havasufalls, you could not be more wrong about Pippen. you make it sound like he was Rick Fox on the Laker championship teams.
I believe Jordan would of still won titles without him just for the simple fact that he was just that damn good plus he has that determination to win and nothing else will sufice. J
MJ had that determination before the addition and devolpment of Pippen, and how far did the bulls get then? It was Pippen (and grants devlopment) that took the bulls from a team on the verge to a dynasty. Now im not (and wouldnt) say that Jordan wasnt the foundation of the bulls dominance, but Pippen was the sidekick to Jordan. You look at the problems Kobe is going through in LA. Pippen was the guy in chicago that made sure MJ didnt have to do it all by himself. He brought the ball up, played outstanding defense, shot well in transition, was able to post up, rebound and play great help defense. He was their point guard and allowed Mike to focus just on scoring. Without Pippen, The bulls would have won maybe 2 championships (93 and 98, just on speculation and my own opinion).
Jordan made Pippen in my mind as he made that entire bulls team.
After the break up they all went their seperate ways and look wat happened
Well you can say the same for Jordan. He really didnt accomplish much in washington did he? Becuase he was aging and well and truely past his prime. He was still good (same as Pippen was still good in portland), but if you hold jordan to the same standard you are holding pippen, surely you will admit Jordan didnt get anything done without pippen after the 98 breakup.
Pippen went to houston and portland to do jus about nothing. He didnt do much in portland cause anything they did they could of did without him cause they were talented. I wont say pippen lacked the will to win more like he lacked the will to not except losing as an option
Pippen changed the outlook of that entire blazers team. Think back to the conference finals against the lakers when they came back from 3-1 down to not only tie the series, but to be one quarter away from the championship (no disrespect to indiana that year, but portland would have demolished them in the finals). And you say Pippen just accepted losing? Well I guess Jordan did too, becuase the wizards didnt make the playoffs. See how flawed that way of thinking is?
Harper didnt do much at all with LA
Yeah 2 more rings with LA isnt much at all.
Luc went to NY and was horrible
Longley's always been terrible
Im sorry but wen i watch games jus as game 5 of the finals wen Jordan was sick and scores all the points for the bulls in the begining sits down and u watch pip and the rest of them jus stick up the floor jus for jordan to have to come back in to save them jus really shows how jordan made them.
But thats Jordans role on the team, to score. With the exception of Kukoc, the Bulls didnt have one goto scorer. Pippen was a playmaker with the ball in his hands, like Jason Kidd almost. Kidd doesnt have to score 35 points to be effective, and the same goes for pippen.
What if he'd gone to Seattle and played with Kemp and Payton?
In the trade for Pippen, the bulls sent a furture first round draft pick which the sonics used on kemp. So a trio of Kemp, payton and pippen wasnt possible.