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Postby NNpF on Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:19 pm

Riot wrote:
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Riot wrote:Marbury called KG a loser and during that interview on TNT last night KG said "Nobody can call me a loser to my face". I want to see Marbury call KG a loser to his face instead of the media. :lol:

"I haven't seen better acting than this since Marbury acted like a basketball player over in the Olympics" (Y)


To be clear, this was recent?


Was what recent? That quote at the end wasn't from Marbury or KG, it was from a guy named Jonny Voss.


I think he was asking how long ago did Marbury call Garnett a loser.
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Postby Jona on Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:27 pm

That's what I thought.... :?
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Postby Drex on Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:00 pm

When did Marbury called him that?? Link, video, photos??
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Postby Indy on Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:35 am

Drex wrote:When did Marbury called him that?? Link, video, photos??


how are photos gonna prove he said that? :P
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Postby Riot on Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:37 am

"He's just like me," Marbury said of Kidd at yesterday's morning shootaround before the Nets beat the Knicks, 93-87. "He's a loser. We're both losers. Neither of us have won a championship. Tim Duncan is a winner. Kevin Garnett is a loser just like me. Charles Barkley is a loser just like me. [TNT partner] Kenny Smith is a winner.



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Postby Andrew on Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:44 pm

The difference is, of course, that Barkley and Kidd have both had opportunities to win championships. They may have lost on the biggest stage, but any team that can get to the NBA Finals, whether they win or lose, has done extremely well. I consider players such as Kidd, Barkley and Garnett to be more successful than Marbury having advanced further into the playoffs.
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Postby Amphatoast on Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:50 pm

lol, marbury was just trying to not look like a ass. Declaring yourself the best, then losing to one of the best, what better way to comeback and say he is a loser still? Suprised he didn't bring up stockton in his rant.
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Postby Drex on Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:53 pm

how are photos gonna prove he said that? :P

Like, you know "Stephon Marbury (left) comments about Kevin Garnett" :D
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Postby Riot on Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:15 am

Did anyone else see that KG interview on 1 on 1? KG was crying.
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Postby cyanide on Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:10 am

Thanks for the link, Riot.

Is there transcript of that KG interview, where he was crying?
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Postby Riot on Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:16 am

I don't think so, it was TNT's one on one and John Thompson was interviewing him. Some things KG said were....

"I see the Spurs, I see Shaq with his new team and I talk to Chauncey alot. We have the talent to be one of those teams but we aren't. It is what it is but it don't make it easier." Something like that.

"I'm just one piece of the puzzle"

"I'm losing..I'm losing, I'm losing. I'm losing, I'm losing man." Then he got teary-eyed and told the cameras to cut it.

"I don't run sprints because I have to, I don't take extra shots after practice because I have to. I don't have to."

"I'm beat up, I'm beat up John. I'm beat up. But I still suit up. 30% or 100% it doesn't matter. It's in my heart, john. And you can't measure that."


Some other quotes were good but he started to cry and he would pound his head. He told John "I don't want to be like this in front of you" and John said "You think this is a sign of weakness? This makes you stronger, I don't respect you less because of this."

It was a very interesting interview.
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Postby DipSetVC on Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:37 am

I think he should stay with the Nets, he's got a motivated Vince Carter, along with a healthy RJ who'll only continue to get better. They also get plenty of flexibility with the cap seeing how Dikembe Mutumbo, Lucious Harris, Rodney Rogers all come off the books at the end of the year. They could add someone like Shariff Abdur-Rahim to put alongside Nenad Kristic and they'll be a very solid team.
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Postby Drex on Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:54 pm

I don't think so, it was TNT's one on one and John Thompson was interviewing him. Some things KG said were....

"I see the Spurs, I see Shaq with his new team and I talk to Chauncey alot. We have the talent to be one of those teams but we aren't. It is what it is but it don't make it easier." Something like that.

"I'm just one piece of the puzzle"

"I'm losing..I'm losing, I'm losing. I'm losing, I'm losing man." Then he got teary-eyed and told the cameras to cut it.

"I don't run sprints because I have to, I don't take extra shots after practice because I have to. I don't have to."

"I'm beat up, I'm beat up John. I'm beat up. But I still suit up. 30% or 100% it doesn't matter. It's in my heart, john. And you can't measure that."


Some other quotes were good but he started to cry and he would pound his head. He told John "I don't want to be like this in front of you" and John said "You think this is a sign of weakness? This makes you stronger, I don't respect you less because of this."

It was a very interesting interview.

:shock: OMG, I can't imagine KG crying in a interview.
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Postby The Future on Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:59 pm

IndyPacers67 wrote:i dont think kidds going anywhere until the offseason.


agreed. You would htink he'd be happy that he has a player like VC playing with him....
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Postby Andrew on Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:10 pm

The Nets are still much weaker top to bottom than they have been in recent years however; getting Vince has helped matters, but they're still not at the level they were even a year ago. I'm sure Kidd would like to be contending for a title, but New Jersey has slipped out of contention after this past offseason. Even if things are a little brighter at the moment, the Nets are retooling if not rebuilding. Right or wrong, I can understand while Kidd is still interested in moving on.
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Postby Riot on Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:02 am

"Garnett, truth be told, wanted to skip All-Star Weekend completely to rest his sore knee, but was promptly informed by the league that he would have to spend the first five games out of the break on the injured list if he declined to show. Reluctant for days to even discuss his condition publicly, KG finally addressed it briefly after logging 16 minutes here, thanking the coach for his understanding." ESPN.com



Looks like Garnett did want to sit out, it's just the league didn't want him to.
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Postby Andrew on Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:47 pm

Similar thing happened to Karl Malone in 2000.
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Postby Fresh8 on Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:22 pm

Can KG sue the league if he sustains any major injury later this season... i think he could. Not a wise move for the league if its true they forced KG to play...
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Postby Riot on Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:03 am

Well, they didn't "force". They just said if you don't show up you will have to go on the IL which will cause him to miss atleast five games for the T-Wolves.
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Postby Sauru on Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:53 am

the nba is a fans league moreso than any of the other major sports. if the fans voted for you to be at the game then stern thinks you better be there unless you are actually hurt in which case its the IR for you. i remember how malone used to say he hated all star games and threatened to skip it every single season. that would have been lame if the fans kept voting him into the lineup and the nba just let him skip it. i say good call by stern on this one and good call by the coach for allowing him limited minutes.
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Postby Andrew on Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:54 pm

I have to agree. Brad Miller is the only player I can recall sustaining a significant injury in the All-Star game. A token appearance to acknowledge the fan's vote is somewhat of an obligation, though obviously a player needn't play heavy minutes if he's not 100%. A lot of the pride and honour seems to have gone out of All-Star Weekend. I can understand the reservations players may have about competing, but it just doesn't seem to be special for players anymore, at least for some of the perennial All-Stars.
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Postby Ataraxia on Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:30 pm

Andrew wrote:I have to agree. Brad Miller is the only player I can recall sustaining a significant injury in the All-Star game. A token appearance to acknowledge the fan's vote is somewhat of an obligation, though obviously a player needn't play heavy minutes if he's not 100%. A lot of the pride and honour seems to have gone out of All-Star Weekend. I can understand the reservations players may have about competing, but it just doesn't seem to be special for players anymore, at least for some of the perennial All-Stars.

yup......but I think in the modern days everythings turning into popularity contests...but the NBA should consider trying a ROW vs USA game....but I think Stern believes that something like that will decrease unity among international players and homegrown players....which isnt something u need...I know its just one game but I think their could be more passion and fierce competition in a game like that compared to an all-star game.
But yeah Poppovich had already said he was gonna remove Duncan and KG after he finished with them in the fourth quarter.....because McHale had called him n told him abt KG's foot....n Pop also didnt wanna overwork Duncan aswell.....I think Van Gundy did his share too by having VC play few mins due to his history of injuries....n Im sure Thorn would have made a call to him aswell.

But I dunno.....I think the all-star game needs a Ron Artest or two...the guys that take every game seriously(well Ron does)....it might help fire up a better and harder fought game between east n west.

Or maybe they could even try a jumble.....like divisions.....eg u could have Pacific+Atlantic+Southwest vs Midwest+Southwest+Southeast....or something like that....it'll mix up the stars.....so u could see East guys play with West guys......well its a outrageous idea but it might bring some new life n interest.
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Postby Sauru on Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:19 am

lol god help us if the nba follows MLB nd makes the all star winner have home court in the finals.
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Postby Andrew on Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:43 am

Mixed All-Star teams would be an interesting concept. There would certainly be more balance between the two teams. But East vs West is the tradition, and it ensures equal representation from both conferences.
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Postby Sauru on Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:36 am

i hated the idea of USA vs world in the NHL and if the NBA went to it i would stop watching the all star game in basketball too. the nba is played in 2 divisions, east and west. if they maybe change it so americans are in 1 conference and all foreign players are in the other then i can see the all star game getting changed but otherwise its a bad idea imo. infact i rather see them change it to the MLB way and make it be for home court advantage in the finals instead of making it into a country conflict. there is already too much segregation in america for this crap in sports.
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