you know you're an overrated
star when:
1. you are compared to tyronne lue, darko milicic and brian shaw.
2. you are considered a great player and yet have never won a championship.
3. your fans defend you by saying you never had good teammates - classic blame it on everyone but me syndrome.
4. your fans desperately claw at air screaming: "but, but, if so and so hadnt been injured, if we had.....". uh huh, yeah, and if atlanta had traded for mj and hakeem in '93..... but, if, cry, cry, tear, tear, whine, whine...... b'bye. who cares.
5. you average big numbers, but your team doesnt do well.
Laughing how about playing with players who just want to pad their stats for a contract, while being on a team that has had injury problems the last 4 years? The Clippers managament never commiting to getting a strong bench and overall strong team that can cope through injuries. The Clippers being +.500 before injuries last season, and over .500 when their starting lineup started in 03-04. Brand can win, the Clippers just need to stay healhty, actually get a bench, and continue to promote a winning enviroment.
you could say the same thing about stephon marbury.... couldnt you? woulda, shoulda, coulda.... didnt. thats all that matters.
FUCK YOU YOU FUCKHEAD
for some reason this cracked me up....... sue me.
How exactly do you come to that conclusion? Apart from the awards the media votes on, all Duncan has on Malone are rings, which is important but it's too much of a team thing to base your entire opinion on it.
1. tim duncan has never had debatably the best point guard ever..... and has still had more success. in fact, tim duncan has never played with another hall of famer in his prime.
2. tim duncan runs a teams offense and defense. he is the anchor of the spurs on both ends. karl malone is admittedly a better scorer (though not neccessarily offensive focus), and i know its not his fault he aint 7 foot and cant be as effective as td there, but the fact remains he isnt. he's a decent on the ball post defender who resorts to swiping at the ball like a girl against better players. utah never won a championship because team defense wins championships, and team defense needs a post defender who can intimidate slashers.
3. championships, put duncan anywhere and you automatically have a clear cut system of how your team will play.... and win. im hard put to think of a player who single-handedly has so clearly defined the makeup of a championship contender team as he has.
garnett vs malone is debatable. i wont go there..... unless you want me to.
riot - i think we've already been through the garnett debate that i see coming...... we both know we're just gonna end up where we were..... again. so ill just leave it be
i do think a player as good as we all know he is shouldve been able to, yes, single-handedly force his team into the playoffs... even in the west. i think hes that good, and he dissapointed me. thus overrated.
yao is underrated. detroit and san antonio were 1 and 2 respectively in points per game allowed during the reg season. thats because detroit and san antonio have duncan and wallace. houston is third. thats because houston has yao.
You could turn around and say Duncan is overrated because of his choke job vs Pistons and the fact that his team never beat the Lakers in Shaq's prime, in fact they got wiped off the floor.
and you could say jordan is overrated because he never beat the lakers or celtics in their prime or even debatably detroit. and you can say hakeem is overrated cuz he never beat the bulls in their prime. and you can say shaq is overrated cuz he never beat hakeem in his prime. duncan choked? no one cares, cuz duncan won. even the greats choke..... remember magic? what defines the good from the great is that they come back and WIN. duncan didnt give up, and he kept fighting and he won. bottom line.
i dont agree, Most of those players weren't at their absolute tip-top potential best type thingy. His team sux, he doesn't. If you think that 20 and 10 sucks, then, you're an idiot.
the point is i DONT think that 20 and 10 sucks. i think 20 and 10 should be a foundation for any team to build at the very least a first round playoff team. he has had 6 years and never come close, lebron has had 1....... and are we willing to wager that he wont get in next year?
3. patrick ewing - a small forward in a centres body is not a good thing.
It can be a damn good thing thank you very much..
i would rather have a centre in a centres body.
Wow, so why is he over-rated cause he turns the ball over.....and they diddnt make the playoffs because of injurys and coaching troubles, rem they diddnt have a real coach a few weeks after the all star break.
hes made the playoffs with the rockets before......
steve francis over-rated is a dumb thing to say, under-rated if anything....
oh and I dont see why francis gets such a knock for the turnover thing....because AI does it about the same or more and so does kobe and d-wade, even lebron james and steve nash........
1. Allen Iverson (Philadelphia 76ers) 4.59
2. Dwyane Wade (Miami Heat) 4.17
3. Kobe Bryant (Los Angeles Lakers) 4.09
4. Steve Francis (Orlando Magic) 4.06
5. Antoine Walker (Boston Celtics) 3.29
6. LeBron James (Cleveland Cavaliers) 3.28
7. Steve Nash (Phoenix Suns) 3.27
turnovers happen, to people who control the ball the most on there team and francis has to do everything for his team basically without francis the magic would be in Bobcat satus or even Atlanta Hawk status......
hes under-rated
once. orlando would be better off if they were the bobcats or atlanta, at least theyd have high draft picks. they better hope dwight is great, or francis is leading them nowhere. give the ball to hill, he's a better point guard, even now. hell, why do you think they had to start jameer.
steve francis is a ball hog who makes bad decisions at the worse times. he tries to do too much.
allen iverson = playoffs
dwayne wade = playoffs
kobe bryant = overrated
antoine walker = uh huh
lebron james = 27 ppgs 7 rpg, 7 apg. your right he missed the playoffs, maybe hes the exception to the rule. at least for this one year. then again, he has better fg%, and if you watch a game, makes his teammates better.... something francis doesnt. francis forces, lebron flows.
steve nash = 12 apg. playoffs.
a player who i think is underrated is mike bibby, he makes the right pass, good decisions and can be clutch. but hes not an all star. any team would rather have bibby running the point than arenas or francis.
glad to be back, everyones a moderator now(!)..... it used to be you had to sleep with andrew to be one...... ha. still is.
On the bright side, he's still very young.
