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Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:01 pm
What players do you think are good "D" players.
A few coaches say "A good defence will lead to a great offence"
????
Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:07 pm
Lets see...
Zo, Shawn Marion, Tayshaun Prince, Kirilenko, Ben Wallace, Bowen and D Wade...
that's all that I can think of right now
Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:22 pm
Dwyane Wade is a good defensive player? When did that happen?
Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:23 pm
Shawn Marion is the best example this season IMO.
Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:12 pm
Tayshaun, Bruce Bowen, Kobe, Zo, AK47, Ben, Ron (if he ever plays again)
Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:32 pm
Axel wrote:Lets see...
Zo, Shawn Marion, Tayshaun Prince, Kirilenko, Ben Wallace, Bowen and D Wade...
that's all that I can think of right now

D Wade = Ricky Davis on D
Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:28 am
Trenton Hassel for DPOY.
Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:59 am
shane battier, rasheed wallace, pietrus
Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:01 am
Battier, A.I., and Shaq (even though I hate him)
Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:10 am
i hope by AI you mean Iggy. lol @ Shaq...no way, he's a liability out there.
Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:42 am
Shawn Marion, no doubts there: he's the best defensive player in the league right now.
Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:25 am
i forgot to add Udonis Haslem...i wish Pistons had him.
Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:27 am
I hate Alonzo but I have to respect his D. You cant step with that baby shit with that guy around. Granted he was posterized by Carter really bad, he still brings fear to opposing players driving the lane.
Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:35 am
problem is he tries to block EVERYTHING which means he gets faked out too easy and when he leaves his man for the block he's giving his opponent a chance at an offensive rebound.
Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:42 am
You know, if Miami hadn't gone after Willams, Walker and Posey, they would have had an excellent Riley-ish core of defenders. You would still have Mourning patroling off the bench, but Eddie Jones would be an upgrade over anything they have right on (perimeter) D, plus they could start Payton and resign/bring Damon Jones off the bench.
Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:57 am
Jones left because he wanted to start somewhere/wanted cash.
Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:05 am
No, he signed with Cavs because Miami believed they no longer need him and they would rather preserve money for Finley or other FAs.
Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:22 am
i forgot to add Udonis Haslem...i wish Pistons had him.
Haslem? He tries and all, but he's undersized, doesn't really have long arms, isn't really that strong, and is not a shot blocker. His defense isn't anything special.
D Wade = Ricky Davis on D
Wade is a better defender than Davis. Wade is a better help than man to man defender. He's a very good help defender, and an above average man to man defender.
Perimeter
Andrei Kirilenko
Shane Battier
Ron Artest
Tayshaun Prince
Gerald Wallace
Earl Watson
Bruce Bowen
Trenton Hassell
Kobe Bryant [when he wants to]
Some others
Interior
Tim Duncan
Alonzo Mourning
Ben Wallace
Kevin Garnett
Marcus Camby
Rasheed Wallace
Shawn Marion
blah blah blah...
Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:58 am
Trenton Hassell, Greg Buckner, Adrian Griffin, Kevin Garnett, Eddie Griffin and an underrated defender is Fred Hoiberg.
Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:48 am
VanK wrote:Dwyane Wade is a good defensive player? When did that happen?
Since he made the all defensive second team last year.
Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:21 pm
A lot of players from the Pistons and Spurs, umm... Zo (mad shot blocker), and ummm can't thinl of any at this time.
Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:30 pm
Zo, Garnett, Duncan, Hassel, AI2, Kirilenko, Bowen, Artest. Just a few names.
Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:32 pm
big ben, zo, marion, camby
kobe when he tries, ak, bowen, prince, ron, igoudala, hassel
Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:39 pm
VanK wrote:You know, if Miami hadn't gone after Willams, Walker and Posey, they would have had an excellent Riley-ish core of defenders. You would still have Mourning patroling off the bench, but Eddie Jones would be an upgrade over anything they have right on (perimeter) D, plus they could start Payton and resign/bring Damon Jones off the bench.
I feel Miami would be much better if the Shaq deal didnt happen. They had a young promising team with the right attitude (worked hard on both ends). The second the trade happened and I saw them play I was no longer a Heat fan. All I saw were cocky players out there walking with this untouchable swagger as if Shaq was a messiah. This was a far cry from the team that scraped and scratched their way into the playoffs the previous year. If they stayed together then all that would have happened was the team would get even more cohesive, both on offense and defence, and D-Wade would have still developed into a strong player. I hate Wade's attitude now. Recently I watched a game and saw him on the brink of throwing the ball at the ref even though it was the correct call. The old Wade would have jus chillaxed and make sure he did it right the next play.
Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:50 pm
Axel wrote:VanK wrote:Dwyane Wade is a good defensive player? When did that happen?
Since he made the all defensive second team last year.
By this I can say Bryant is one of the best, if not the best denfensive player in this league given the fact that he was once in the first team. which I surely won't say these days.
Wade is simply quick enough to get steals and jumps high enough to block from behind playing help D. And that's all.
He has good statsline but cant really shut down anyone.
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