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Postby Malfa on Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:10 pm

Umm..if he goes to houston Yao and Mcgrady won't be there.
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Postby BOSS on Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:11 pm

ntong wrote:
Pross wrote:1. Heaps of players are close friends around the league..doesnt mean they go get traded to the same team.. lots of NBA players work out in the off-season with friends from other teams..its nothing new
2. maybe he likes LA? so because he bought a house in LA instead of Texas he's getting traded to the lakers? Wow your stupidity is at an astounding level
3. Heaps of players and of course GM's go to SL games. I'm sure there were plenty of other GM's from around the league at that SL game aswell.

Your arguments are weak and pathetic. It I feel bad that you would believe all this hype! your life must amusing.

P.S It's the Wolves! WOLFS is not a word :shock:

KG wants to be traded, because he wants to win, that guy is almost 30 years old, and he was the first player straight to NBA from high school, nobody knows how much longer he can play,, if he stays in Wolves(thanks for the correction), he's gonna wait years before he wins a ring, Wolves let Sam and Spree walk, and did not get any help for KG, so KG has to be upset, really upset. Also like I said, the only way to win over Spurs, Heat, Pacers, is to team with Kobe, that makes him a final contender right away? isn't that correct?
Lakers, Bulls, Wolves are the only few teams that did not make any big move yet, so there may be a 3 team deal like I just mentioned, why you call that a weak argument?


Because what does moving to LA have to do. Like I said alot of Athletes moved around the globe. If I had that kinda money I would too. Also Kobe and KG worked out together because they were buddies. Can't friends hang out ? Like Pross said a few players and gms go watch games so what are the chances of meeting mitch richmond. Yes maybe he wants a ring but he'll be staying put.
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Postby ntong on Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:13 pm

Amphatoast wrote:If he wants to win he goes to Houston
Yao
KG
McGrady

Or Miami for Walker and a few others

basically saying he wants to go to LA to win is a invalid argument. Kobe has yet to prove that he can work with a star player without a problem. Shaq and him had ego problems, Odom and Kobe isn't working out yet so far.


What about those 3 rings he won with Shaq? Kobe learned his lesson from last season, plus KG and him are close friends, KG is not as cocky as Shaq, so they will work out fine, that should not even be a problem.
Kobe didnt have much time to play with LO, Kobe was injuried, when he came back, LO got injuried...
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Postby ntong on Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:23 pm

Initial D wrote:
ntong wrote:
Pross wrote:1. Heaps of players are close friends around the league..doesnt mean they go get traded to the same team.. lots of NBA players work out in the off-season with friends from other teams..its nothing new
2. maybe he likes LA? so because he bought a house in LA instead of Texas he's getting traded to the lakers? Wow your stupidity is at an astounding level
3. Heaps of players and of course GM's go to SL games. I'm sure there were plenty of other GM's from around the league at that SL game aswell.

Your arguments are weak and pathetic. It I feel bad that you would believe all this hype! your life must amusing.

P.S It's the Wolves! WOLFS is not a word :shock:

KG wants to be traded, because he wants to win, that guy is almost 30 years old, and he was the first player straight to NBA from high school, nobody knows how much longer he can play,, if he stays in Wolves(thanks for the correction), he's gonna wait years before he wins a ring, Wolves let Sam and Spree walk, and did not get any help for KG, so KG has to be upset, really upset. Also like I said, the only way to win over Spurs, Heat, Pacers, is to team with Kobe, that makes him a final contender right away? isn't that correct?
Lakers, Bulls, Wolves are the only few teams that did not make any big move yet, so there may be a 3 team deal like I just mentioned, why you call that a weak argument?


Because what does moving to LA have to do. Like I said alot of Athletes moved around the globe. If I had that kinda money I would too. Also Kobe and KG worked out together because they were buddies. Can't friends hang out ? Like Pross said a few players and gms go watch games so what are the chances of meeting mitch richmond. Yes maybe he wants a ring but he'll be staying put.

I am just making connections, why are you being so picky about the house thing, the SL game thing , I guess everything else I said makes sense to you all, you just hate Lakers too much to believe Lakers will be contenders this upcoming season.
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Postby [L3]1101 on Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:27 pm

What about those 3 rings he won with Shaq? Kobe learned his lesson from last season, plus KG and him are close friends, KG is not as cocky as Shaq, so they will work out fine, that should not even be a problem.
Kobe didnt have much time to play with LO, Kobe was injuried, when he came back, LO got injuried...


KG is not as cocky as Shaq??? ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE FEUD BETWEEN SHAQ AND KOBE WAS SHAQ'S FAULT?? i would say it's the opposite. Kobe's the cocky one. Without a good point guard or a center, the Lakers are not going anywhere. I think that Lamar Odom is better off somewhere else where he can get the ball, but this isn't a good trade for the lakers. They are losing too much. Besides, the salary doens't even work out. KG and Wally together has about 30 million while Odom is less than 15 Mil. Even with Mihm's and Vlade's contract, it doesn't work out. Besides, doesn't KG have a no trade clause? I'm not sure.
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Postby cklitsie on Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:32 pm

ntong please stop (double) posting. :|
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Postby ntong on Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:33 pm

[L3]1101 wrote:
What about those 3 rings he won with Shaq? Kobe learned his lesson from last season, plus KG and him are close friends, KG is not as cocky as Shaq, so they will work out fine, that should not even be a problem.
Kobe didnt have much time to play with LO, Kobe was injuried, when he came back, LO got injuried...


They are losing too much. Besides, the salary doens't even work out. KG and Wally together has about 30 million while Odom is less than 15 Mil. Even with Mihm's and Vlade's contract, it doesn't work out. Besides, doesn't KG have a no trade clause? I'm not sure.


George, future 1st rounder(s), works out just fine... you can go check,
no trade clasue means team cant trade you unless you agreed to be traded, samething kobe has.
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Postby Impose on Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:48 pm

Why has there been this much debate about something that is dramatized speculation from a sports writer with nothing to write about....
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Postby BOSS on Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:10 pm

ntong wrote:
Initial D wrote:
ntong wrote:
Pross wrote:1. Heaps of players are close friends around the league..doesnt mean they go get traded to the same team.. lots of NBA players work out in the off-season with friends from other teams..its nothing new
2. maybe he likes LA? so because he bought a house in LA instead of Texas he's getting traded to the lakers? Wow your stupidity is at an astounding level
3. Heaps of players and of course GM's go to SL games. I'm sure there were plenty of other GM's from around the league at that SL game aswell.

Your arguments are weak and pathetic. It I feel bad that you would believe all this hype! your life must amusing.

P.S It's the Wolves! WOLFS is not a word :shock:

KG wants to be traded, because he wants to win, that guy is almost 30 years old, and he was the first player straight to NBA from high school, nobody knows how much longer he can play,, if he stays in Wolves(thanks for the correction), he's gonna wait years before he wins a ring, Wolves let Sam and Spree walk, and did not get any help for KG, so KG has to be upset, really upset. Also like I said, the only way to win over Spurs, Heat, Pacers, is to team with Kobe, that makes him a final contender right away? isn't that correct?
Lakers, Bulls, Wolves are the only few teams that did not make any big move yet, so there may be a 3 team deal like I just mentioned, why you call that a weak argument?


Because what does moving to LA have to do. Like I said alot of Athletes moved around the globe. If I had that kinda money I would too. Also Kobe and KG worked out together because they were buddies. Can't friends hang out ? Like Pross said a few players and gms go watch games so what are the chances of meeting mitch richmond. Yes maybe he wants a ring but he'll be staying put.

I am just making connections, why are you being so picky about the house thing, the SL game thing , I guess everything else I said makes sense to you all, you just hate Lakers too much to believe Lakers will be contenders this upcoming season.


Naaah. Actually I am a fan of them. Im just trying to state that it aint gonna happen.
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Postby Andrew on Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:29 pm

The Lakers have nothing worth giving up for KG by himself, let alone a second key player like Wally World. Forget matching salaries for a moment; there's just no way the Timberwolves would trade KG unless it was a blockbuster deal with a superstar coming in return. Add that to the fact that there haven't been any rumblings about KG demanding a trade as well as the fact he has no leverage since he recently signed a long extension and a trade to LA really seems unlikely.

And I don't think Mihm and Odom fit the Bulls' plans, so I'd rather that deal didn't go through. Has anything from HoopsWorld ever come to fruition? It's really sloppy rumours reporting to not even mention names and possible scenarios. Any of us could write up a report like that and toss out all kinds of bizarre rumours. (Yes, I know. Now that I've said that, something will happen.)

you just hate Lakers too much to believe Lakers will be contenders this upcoming season.


Contenders for the championship? I suppose anything's possible, but it sounds like you love the Lakers too much to accept that there are quite a few teams in the West that are better on paper and have a better outlook.

This whole "haters" thing has really become tiresome. :?
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Postby Fresh8 on Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:06 pm

Man, KG rumours... just stop it cause it aint happening. KG is Minny's franchsie man and even though, the situation there aint thjat great, I doubt he will be moving anywhere, at least for another year. No chance at all! And he won't go to LA... There's noone to trade for him. Except Kobe and Kobe can't go either.

Lamar Odom won't be leaving the Lakers because Jax is in love with him. I think LA is happy with the squad they have now because it was made public that they aren't expectin too much out of the team.
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Postby Riot on Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:21 pm

I was looking through the forums and when I saw this, I had to reply.

Why is Garnett not going to LA?

1. He has stated numerous times that he wants to end his career in Minnesota. "I'm Minnesotan" is one of the best quotes I've heard from him. :lol: But honestly, if Garnett was getting frustrated about not winning he wouldn't have signed a 5 year contract extension two years ago when we hadn't gotten out of the first round yet. Some people underestimate his loyalty to the club.

2. Garnett has a "two way no trade clause". Which basically means, even if Garnett demands a trade the Timberwolves have to lift their no trade clause as well. The likelyhood of that happening is close to impossible. Glen Taylor knows that the only reason why people buy tickets and buy Wolves merchandise is because of Garnett. If Taylor trades Garnett (who is a very good friend of his), he will lose out on ticket sales, merchandise sales and sponsers. He would lose millions and millions and he'd lose the best player in the world.

3. Garnett's wife loves it here in Minnesota. They have a nice home in Osceo and she wants to stay in Minnesota. I imagine Garnett as being henpecked, so I would assume he wouldn't do anything without her approval.

4. If the Wolves did trade Garnett, which is as likely as the Pacers trading Reggie Miller in his prime, they wouldn't deal him to a Western Conference team. That would be stupid and McHale would be shot on the spot.

All in all, these Garnett rumors make my head spin. Some people just make up rumors just so their name can get on the web or in the headlines. It's not going to happen. The season is too close to starting, the team as already had a mini camp WITH GARNETT THERE and Garnett has talked to everyone of his teammates telling them to come into camp in shape and ready to play. Sound like a guy who wants to leave Minnesota and lift his no trade clause? I don't think so.
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Postby Metsis on Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:38 pm

The Wolves did their move this summer... By trading Cassell and letting Spree go... Those two moves cleared the slate and probably will make for a good run at things in a year or two... The wolves have been building around KG for such a long time and they know they've got the best damn player in the league and they are not going to give him up...

Let's just put it this way... Wolves won't move KG to the lakers unless a guy named Bryant is given in return...

Bryant and KG on the same team... No good will come out of that. KG controls the ball and Kobe does so too... This is the same problem as it was with Kobe and Shaq and the same problem brewing in Miami at this very second. The egos and personalities stay in check as long as the wins keep on piling up, but when the shit hits the fan, no one will be too happy to see that! And that's when things start imploding... This is what happened in Minny last year... And also what ultimately destroyed the Shaq, Malone, Kobe, Payton thing too.

Wolves had a pair of old guys, who were injury prone manning the back court and it just didn't work. Also Wally isn't the most durable guy either. The Wolves will do fine if they can get healthier and thus getting rid of the old guys was a good move. They weren't going anywhere they haven't already been with KG, Spree and Cassell... So it was a time for a make over. Around KG!
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Postby noch on Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:31 pm

OR.....
LA trades Odom, Mihm, Vlade's Contract, Miami's pick and George
LA receives KG and Wally
Wolf trades KG, Wally
Wolf receives Curry, Vlade, George, Pike and Miami's first million
Bulls trades=Curry and Pike
Bulls receives Odom and Mihm


Vlade said he will retire and i dont think he should include on that rumours.
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Postby J@3 on Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:37 pm

They can still trade his contract.
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Postby Jan Shane on Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:57 pm

Didn't vlade ALREADY retire?
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Postby noch on Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:02 pm

I think yes since he is part of the coaching staffs in LA this year..Im just curious of whether he will hang his jersey to Sacramento or L.A or maybe Charlotte I dunno know.
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Postby ntong on Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:21 pm

Jan Shane wrote:Didn't vlade ALREADY retire?

No, he said he will retire, but Laker's spokeman denied that, looks like lakers are going to do something with his contract.

Either Curry or KG will be a Laker, paperwork has already sent to the league office, we will know that by the end of next week, I think they are still waiting for Curry's physical, and also, Profit is the player lakers got from the butler-Kwame trade, he won't be traded until Oct.1, which may also be a reason why Lakers havent made any move yet.

If lakers trade straight up with Wolves, it looks like Wolves are losing big, but if a third team is involved, Bulls, Wolves will not end up to badly, they can start their rebuild mode now by getting the ending contracts, and Curry, and in 3 or 4 years again when KG is older and slower, they will be back in the playoff again. Bulls get rid of Curry with somethone like Mihm in return, Lakers got the instant contender piece, every team gains.
Lakers are going to make something big to happen before the training camp start, both Buss will be dumb paying 10M a year to Phil for not making finals, Phil would be dumb also if he wants to take this roster and ruin his reputation.
2. Garnett has a "two way no trade clause". Which basically means, even if Garnett demands a trade the Timberwolves have to lift their no trade clause as well. The likelyhood of that happening is close to impossible. Glen Taylor knows that the only reason why people buy tickets and buy Wolves merchandise is because of Garnett. If Taylor trades Garnett (who is a very good friend of his), he will lose out on ticket sales, merchandise sales and sponsers. He would lose millions and millions and he'd lose the best player in the world.


That no trade clause means he cant be traded even if both the Wolves and him wants him to be traded? I do not think so, he's contract is same as Kobe's, both Kobe and the team must agree, that is all that means... It's true that KG is the one makes profit for Wolves, but Wolves will hardly even make the playoff with the lineup they have right now, and KG wants to win, Maybe McHale just wants to rebuild this team.

The Wolves did their move this summer... By trading Cassell and letting Spree go... Those two moves cleared the slate and probably will make for a good run at things in a year or two... The wolves have been building around KG for such a long time and they know they've got the best damn player in the league and they are not going to give him up...

You mean lose 2 players can actually make your team better? KG doesnt want to wait when he's 31, 32 to win a ring, he was the first one drafted out from high school, nobody knows how long high schoolers will last in NBA, KG is the first one. KG wants to win now
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Postby ntong on Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:23 pm

noch wrote:I think yes since he is part of the coaching staffs in LA this year..Im just curious of whether he will hang his jersey to Sacramento or L.A or maybe Charlotte I dunno know.


Why will he hang his jersey? It's not like he's Larry Bird or MJ
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Postby Flasher on Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:29 am

BS article.
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Postby Null17 on Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:38 am

ntong wrote:
noch wrote:I think yes since he is part of the coaching staffs in LA this year..Im just curious of whether he will hang his jersey to Sacramento or L.A or maybe Charlotte I dunno know.


Why will he hang his jersey? It's not like he's Larry Bird or MJ


Sean Elliot's jersey was hanged in San Antonio. He's nowhere near Jordan or Bird. It's not just about talent (not to take anything away from Vlade), It's how much you meant to the team. Seems to me that you're just a Kobe bandwagoner and not a real Lakers fan :roll:
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Postby ntong on Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:57 am

Null17 wrote:
ntong wrote:
noch wrote:I think yes since he is part of the coaching staffs in LA this year..Im just curious of whether he will hang his jersey to Sacramento or L.A or maybe Charlotte I dunno know.


Why will he hang his jersey? It's not like he's Larry Bird or MJ


Sean Elliot's jersey was hanged in San Antonio. He's nowhere near Jordan or Bird. It's not just about talent (not to take anything away from Vlade), It's how much you meant to the team. Seems to me that you're just a Kobe bandwagoner and not a real Lakers fan :roll:


What does it have anything to do with KG, Curry or even Vlade? How much does vlade mean to Lakers, he got Kobe, but he was at the Kings for a long time too, besides he didnt do much at all last season. Unless he got us KG, Lakers will not hang his jersey, so shouldnt any team.
If I am not a Lakers fan, why would I being so hype about lakers getting KG, or even Curry

seems to me you just a Ducan bandwagoner,
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Postby Fenix on Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:10 am

Slightly off topic: I read somewhere today that KG bulked up this summer and is up to 255 pounds. Plus, he'll play more like a PF this year. 7'1'', 255 and his combination of length&athleticism? Imagine if he starts pulling more offensive rebounds this year. 15+ rpg isn't out of the limits.
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Postby ntong on Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:21 am

I only said it is possible for lakers to get KG.
If wolves wants to build around KG, how come they didnt do anything besides dumping Spree ans Cam. One other thing, when KG agreed to have a paycut, the reason was Wolves would spend the money to build around KG, they did not do anything this summer. Why Spree hasnt signed to any team yet, remeber spree is trying to have a sign & trade deal with LA,, that just makes more sense if you put all those things I said together,,, it is possible that Lakers will land KG.
Sit wrote:Man, KG rumours... just stop it cause it aint happening. KG is Minny's franchsie man and even though, the situation there aint thjat great, I doubt he will be moving anywhere, at least for another year. No chance at all! And he won't go to LA... There's noone to trade for him. Except Kobe and Kobe can't go either.

Lamar Odom won't be leaving the Lakers because Jax is in love with him. I think LA is happy with the squad they have now because it was made public that they aren't expectin too much out of the team.



Phil also said Caron was a great player to have on the team, and Caron was so happy about playing for Phil,, where is he now?

The Lakers have nothing worth giving up for KG by himself, let alone a second key player like Wally World. Forget matching salaries for a moment; there's just no way the Timberwolves would trade KG unless it was a blockbuster deal with a superstar coming in return. Add that to the fact that there haven't been any rumblings about KG demanding a trade as well as the fact he has no leverage since he recently signed a long extension and a trade to LA really seems unlikely.

And I don't think Mihm and Odom fit the Bulls' plans, so I'd rather that deal didn't go through. Has anything from HoopsWorld ever come to fruition? It's really sloppy rumours reporting to not even mention names and possible scenarios. Any of us could write up a report like that and toss out all kinds of bizarre rumours. (Yes, I know. Now that I've said that, something will happen.)

I said, a 3 way deal should make all 3 teams happy. If wolves can trade KG for a superstar, they would already done so, why didnt they do anything? Teams like Nuggests, Kings, all can give up some good players for KG, but they already have all theirs pieces together, they donot want to redo what they already done just for KG. So, if KG is getting traded, it will be to LA.

Mihm goes to Bulls, not Odom, Mihm gives bulls the defense Scott wants, he can rebound, he can block shot from the weak side, and he plays great at home. Odom, George, Vlade, draft picks and even maybe Kwame goes to Wolves, wolves get young talents, cap space, they can rebuild, so why not just do it?
PS. Kwame can be traded after Oct 2nd[/b]
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Postby zmac on Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:20 am

No chance in the world that this will happen. Anyway, Divac has retired....
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