But lets see how your expert logic is.
1.) The players took a vote, they had 3 choices. Option 1- Bring Ron Back. Option 2- No opinion either way. Option 3- KEEP HIM AWAY. Every single player voted 3. You want to bring back a guy NOBODY ON THE TEAM WANTS THERE??
Where did you pull that one from? This is the first I've heard of this, and I just googled it to see if there was such a vote. Nothing came back. If this is the case, the Pacers should trade him immediately, especially if the players you mentioned are available. But I doubt they are. Why would the clippers give up maggette? Who else would atlanta have to give up (or golden state) to make sure Indiana gets both Pietrus and Harrington?
And considering Donnie Walsh already tried to get Harrington from atlanta and was barred, you would think he would jump at the opportunity.
2.) Even if he was brought back, there is no way Rick could play him. After you publicly disrespect a coach like that to the media, and that coaches name is Rick Carlisle, you can forget ever playing for him ever again.
Do you even follow the Pacers? Rick Carlisle is one of the more forgiving and understanding coaches I have ever seen. And how did he disrespect him? Compare that to how other coaches talk about their players (Jackson about Kobe, Larry Brown to any of his players, Scott Skiles to ny high profile player on the bulls not named hinrich). What Artest said was so overblown its not even funny.
3.) Jermaine O'Neal's comments. If I have to choose between Ron and Jermaine, I'm choosing Jermaine without a doubt. Jermaine strongly came out and said its him or me, and you definitley don't bring Ron back when doing so means Jermaine will demand a trade. How stupid is that?
I have nothing but respect for Jermaine O'neal, I even said he was a better leader than KG. But you do not say "choose between him or me", whether you are talking to a girlfriend, a best friend, a parent, or the media. You just dont force people into choosing between others. It's selfish and its stupid. Let them decide for themselves... and wait, hold on; Jermaine O'neal betrayed Ron Artest! He went to the media!! omg!!
He would have done something again to fuck us up again. As much as I wanted to believe it during the offseason, we weren't contenders with Artest.
You have got to be kidding. With Artest in 2004 the Pacers were the best team until the pistons stole rasheed from atlanta. in 2005, without Artest, how did they go exactly? They choked away a chance to win the series in game 6 against the celtics before recovering to beat the worst 3 seed in the history of the nba since they adopted the 16 team format. Then they got steamrolled by detroit after going up 2-1. Remember the same season, they absolutely dominated the pistons in the brawl game, and i have no doubts in my mind they would have done the same in the playoffs had they had him.
He is not a winner
Neither was Charles Barkley, but you didnt see teams flat out deactivating him.
One finals apperance in our NBA history? That's right, we played during the Jordan days, and if we didn't Reggie would have at least 1 ring.
Oh cry me a river. They played in 94 and 95 when Jordan wasn't around and they couldnt get the job done. In 99 they choked against the Knicks and after the trip to the finals they decided to rebuild. The only good thing they really did was trade for Jermaine O'neal. The Antonio Davis deal was terrible. The Jalen Rose deal was ok until they wasted Artest's talents. The Brad Miller sign and trade was bad. The Austin Croshere extension was horrible. The Jackson trade was OK. Yeah props to Donnie Walsh
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The Bottom line is, the Pacers are hurting themselves the longer they keep it going. A low playoff seed is too hard to overcome, just ask the 2003 lakers. They need to get some positivie momentum, and the longer they take, the more and more they hurt their franchise and its fans. Just open your eyes to it and stop blaming one guy for all your franchise fuck ups.
You choose what I have to do if the deal doesn't get done.
