'll make a big improvement next year.

[air2k5]

That's way out of line and just stupidity.

Why would you trade your best player and one of the best players in the game.

I think they'll make a big improvement next year.

Why? Because you can make a great trade. Lot's of teams want KG, plus they will make you a nice offer. Min can get decent starting lineup then.

[Riot]

Like I said, trading Garnett would be the worse thing this franchise could do. I'll tell you why.

1. Garnett does everything on the court. He is one of the best defensive big men in the game, he can stretch the floor with his sweet stroke, he has the best footwork in the league in the post, great post moves, one of the best passers in the league, can handle the ball and he is the best rebounder in the league. So you make a trade you'll have to get all that back + more to make it worth while. He brings more to the table than 3 average players combined.

2. He means too much to the state of Minnesota. If he was to be traded Minnesotans would flip out of at the Timberwolves franchise. The attendance right now it low and if you traded Garnett it would be even worse. There might not be a team in Minnesota if the team deals Garnett.

But overall, you will not get equal value for Garnett. He is one of the best players of all time, why deal him so you can get a "starting five"? Why not just get a starting five in the off-season? They have the MLE to work and a trade exception they got in the Boston trade. Plus, Garnett has carried teams that aren't filled with much talent to the postseason before. You don't have to have a star studded lineup to get into the postseason with Garnett.

Simply put, it's a lot easier to re-tool around Garnett than it is to re-build without him. We have one of the best players of all time in his prime, why in the world would you willingly want to deal that? What do you think they could get in return? Okur and Boozer for him? No team is going to give up enough so there is no point in dealing him. He is a Timberwolf for life and that is how Garnett, Taylor and Minnesota wants it.

[air2k5]

Well you ar esomewhat right, but why not get 2-3 rising talents forn him? It is his 10th year, not very often players increase their talent after they reach their 10th.

[Num33Baller]

Well you ar esomewhat right, but why not get 2-3 rising talents forn him? It is his 10th year, not very often players increase their talent after they reach their 10th.

He came out of highschool dude.

Its really like hes in his 6th year.

[Riot]

Well you ar esomewhat right, but why not get 2-3 rising talents forn him? It is his 10th year, not very often players increase their talent after they reach their 10th.

Name a team that has 2-3 "rising talents" that would give you a better chance of winning than Kevin Garnett. Now, think for a second if that team would give those 2-3 "rising talents" to acquire Garnett. The chances are slim that the two sides agree on anything.

And I don't see the Pistons giving up Chauncey, Big Ben and Sheed anytime soon.

[Cable]

Now Riot has his own thread. Way to go guys

[Drex]

He already has threads. The political ones.

[Riot]

Now Riot has his own thread. Way to go guys

You guys are haters.

[dada]

Whether it be related to basketball or politics, I dont mind reading Riot's rantings.

[Andrew]

I still don't get this notion that superstars must be traded if they haven't won a championship by their x-th year in the league. Most great players have a fairly long shelf life. I suppose the main difference these days is that those players also have huge contracts which restrict free agency but still, the top players generally remain effective for a long term, their prime seems to last longer because they're at such a high level.

And as the Pacers demonstrated with Reggie Miller, it's possible to have a transitional "changing of the guard" phase without losing steam which is another option if a great player has plans on having a long career and wants to remain in town. It is possible to re-tool without blowing everything up and rebuilding. But KG's not even near that stage of his career yet so that isn't an option that will present itself for a while.

As Riot said, you're not going to get equal value for him. Throughout NBA history, there's been a group of players in each era that just can't be traded for a fair or equal return. Even if you were to trade Kobe Bryant for Tracy McGrady, KG for Tim Duncan or any other kind of fairly even looking superstar-for-superstar swap, it doesn't necessarily work out.

[Nel]

I agree on what charles barkley said on the tnt pregame show that minnesota should trade garnett if they won't put the right pieces around him. He's too good of a player to not have a shot in the finals. I thought when they traded with the celtics it was peirce they're getting but instead it was davis. Buckets is a good player but man if it was the truth being paired with kg it would be sick! KG needs a swingman that can be the go-to-guy and relieve him on offense. He has carried this team so much and i think its about time the mgt repay him. I like garnett and want to see him to win a championship but i don't think though that's in minnesota.

[Riot]

Well, the rumors here in Minnesota is McHale is trying to get Steve Francis or Stephon Marbury. At this point, I wouldn't mind either of them. We need to do something.

[Andrew]

I'd take Marbury out of those two. What a pair he and KG might have made had he stuck around.

[Dan's Brain]

How would you get them? Ricky Davis and other things i guess.

[Riot]

How would you get them? Ricky Davis and other things i guess.

Nope, Marko Jaric + Rashad McCants + $4.5 million trade exception, probably.

[Dan's Brain]

I dont know if anything will happen by the deadline. Might be better to wait until the offseason, give McCants more of a run in the second half of the year, then u can have a more intelligent judgement of his abilities. Also, it might increase his value.

[Riot]

The Timberwolves are desperate right now and they'll do anything. At the same time, I'm not sure if the team would take Marbury back. Owner Glen Taylor has a sour taste in his mouth after the way Marbury left earlier in his career.

[Immali]

I agree with Riot about the importance of KG for the wolves organization....but i don't really think it's possible for them to build a champ team in a couple of years.
You'll never get a KG-like player in return, but you must give a guy like him a real chance of playing for the ring.
KG is the player i like most in the NBA with T-Mac. I'd love to see those two playing together. In my mind i dream of a KG-Yao trade so that houston can play for the title now and the wolves can re-build around, let's say...yao, ricky davis, luther head (?).... i know i'm dreaming, but i just needed to say this...
All the best to KG!!!!!