Hatred is the superior feeling?

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Hatred is the superior feeling?

Postby Mentally Hilarious on Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:06 am

Ah, me and my philosophical ways at this time of night (back to back nightshifts without sleep inbetween makes my mind ...funky). But wisdomkids claim that he didn't hate anyone just sparked one thing in my mind.

How. Incredibly. Fucking. Dull.

Love is nice and all, so is happiness. And the sense of being at ease and whatnot. But to me, the most intriguing feeling is that of raw hate. Or anger, maybe hate is too strong on a "scale" since it can so easily be destructive only. But you get the jist of it.

It's the truly intense emotions that, to me, signifies intrest and passion. I find that to be closely related to the level of intrest a person can spark in me. Without passion, I couldn't care less for you probably. Without to ever feel that urge of just screaming your head off at something or someone (in a very non teen-angsty way; in the i'm-pissed-and-i-want-people-to-know-it way) you're just not that interesting.

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Postby Jackal on Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:18 am

I hardly think to myself I really hate that person. From time to time I've hated my dad and what he's done to the family, but at the end of the day he's still my dad. How long can you stay mad or hate the person responsible for bringing you to this earth? (Come to think of it, that's quite a valid reason to hate him even more, hehe, nah, c'mon, he's my dad!)

I can't think of anyone I truely despise (hate).

I dislike a lot of people, from nature I'm quite a bitter person, I dislike seeing people get happy over trivial shit.
I mean, wow, your dog learned not to shit on you and now just shits on your cat. Woopity fucking doo da.
I mean, seriously, kick some sense in to the dog, when he starts shitting on a piece of toilet paper, picking it up with his little fury paws, proceeds to the toilet & flushes his doodie down the toilet, then I can say ok, now be happy.
Till he's still shitting around all over the place, what's there to be happy about? Alright, it's an improvement from him shitting on your sheets, but then I can counter with the fact, what was he doing on your bed? Get him his own bed to shit in.
Say what? You love him & like to have him in bed with you? Does he fuck you to sleep too? Or does that fall under another category of love? Oh, animal love you say? Well then love the animal & teach him some fucking manners, your parents taught you not to shit on the furniture, right?

It can't learn that? Want a bet? Your parents taught you, didn't they you fucking animal?

Ehm...I seem to have gone a wee bit off topic.

After this little ramble, I've come to one conclusion. I hate dogs. Especially dogs that shit on peoples sheets! :x
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Postby Mentally Hilarious on Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:29 am

Ach, yes, those dogs and their sneaky attacks on the nonsuspecting sheets. Kill them all I say, kill them all!
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Postby FendeR` on Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:30 am

Jackal, did you have a bad experience with dogs and sheets when you were younger? Just a guess.
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Postby Jackal on Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:32 am

No, my ex used to get all giddy and shit when the dog didn't poo on her sheets. I just envy the fact he got into her bed. :lol:
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Postby FendeR` on Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:34 am

Jackal wrote:No, my ex used to get all giddy and shit when the dog didn't poo on her sheets. I just envy the fact he got into her bed. :lol:


Sounds kinky to me. :p I kid kid
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Postby Mentally Hilarious on Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:40 am

Jackal wrote:No, my ex used to get all giddy and shit when the dog didn't poo on her sheets. I just envy the fact he got into her bed. :lol:


So she let the dog in to her bed and not you. And the dog used to shit in the bed.

So yeah, I can see the bitterness.
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Postby Jackal on Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:49 am

Hehe, as I said in my ramble, did the dog fuck you to sleep too? Ofcourse I never asked her that, she'd bite my head off.

Anyways, let's ramble about something new.

Today, I went for a job interview. So now the lady looks at my application & she's like, oh so you're born in the States. Now being the crude person I am, the first thought that went through my mind was, no shit you hag, what does it say there? Country of birth: USA. Hmm, why would you have to ask that again, anyways, I'm in desperate need of a job so I just smile & say yes.

Ah, that's amazing she says, 2 years in Holland and I speak this fluent dutch, wow. I correct her by telling her I lived on Curaçao for 11 years, from there that I can speak dutch well. Pff, you should've seen the face on that twat. It was as if someone took out a long lost shovel that got shoved up her ass. I couldn't hold it in so I chuckled, she was like hehe, I know what you were thinking.

I'm like, do tell what you were thinking. She was like yeah, I've heard Antillians have a bit of lazy mentality, so I was just wondering if you would be suited for the job. This ofcourse, pissed me off. There were many things I could've said, but didn't. I just smiled, told her I knew when to work hard & I knew when I could relax. She would be making the right choice. Well, with a bit more of sweet talk (despite her making me sick, I'll get to that later), she agreed to give me the job so I start on Friday.

Now one of the things I could've said is that Antillians > Dutch. No offense to any dutch folks on the forums, but in all seriousness, this chaotic lifestyle, the routine, the constant checking if everything is going prim & proper, it sickens me. Once they classify you as a part of the "bad crowd" that's how you're to remain. You could be fucking Einstein but to them, you suck. Plain and simple. What they see as lazy, we see as relaxed. Fuck, who gives a shit about making the bus so that I can get to work 5 minutes earlier to have coffee & chat you up about how nice your weekend was? Seriously woman, I don't give a flying fuck about your weekend, I'd rather use those 5 minutes to sleep on my non poop infested sheets. Twat.

Another thing, they say all kinds of shit about the Caribbean, but when it's time for vacation, they all run off to there. Hypocrites. I've lived in both countries & I'll admit, Curaçao isn't perfect, far from it. But the less chaotic lifestyle just appeals to me, I like to be able to just skip school on a given day, get in the car with like 2 male friends & then go hit on hot chicks on the beach. I like having that option. I like being able to say, you know what teach? I didn't want to make my homework, how bout I hand it in tomorrow but I'll write 200 lines instead of 100? I like negotiating myself out of trouble. I learn more this way, atleast I think I do. Out here, you fuck up & that's it. You're fucked. I had to stay up for 2 straight days to learn 500 fucking pages of geography. Do I look like I give a rats ass as to how your soil is? Do I look like the type that's going to plant tomatoe's for you? Bah.

Holland is great in certain aspects, it takes care of its citizens, but I mean...everything is routine, rush here, rush there. Be on time and what not. Even when you go out, you have to like go through a protocol of events. You enter, the security guy in his dreary voice goes "don't cause any trouble", yeah, that's what I came to do here, of all places, right here. Once you tell me, ok, twice you tell me, bearable. EVERY WEEK?! C'mon. Then the music, "watskebeurt"? How am I supposed to dance to that? Put on some spanish merengue music, hell I'd even settle for some salsa. Give me a reason to be able to grab onto a womans ass without her being uncomfy in public. No, to enjoy myself I must smell the weed that's being smoked around me or get myself drunk where songs like "watskebeurt" actually sound appealing.

End ramble, for now. :x

Oh, about the ex, we were just 15 orso + she was/is all strict Christian so I never minded, just irked me when she let that dog sleep with her.
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Postby Riot on Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:10 pm

Anger and hate is a great emotion. I hate a lot of things, mostly foreign countries who think they can even compete with the Great ole' US of A. But I also had jag-offs who break the law and think they are cool by doing it. :x Those little punks, I'll get them some day.
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Postby cyanide on Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:10 pm

Glad to see you let it all out, Jackal. Can't believe how unprofessional she was by making a generalization about Antillians (n)

Regarding the first post, the way I see hate is different from the way I see "dislike." There are certain things things I dislike that I don't necessarily hate, and when I hate something, it's almost like having "grudge" attached to it. I don't like to hold grudges, as I like to forgive, rather than being pissed off all my life over something. I dislike onions, I dislike hypocrites, I dislike smoking. Besides, I don't think hate has to necessarily mean anger. I can get really angry, but "hate" doesn't have to come with it. For example, I can get really angry at a friend for dropping my digital camera in the ocean, but that doesn't mean I'll hate him.
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Postby Riot on Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:12 pm

What the fuck is the point in forgiving? That is the lamest thing ever. You did something wrong, why forgive and forget? Life doesn't rewind. What happened happened. I hate forgiveness.
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Postby cyanide on Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:14 pm

Well, I hate grudges. :P What's the point of staying pissed off over something that the other side regrets or is apologetic for?
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Postby MaD_hAND1e on Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:15 pm

Jackal wrote:
Oh, about the ex, we were just 15 orso + she was/is all strict Christian so I never minded, just irked me when she let that dog sleep with her.


Maybe pre-marital sex wasn't ok, but beastiality was.
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Postby Riot on Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:18 pm

cyanide wrote:Well, I hate grudges. :P What's the point of staying pissed off over something that the other side regrets or is apologetic for?


Because they did something stupid. I shoot your dad, but I'm so sorry and I have a bunch of regrets for it. It still happened.

Another example, some lady cuts you off while you're driving. Oh, she is so sorry but what is forgiveness going to do? I'm always going to remember her as the lady who cut me off and pissed me off. You can't erase memory from your head. Here's an idea: don't screw up.
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Postby Jackal on Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:21 pm

Maybe pre-marital sex wasn't ok, but beastiality was.

Now now, no need to get nasty...show a bit of respect.
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Postby FendeR` on Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:39 pm

I'm with Riot. Why forgive when you can just hate someone forever instead?
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Postby -BHZMAFIA- on Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:57 pm

I can't hate nobody because hate is a strong word. I mean if you hate somebody, that means you want them to die. I can understand hating the KKK or George Bush :lol: but hating any of your family members unless they killed someone real close to you or something is wrong IMO. I get real mad at people at times and even people at my school get me mad, but I can't say that I hate them because you may not know that persons situation out of the school life and they could just be some REAL poor family that has nowhere to live and the only thing he can do is just play around alot at school. I'm black, I have to try and be more of a peace maker than getting into alot of fights because I know I live down south and they'll throw my black ass in juvenile as quickly as possible :lol:
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Postby cyanide on Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:05 pm

Riot wrote:Because they did something stupid. I shoot your dad, but I'm so sorry and I have a bunch of regrets for it. It still happened.


Now, that's an exception, but how often does that happen?

Another example, some lady cuts you off while you're driving. Oh, she is so sorry but what is forgiveness going to do?


It's not like I'm going to forgive her, but it's not like I'm going to hate her either. I'll probably forget about her within a couple minutes while you're rolling around your bed gnashing your teeth and sweating with fury :lol:

SbHzMaFiA© wrote:I mean if you hate somebody, that means you want them to die.


I've been told that, too. Glad to see you're on the non-hater side ;)
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Postby Riot on Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:15 pm

There really isn't anything wrong with wanting someone to die. Now, if you actually kill them..well, that's a problem.
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Postby Username123 on Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:11 pm

Yea i dont hate anyone i some times dislike ppl. Like for instance the lesbian boss of mine she caught me not working on my first day. I dont see the point of hating someone it just angers u more and u cant do anything about unless u wanna hurt them real bad. I am a good guy i dont hate anyone and no one hates me (except for JAckal)
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Postby Filip on Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:42 pm

I hate my brother this week.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:52 pm

There is only one true difference between hate and the rest of teh human emotions.

Hate is NOT controlled. Hate CONTROLS you, and leads your subsequent actions. When you hate, you ARE NOT really yourself, you become an instinct-driven animal with no conscious control over decisions or actions. And all the time you spent under its influence, is time totally and utterly lost when considering things in hindsight.

I personally pity the humans that give in to their hate often... I believe they are too mentally weak to overcome their base emotions and take control of their own destiny. But then again, that's me.


Never forget one thing, people: the only way to achieve TRUE FREEDOM is to rid yourself of the extremes. No fear, but no hope either. No hate, but no love either. Are you ready to take that step?
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Postby Filip on Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:23 pm

D-Wolverine 99027 wrote:There is only one true difference between hate and the rest of teh human emotions.

Hate is NOT controlled. Hate CONTROLS you, and leads your subsequent actions. When you hate, you ARE NOT really yourself, you become an instinct-driven animal with no conscious control over decisions or actions. And all the time you spent under its influence, is time totally and utterly lost when considering things in hindsight.

You could insert the emotion love or even "horniess" there as well.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:28 pm

love or even "horniess"


They are two different things. Love leads to instinctive action but is far more tameable than hatred...
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Postby Filip on Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:33 pm

People kill for love as well as hatred.
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