Final MVP Thread

by **j.23** on Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:05 am

lebron would have been a legitimate candidate if his team did a little better than they are.. i think after the little slump they had, he kinda fell off the radar

i think it comes down to shaq and nash with shaq winning by a slight margin

by **cyanide** on Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:08 am

I agree with LeBron being in the list... but I think the award will ultimately go to Steve Nash. Pretty amazing, first point guard to potentially win it in a couple decades.

by **Keo** on Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:36 am

Well I guess "other" is just LeBron and Wade...

by **kevC** on Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:12 am

Steve Nash doesn't deserve it but I'd put my money on him winning as the media seems to love him

by **Indy** on Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:31 am

c-webbsixers wrote:Well I guess "other" is just LeBron and Wade...

and Chris webber of course

by **Colin** on Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:45 am

I'm not sure that Steve deserves it because of his defence, but we will get it.

by **The GOAT** on Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:06 am

kevC wrote:Steve Nash doesn't deserve it

Care to explain?

by **kevC** on Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:33 pm

Colin wrote:I'm not sure that Steve deserves it because of his defence, but we will get it.

Also, he's not even the best player on his team why should he deserve MVP?

by **fgrep15** on Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:09 pm

^
....because he has the MVP hype, because people overatted the losses they had when he first went out, and because he's a PG, and many people want to see a PG win it, it happens.

Marion isn't really considered an MVP candidate.

I picked Shaq, but my rankings go like this:

1) Shaquille O'neal
2) Dirk Nowitzki
3) Steve Nash
4) Tim Duncan
5) Dwyane Wade
6) Allen Iverson
7) Gilbert Arenas
8) Lebron James
9) Ray Allen
10) Tracy McGrady and Amare Stoudemire

by **kevC** on Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:33 pm

....because he has the MVP hype, because people overatted the losses they had when he first went out, and because he's a PG, and many people want to see a PG win it, it happens.

Exactly, that's why I think he's going to win it because of the hype. But that doesn't mean he "deserves" it.

by **Fresh8** on Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:51 pm

Shaquille O'neal.. all he has is Wade and then the talent is average.

The Suns' Nash has Amare, Q, Marion and then their bench is probably better than the Heats...

So Shaq should beat Nash for it

by **jwill2** on Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:21 pm

kevC wrote:
Colin wrote:I'm not sure that Steve deserves it because of his defence, but we will get it.

Also, he's not even the best player on his team why should he deserve MVP?

the only other player on the suns roster that deserves mvp voting would be marion and i'm not even sure he's a better player than nash. if marion appeared on the vote he'd be 10-15th place.

by **COOLmac©** on Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:43 pm

IMO the suns will sweep most of tha awards this year.
MVP will came from the suns
and COY noone else but the gangster MIKE D'ANTONI

by **T-wolves** on Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:14 pm

As much as the Timberwolves have struggled this season Im going KG (yeah its a bit biased) still putting up monster numbers and winning games for the wolves. Though this year has been the closest for awhile so its tough so I'll stick with KG he is still kicking arse in effiency too. I mean Nash has clearly made the team better, than you have AI scoring big or you have Shaqs big improvement to the Heat's team and plenty more.

by **Keo** on Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:41 pm

IndyPacers67 wrote:
c-webbsixers wrote:Well I guess "other" is just LeBron and Wade...

and Chris webber of course

I wouldn't go that far but whatever u say...

by **Null17** on Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:55 pm

i'm going with duncan or shaq... though i don't really like shaq very much...

by **fgrep15** on Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:19 am

jwill2 wrote:
kevC wrote:
Colin wrote:I'm not sure that Steve deserves it because of his defence, but we will get it.

Also, he's not even the best player on his team why should he deserve MVP?

the only other player on the suns roster that deserves mvp voting would be marion and i'm not even sure he's a better player than nash. if marion appeared on the vote he'd be 10-15th place.

Yes Marion is a better player than Nash, and his impact on the team is huge and very underatted, but he's like a Camby, he impacts the team, but no one would seriously consider him MVP, though Marion has the numbers to make an argument.

As much as the Timberwolves have struggled this season Im going KG (yeah its a bit biased) still putting up monster numbers and winning games for the wolves. Though this year has been the closest for awhile so its tough so I'll stick with KG he is still kicking arse in effiency too. I mean Nash has clearly made the team better, than you have AI scoring big or you have Shaqs big improvement to the Heat's team and plenty more.

Can't be MVP without being in the post season, just not happening...

by **jwill2** on Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:06 am

fgrep15 wrote:
jwill2 wrote:
kevC wrote:
Colin wrote:I'm not sure that Steve deserves it because of his defence, but we will get it.

Also, he's not even the best player on his team why should he deserve MVP?

the only other player on the suns roster that deserves mvp voting would be marion and i'm not even sure he's a better player than nash. if marion appeared on the vote he'd be 10-15th place.

Yes Marion is a better player than Nash, and his impact on the team is huge and very underatted, but he's like a Camby, he impacts the team, but no one would seriously consider him MVP, though Marion has the numbers to make an argument.

marion and nash play different positions, so it's hard to compare. but you can't deny the fact that nash is playing the best in the nba for his position.

by **Madsnyb** on Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:19 am

jwill2 wrote:
kevC wrote:
Colin wrote:I'm not sure that Steve deserves it because of his defence, but we will get it.

Also, he's not even the best player on his team why should he deserve MVP?

the only other player on the suns roster that deserves mvp voting would be marion and i'm not even sure he's a better player than nash. if marion appeared on the vote he'd be 10-15th place.

Why aren't anyone mentioning Amaré? He's put up great numbers, and IMO he's more important than Marion. He's really got something special with his combination of speed, size and power.

by **fgrep15** on Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:30 am

marion and nash play different positions, so it's hard to compare. but you can't deny the fact that nash is playing the best in the nba for his position.

Well their is Jason Kidd, but he just has a much much much lesser team around him....

by **air gordon** on Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:33 am

Jackal wrote:Since I'm biased, I want Shaq to get it. Hehe, what an in your face that would be.

frank gives an opinion about shaq that's biased? no surprise here :roll:

COOLmac© wrote:IMO the suns will sweep most of tha awards this year.
MVP will came from the suns
and COY noone else but the gangster MIKE D'ANTON

i don't think so. MVP, coach, and exectutive of the year are the only awards a person from the phoenix from the organization are in contention for. that still leaves ROY, MIP, DPOY, 6th man...

by **Keo** on Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:21 am

Amare might (and I stress that word) be in contention for MIP... and DPOY, I dunno Marion?... maybe?... :lol:

by **jwill2** on Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:43 am

fgrep15 wrote:
marion and nash play different positions, so it's hard to compare. but you can't deny the fact that nash is playing the best in the nba for his position.

Well their is Jason Kidd, but he just has a much much much lesser team around him....

kidd's been injured, and nash has done more for the suns than kidd has for the nets this year.

madsnyb wrote:Why aren't anyone mentioning Amaré? He's put up great numbers, and IMO he's more important than Marion. He's really got something special with his combination of speed, size and power.

marion > amare. in my opinion.

by **fgrep15** on Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:37 am

kidd's been injured, and nash has done more for the suns than kidd has for the nets this year.

I don't know about Nash doing more for the Suns, I mean the Nets started off horrible, and now are fighting for a playoff spot even though they only ave 2 stars, a mediocre guy in Kristic, and mostly scrubs.

I think each have done as much for their team considering the situations...

by **The GOAT** on Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:58 am

fgrep15 wrote:
kidd's been injured, and nash has done more for the suns than kidd has for the nets this year.

I don't know about Nash doing more for the Suns, I mean the Nets started off horrible, and now are fighting for a playoff spot

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