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Postby ShivaSquad on Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:19 pm

did u c the hornets game? who the hell is good on the hornets? bostjan nochbar? speedy claxton? CHRIS ANDERSON? no.

ok so anyway i go down to watch this game and its close between NJ and NO. then its just funny to watch how horrendous this team is. i dunno how much time was on the clock but p.j. brown bricked a shot and chris anderson got a lucky put back as he fell to the floor and smashed his dome on the ground. he jus laid there for like 20 seconds. then he got up and started doing pushups... like wtf hes so stupid. he got a frikkin putback to tie the game and did about 5 pushups right there on the court thinkin hes cool

then with 8 seconds left tie game 77-77 speedy claxton doesnt know what hes doing so he tries to get past kidd and cant so he gets rid of it and throws it to nachbar. nachbar heaves up the semi-open 3 and bricks it pretty badly... goes to overtime

later on its a 4 point nets lead in OT and nachbar hits a lucky ass ugly 3. then nets miss and next possession p.j. brown hits this pathetic ugly shot where his arm jus stretched out to the left... it was soooo lucky but it somehow went in... and the 15 or so fans in the stadium got up and started cheering.

so nets down 1 with 30 sec... carter takes a quick jumper misses... jarron collins gets the rebound, gets fouled. goes to line for 2 misses both, gets his how board... then tries to go back up but gets SWATTED by chris anderson. kidd grabs the ball with 5 seconds left and in the mean time anderson is standing there in his after-swat pose acting like hes a superstar... little did he kno that there was still 5 seconds left on the clock. so kidd comes right at him draws the foul hits the shot and the FT... nets up 2. andersons a frikkin idiot...

then wit 2.5 seconds left j.r. smith gets the inbound and gets fouled while shooting the 3 by kidd. he goes to the line for 3 for a chance to win it. he misses the first FT. he misses the 2nd FT. he tries to miss the 3rd FT which was the only way to giv his team a chance to win and he makes it off the glass. then carter jus threw it up and nets won.

it was so horrendous... chris anderson especially... and bostjan nachbar and j.r. smith being the go-to-guys from 3 in OT and end of regulation is sad.

i think the worst part of it all is wen i saw the replay of one of anderson's dunks... where he dunked it and swung around. u kno "spider" from the and1 mix tape tour? he always hangs onto the rim and twists his body up onto the rim and it looks cool. well anderson tried to do something like that and it looked so gay... then runnin down the court he did this motion wit his hands. supposedly its his dunk called "the birdman."

damn that guy is patheticly bad. the only cool thing i saw from this game is afterwards VC ran up to j.r. smith and gav him some words of encouragement... and it looked like he really meant it. also vince was so happy after the game tlakin to the nets reporters... hes cool im beginnin to like him more
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Postby Ataraxia on Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:21 pm

3 years time it'll be JR giving the word of advice to VC :mrgreen: :twisted:
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Postby Doobie on Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:49 pm

Well the hornets are a young team at the moment and after a couple first round picks they will be an elite team with jr smith as their leader. Chris andersen is always gonna be some loser on the bench of every team.
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Postby air gordon on Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:21 pm

at least the hornets have an excuse. their best player forced a trade, and the 2nd best player- mashburn was out for most of the year and traded for another player who probably won't play for them... and their 3rd best player- magloire is finally returning in a few weeks.
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Postby jwill2 on Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:41 pm

and wesley was traded too.
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Postby IronMan on Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:33 am

VC, how can you say you like him more? That is not what you should be doing as an athlete, talking to other teammates like everything's all chummy. That was his biggest problem in Toronto. He's not there to compete, he's there to socialize. Even when the Raptors were down by like 20, he'd be over there on the other team's bench joking with Shaq and smiling. That is not what a competitor does. If your head is truly in the game, you're out there in your own zone playing basketball, not talking about your weekend with the family.
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Postby Fresh8 on Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:12 am

JR Smith is gonna be good. The Hornets arent a great team... and they are too young. WOuldnt mind seeing JR/Bogut team up! (Y)

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Postby Amphatoast on Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:37 pm

maybe VC was telling JR "Don't give it your best effort..it's not worth it, better off play some nights and get traded like i did"
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Postby Indy on Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:43 pm

Sit wrote:Chris Anderson is retarded!


hahahaha for some reason that made me laugh really hard.
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Postby fgrep15 on Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:09 pm

BrokenWings wrote:VC, how can you say you like him more? That is not what you should be doing as an athlete, talking to other teammates like everything's all chummy. That was his biggest problem in Toronto. He's not there to compete, he's there to socialize. Even when the Raptors were down by like 20, he'd be over there on the other team's bench joking with Shaq and smiling. That is not what a competitor does. If your head is truly in the game, you're out there in your own zone playing basketball, not talking about your weekend with the family.

You know they won the game right? Even if they lost, I think it's always a good thing for older players to encourage younger guys coming into the league. JR Smith was very dejected after the game as anyone would when they miss 2 free throws, and then make the one then have to miss, so I don't see any problem with it.

Vince has always been like that though, the thing is that none of the Raptors fans or media complained about it till the team began losing. In his earlier years, it was good sportsmanship, and him just making light of the situation when he congratulated opponents even after losses, but the last few seasons, it was him not caring about winning.
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Re: The Horrible Horrendous Hornets (and other woeful teams)

Postby NNpF on Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:12 pm

ShivaSquad wrote:did u c the hornets game? who the hell is good on the hornets? bostjan nochbar? speedy claxton? CHRIS ANDERSON? no.

ok so anyway i go down to watch this game and its close between NJ and NO. then its just funny to watch how horrendous this team is. i dunno how much time was on the clock but p.j. brown bricked a shot and chris anderson got a lucky put back as he fell to the floor and smashed his dome on the ground. he jus laid there for like 20 seconds. then he got up and started doing pushups... like wtf hes so stupid. he got a frikkin putback to tie the game and did about 5 pushups right there on the court thinkin hes cool

then with 8 seconds left tie game 77-77 speedy claxton doesnt know what hes doing so he tries to get past kidd and cant so he gets rid of it and throws it to nachbar. nachbar heaves up the semi-open 3 and bricks it pretty badly... goes to overtime

later on its a 4 point nets lead in OT and nachbar hits a lucky ass ugly 3. then nets miss and next possession p.j. brown hits this pathetic ugly shot where his arm jus stretched out to the left... it was soooo lucky but it somehow went in... and the 15 or so fans in the stadium got up and started cheering.

so nets down 1 with 30 sec... carter takes a quick jumper misses... jarron collins gets the rebound, gets fouled. goes to line for 2 misses both, gets his how board... then tries to go back up but gets SWATTED by chris anderson. kidd grabs the ball with 5 seconds left and in the mean time anderson is standing there in his after-swat pose acting like hes a superstar... little did he kno that there was still 5 seconds left on the clock. so kidd comes right at him draws the foul hits the shot and the FT... nets up 2. andersons a frikkin idiot...

then wit 2.5 seconds left j.r. smith gets the inbound and gets fouled while shooting the 3 by kidd. he goes to the line for 3 for a chance to win it. he misses the first FT. he misses the 2nd FT. he tries to miss the 3rd FT which was the only way to giv his team a chance to win and he makes it off the glass. then carter jus threw it up and nets won.

it was so horrendous... chris anderson especially... and bostjan nachbar and j.r. smith being the go-to-guys from 3 in OT and end of regulation is sad.

i think the worst part of it all is wen i saw the replay of one of anderson's dunks... where he dunked it and swung around. u kno "spider" from the and1 mix tape tour? he always hangs onto the rim and twists his body up onto the rim and it looks cool. well anderson tried to do something like that and it looked so gay... then runnin down the court he did this motion wit his hands. supposedly its his dunk called "the birdman."

damn that guy is patheticly bad. the only cool thing i saw from this game is afterwards VC ran up to j.r. smith and gav him some words of encouragement... and it looked like he really meant it. also vince was so happy after the game tlakin to the nets reporters... hes cool im beginnin to like him more


Take it easy man...They've just been dismantled from top to bottom and are starting fresh. You can't expect such a "new" team to really do too much with what they have.
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Postby IronMan on Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:52 pm

You know they won the game right? Even if they lost, I think it's always a good thing for older players to encourage younger guys coming into the league. JR Smith was very dejected after the game as anyone would when they miss 2 free throws, and then make the one then have to miss, so I don't see any problem with it.

Vince has always been like that though, the thing is that none of the Raptors fans or media complained about it till the team began losing. In his earlier years, it was good sportsmanship, and him just making light of the situation when he congratulated opponents even after losses, but the last few seasons, it was him not caring about winning.


And that's when it starts to become a problem. Okay, I agree it's fine to give young players like JR advice after they lose a game like that. But note, the Nets WON. Back in Toronto, he was losing and still smiling after games and talking to the other team's players. Is that the type of player you want on your basketball team? I want a competitor, not mr. social. What could you POSSIBLY be saying to the other team after a loss, or when you're down by 20. "Haha, how about my Raptors. Man, are we ever terrible." While you're losing in the middle of a game, you should be playing your own game and focussing on what you could be doing to win the game. He wasn't always like that, that's a lie. Back in his first three seasons I would say, he was a competitor. Against former teammate Tracy Mcgrady, he said a couple nice words at the beginning of the game, and kept his game face after tip-off. Not a single word, he played his game.
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Postby Fresh8 on Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:09 pm

Can comeone explain why Chris Anderson did pushups i nthe game???
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Postby Jona on Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:03 am

Because he is an asshole that cannot play the game of basketball. (N)
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Postby Ataraxia on Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:33 am

Jona2112 wrote:Because he is an asshole that cannot play the game of basketball. (N)

I bet he'd kick your ass in 1-on-1..... :roll:

Whats wrong with him....hes a solid defensive player...he just likes to have some fun on the court....not like he turns into a bitch like Steve Francis now does he....
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Postby fgrep15 on Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:46 am

Steve Francis is really a baby lol, I laughed when he left the court before the Raptors game ended, maybe he was embarassed losing to the Raptors, but I guess he didn't get the Memo that the Raps are a good home team.

They could've won the game though, if Francis passed the ball to Howard a little more, their was one play where Howard was calling for the ball for who knows how long, but Francis just kept dribbling. I think for the future of that team, Francis will have to be moved sometime down the road. He needs to go to a team where everyone else is bad, and he can dribble all he wants.
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Postby Null17 on Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:47 am

for some reason, i see chris andersen and someone who tries to be cool so much that he ends up looking like a dork. plus the one million attempts he had in the slam dunk contest was really annoying. did he come in last place two years in a row in the slam dunk contest?
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Postby fgrep15 on Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:49 am

BrokenWings wrote:
You know they won the game right? Even if they lost, I think it's always a good thing for older players to encourage younger guys coming into the league. JR Smith was very dejected after the game as anyone would when they miss 2 free throws, and then make the one then have to miss, so I don't see any problem with it.

Vince has always been like that though, the thing is that none of the Raptors fans or media complained about it till the team began losing. In his earlier years, it was good sportsmanship, and him just making light of the situation when he congratulated opponents even after losses, but the last few seasons, it was him not caring about winning.


And that's when it starts to become a problem. Okay, I agree it's fine to give young players like JR advice after they lose a game like that. But note, the Nets WON. Back in Toronto, he was losing and still smiling after games and talking to the other team's players. Is that the type of player you want on your basketball team? I want a competitor, not mr. social. What could you POSSIBLY be saying to the other team after a loss, or when you're down by 20. "Haha, how about my Raptors. Man, are we ever terrible." While you're losing in the middle of a game, you should be playing your own game and focussing on what you could be doing to win the game. He wasn't always like that, that's a lie. Back in his first three seasons I would say, he was a competitor. Against former teammate Tracy Mcgrady, he said a couple nice words at the beginning of the game, and kept his game face after tip-off. Not a single word, he played his game.

He's not "always" like that even now, but I can gurantee you he's been like that since when he was a rookie, I have clips on my computer even of him smiling or whatever in games. I even remember him saying one time that his game face is a smile. Like I said, no one notices those things when everything is fine, when things go bad is when people start to pick at an possible faults they can find in a player.

It's just like some players, everything is fine, but when the team starts to lose, is when their true colours begin to show. Like how guys only complain about minutes and shots when the team starts to lose. I'm talking about players that play like 28 minutes, but normally would play 35 or so, not someone playing 10 MPG on a winning team, no one would really enjoy that. It's the exact same with fans and media, when things are bad is when things that no one cared about before start to matter.
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Postby Ataraxia on Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:41 am

Null17 wrote:for some reason, i see chris andersen and someone who tries to be cool so much that he ends up looking like a dork. plus the one million attempts he had in the slam dunk contest was really annoying. did he come in last place two years in a row in the slam dunk contest?

well at least he doesnt act or try to be a "ghetto dogggg" or whine.....he enjoys playing basketball........is that a crime....I think some players tend to forget that and then they go all bitchy and wanna bandwagon the winners :roll:

The all-star contest was embarassing...so what....its supposed to be fun...at least he brought some laughter to nations across the world :lol:

btw I dont think Chris Andersen is trying to act cool.....its just his zaney and unique personality....hes not like 90% of the NBA which is rap loving and overly bling'd up.....

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Postby IronMan on Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:57 am

fgrep15 wrote:He's not "always" like that even now, but I can gurantee you he's been like that since when he was a rookie, I have clips on my computer even of him smiling or whatever in games. I even remember him saying one time that his game face is a smile. Like I said, no one notices those things when everything is fine, when things go bad is when people start to pick at an possible faults they can find in a player.

It's just like some players, everything is fine, but when the team starts to lose, is when their true colours begin to show. Like how guys only complain about minutes and shots when the team starts to lose. I'm talking about players that play like 28 minutes, but normally would play 35 or so, not someone playing 10 MPG on a winning team, no one would really enjoy that. It's the exact same with fans and media, when things are bad is when things that no one cared about before start to matter.


No, you're not getting the point. Yes, he smiled after a good play, or when his team is up. And he did that frequently in the older days, because the Raptors were winning. THAT is a reason to smile. Are trying to tell me that it is okay to talk to the other team and joke with other team members while your team is losing?? Stop trying to make it like Carter is the "victim"... he is not. He deserved all the criticism. He was not serious as a player in Toronto. He didn't believe in practices. He had no strive to win during his later years here. And socializing with other players during a game in which he is losing is a reflection of his lack of commitment to Toronto. Want more proof? How about his confession when he moved to New Jersey saying how he could have tried harder when he was playing in Toronto. Come on, don't be blind.
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Postby FendeR` on Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:25 am

ROFL, when I read the whole story of the game I was like "wow Chris Anderson is a retard" but I couldn't quite remember him. Someone said something about the dunk contest, and now I remember, WOW he is hilariously bad at dunking. Sounds like his play is laughable too, rofl showing off after a block when there's still 5 seconds left and then giving the other team the lead, cracks me up.
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Postby ShivaSquad on Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:56 am

BrokenWings wrote:No, you're not getting the point. Yes, he smiled after a good play, or when his team is up. And he did that frequently in the older days, because the Raptors were winning. THAT is a reason to smile. Are trying to tell me that it is okay to talk to the other team and joke with other team members while your team is losing?? Stop trying to make it like Carter is the "victim"... he is not. He deserved all the criticism. He was not serious as a player in Toronto. He didn't believe in practices. He had no strive to win during his later years here. And socializing with other players during a game in which he is losing is a reflection of his lack of commitment to Toronto. Want more proof? How about his confession when he moved to New Jersey saying how he could have tried harder when he was playing in Toronto. Come on, don't be blind.


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Postby IronMan on Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:16 am

Then maybe he should be playing recreational basketball. He gets paid for a reason. To compete.
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Postby fgrep15 on Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:26 am

BrokenWings wrote:
fgrep15 wrote:He's not "always" like that even now, but I can gurantee you he's been like that since when he was a rookie, I have clips on my computer even of him smiling or whatever in games. I even remember him saying one time that his game face is a smile. Like I said, no one notices those things when everything is fine, when things go bad is when people start to pick at an possible faults they can find in a player.

It's just like some players, everything is fine, but when the team starts to lose, is when their true colours begin to show. Like how guys only complain about minutes and shots when the team starts to lose. I'm talking about players that play like 28 minutes, but normally would play 35 or so, not someone playing 10 MPG on a winning team, no one would really enjoy that. It's the exact same with fans and media, when things are bad is when things that no one cared about before start to matter.


No, you're not getting the point. Yes, he smiled after a good play, or when his team is up. And he did that frequently in the older days, because the Raptors were winning. THAT is a reason to smile. Are trying to tell me that it is okay to talk to the other team and joke with other team members while your team is losing?? Stop trying to make it like Carter is the "victim"... he is not. He deserved all the criticism. He was not serious as a player in Toronto. He didn't believe in practices. He had no strive to win during his later years here. And socializing with other players during a game in which he is losing is a reflection of his lack of commitment to Toronto. Want more proof? How about his confession when he moved to New Jersey saying how he could have tried harder when he was playing in Toronto. Come on, don't be blind.

When did I say it's okay, not that I actually care about it, but I said he always did it, no one complained till after he got injured, and after the team was losing, I'd show you clips of games the Raptors had in his earlier years where he was being light hearted even while losing. I even know people like that who I play with, cry me a river. No strive to win in his later years here? Is that later years, or just in the beginning of this season? Last season, no one complained about the smiling, the team barely missed the playoffs, and in large part due to them going 0-9 when Carter was out, no one was complaining then. The only complaints were about him not driving to the basket enough, but in the last months of the season he was getting the the line 6 times a game, and shooting 43%.

Carter knows a lot of people in the NBA, he's good friends with a lot of other players, he's no KG on the court if thats what people expected him to be. Who cares really, it bothered some people, but also didn't bother other people, many people thought it was fine or didn't care, and their's many other players that are cheerful after losing and no one cares. He's been playing well and been more concentrated in New Jersey, but still does the smile all the time thing, who cares? I don't know where him not believing in practices came from, I thought that was Iverson?

Thanks for telling me that he confessed that he should've worked harder during the off-season as a Raptor though, cause I didn't know that and I definately needed more proof of his amazing [:roll:] work ethic, even though that isn't relative to smiling on the court. Who do you think I am, someone that's ignorant of what goes on with the Raptors? Please... :lol:
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Postby Amphatoast on Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:37 am

Man, I don't get what you guys are complaining about.

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Although he looked like a ass in the dunk contest, it was still entertaining. Even if it meant Charles Barkely cracking up on him, it was still good watching him miss.
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