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I love Tony and all, but how much better would Duncan be if.

Postby aldrin on Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:57 pm

He had a true PG, not a shooting PG. I'm talking about a Ridnour, Kidd, Nash, Stockton, even Brevin Knight. Despite the fact that I like Parker better than any of these players, Duncan might be better off.

In no way do I want a trade or any shit like that--- this is more of just a "what if" thing.

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Postby [L3]1101 on Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:42 pm

now that's a little selfish :wink:

Because Duncan is already getting his 20ppg 10rpg, so why want more? Giving Parker the chance to score give the Spurs another weapon, more dynamic. If Duncan was scoring less than maybe Parker need to dish a little more, but for now i think the Spurs are doing pretty good.
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Postby Emiliano on Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:35 pm

We don't need Duncan to get the ball ALL the time. Parker fits in with his style of play perfectly. Duncan will still get his points and his touches. Parker can score in many ways as well as pass the ball.
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Postby Colin on Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:59 pm

The big thing is the match-up problems Parker creates. Him and Ginobili allow Duncan to roam without as many double-teams.
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Postby Matt on Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:09 pm

too bad Parker is inconsistent and gets abused (more like raped) in the playoffs by opposing guards.
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Postby Andrew on Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:26 pm

I suppose his stats might look better (though they're hardly awful as they are) but would he really be better off? The fact that this team has won two of the last three NBA championships, seems to be in position to make another run this year and works very well as a unit would suggest Duncan needn't really be better off with a different point guard.
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Postby Matt on Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:07 am

I say the Spurs overall would be better off with a defensive, pass first, hit the open shot player. What has Parker done for the Spurs lately except faded in the playoffs????
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Postby Indy on Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:45 am

Tony Parker is one reason why I think the Pacers can beat the Spurs in a 7 game series. Tinsley can penatrate the lane at will against Parker, and when Tinsley plays point guards like that, the Pacers usually win. In fact, when Tinsley gets over 7 assists the Pacers almost always win. I think Tony Parker is one of the most overrated players in the league.
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Postby cklitsie on Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:54 am

Indy wrote:I think Tony Parker is one of the most overrated players in the league.
Good call, I agree.
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Postby maes on Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:15 am

I dunno, would Shaq be better off if Wade was a good longe range shooter & didn't drive at all? Isn't that just Damon Jones?

And Timmy's #s aren't dwindling, in fact the opposite is happening. Parker's aggressiveness at attacking the other team's basket has resulted in Timmy scoring more than he did last year (21.7 ppg vs 20.3) and he's scoring MUCH easier (53%FG vs 49%FG). All his other stats are slightly up, his rebounds, his assists, his FT shooting (althought that might because he's actually hitting at a good rate), his blocks are up as well.

If Parker & Ginobli settled into just kick-out jump shooters and saved all their energy for defense, the Spurs would essentially have 3 Bowens and it would like LeBron without Hughes, like Shaq without Wade, like Kobe without...oh wait he still has nobody.

I think the current trend of more Parker on offense is because of two things that won't last, 1) resting Duncan for end of season & playoffs 2) Parker is scoring at a freakish 56%.
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Postby D_up on Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:58 am

With say Jason Kidd or Steven Nash sure Duncan's job would be a lot easier and hey maybe his numbers would even increase...

*BUT* what I have to give about the Spurs and their players is that it has never been about the numbers. Meaning... Duncan's numbers don't need to increase he's a solid all around player who does a lot of his scoring when the game is on the line and/or he needs to help his team fend off a furious rally.

Duncan understands that his role doesn't require him to score 30 a game so unlike say Allen Iverson he is not going to go out there and try to do that.
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Postby Riot on Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:38 am

The real question is would Kevin Garnett be better if he had a point guard like Tony Parker. :lol:
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Postby air gordon on Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:33 am

no the real question is how good/bad would parker be if he wasn't playing with tim duncan
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Postby Riot on Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:53 am

Well, Kevin Garnett made Rasho Nesterovic servicable and look decent. Tim Duncan has made Rasho look like a fool and he barely gets playing time anymore. I guess KG makes his teammates better. :P
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Postby fgrep15 on Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:17 pm

They're winning championships, who really cares?

Really though, while Parker is not a true PG, he's a little better passer than his numbers show, more of a 6 APG guy I'd say. Even with that, the team would likely improve a lot with a pass first PG, or even a guy like Billups with his outisde shooting, underatted passing [LB's system], defense [fairly good], and clutch shooting ability.
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Postby air gordon on Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:32 pm

maybe the real question is whether riot can make a reply in nba talk without mentioning something to do with the twolves :lame:
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Postby J@3 on Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:35 pm

air gordon wrote:maybe the real question is whether riot can make a reply in nba talk without mentioning something to do with the twolves :lame:


Lol I think we all know the answer to that.
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Postby Riot on Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:53 pm

air gordon wrote:maybe the real question is whether riot can make a reply in nba talk without mentioning something to do with the twolves :lame:


Eat it. :P
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Postby Jing on Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:42 pm

Riot wrote:
air gordon wrote:maybe the real question is whether riot can make a reply in nba talk without mentioning something to do with the twolves :lame:


Eat it. :P


lol got 'em
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Postby Bruce on Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:49 pm

duncan won his first championship when avery johnson was still the starting pg for the spurs... and avery in a classic type (pass first) pg... and duncan's stats has been consistent throughout his nba career...

so that should answer the question of the thread starter...
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Postby air gordon on Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:41 pm

Riot wrote:
air gordon wrote:maybe the real question is whether riot can make a reply in nba talk without mentioning something to do with the twolves :lame:


Eat it. :P

congrats, you managed once out of hundreds of replies not to :crazy:
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Postby kinokong on Sat Dec 03, 2005 3:13 pm

lol.... :D

i wanna see what would have happened if jason kidd had come over to the spurs and the nets had parker...
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Postby dada on Sat Dec 03, 2005 3:16 pm

I dont think it would make much of a difference which pg was there cuz Duncan is such an unselfish player. It's not like he doesnt get the ball when he needs to get it.
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Postby NY Knicks on Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:37 am

they pretty much got the chemistry and team put together if Parker got traded I dont think Ginobli or Dincan would be happy.
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