Here we go...
a person buying a ticket to a professional event is no more above the law then the professional athelete himself. i don't know what the laws are in england or spain, but in the u.s. throwing a bottle at someone is considered assault and is punishable by law.
That's interesting, because the last time I checked punching the shit out of someone is also considered assault and is punishable by law. I haven't had too much first hand experience in that though.
who cares how big or small the person is that's attacking you?
It does make a difference when the fan is some moderately overweight guy who is of normal structure. Up against either a 6'11 or a 6'7 athlete, who does weights every single day. It's like saying it'd be an even, or fair fight putting Mike Tyson up against someone with anorexia. Size does matter.
if someone's stupid enough to throw beer at someone, they are responsible for their own actions and the repurcussions. it's obvious the fans that threw the beer/bottles/etc would never do that if they were face to face w/any of the 3 pacers that punched the fans
They're responsible for their own actions, but the repurcussions were something completely unexpected. I know everyone's saying "oh well I'd do the same thing" etc etc, but there's a huge difference between someone throwing a bottle at you out in the street or whatever, and throwing a bottle in a sports stadium with tv camera's everywhere. They should be held responsible, but so should the players.
No. Because they didn't get anything thrown at them, even if they did, it didn't hit them.
Right, so you're saying if someone was sitting in the crowd screaming to Ron Artest that he's a "dirty nigger" or something he wouldn't have snapped? Give me a break.
As far as things not hitting people goes, soccer players get hit all the time. Only recently a referee got hit by a missile being thrown from the crowd.
that JO punch looked like it could knock down a frickin building, he almost knocked that guys head off holy jesus
who cares how big or small the person is that's attacking you?
You mean besides the guy who's got to take a punch from a 6'11 athlete?
Serves them right. You don't throw beer or bottles at anyone and expect them not to retaliate. Somtimes you get what you deserve...
I think that's subject to opinion. Not everyone would resort to violence straight off if something like that happened.
Jermaine was standing up for his teamates.
From what I've read in this thread, Jermaine didn't seem to be provoked in any way. He just decked the guy.
Was Artest forced to go kick ass? No, security could have handled it, but he chose and the others followed. It wasn't self defence, he could have simply moved away.
Absolutely. It's not as if his life was in danger from some 30 year old fat bloke who threw a water bottle at him. Either go back into the locker rooms or move to another place on the court. Simple. Running into the crowd and bashing someone should've probably been the last option to resort to.
OK, reply to my dumb comments, I won't even read your opinion because you can't be objective
Lol, this from the guy who put "ARTEST FAN 4 LIFE" in big bold letters after one of his posts.
O'Neal's last punch was great. He hit him right in the face, this fat hobo. I think Ben Wallace should be punished, and the whole Pistons team. Because the team has to stand for what the fans do.
Why? The team doesn't control the fans. By that reasoning, all Indiana fans should be punished aswell if any suspensions are handed down to their players. It doesn't work like that, and no, O'Neal's last punch was not "great". I don't know how many times you've been punched in the face, but it can do some serious damage to a person (David Hookes?) and with Jermaine being so big/strong it's highly likely that could've happened.
CambyMan Vol 3 You're a fuckin joke !! Quit hating on Detroit because of a incident that could have happened anywhere. There is a unwritten rule of going in the stands after fans.
Good one. We have one of the better discussions on this forum for a long time and you start throwing insults. Shut up.
Wallace is bigger but who knows what Artest could do.
I guess he does have that medical condition... what's it called again? Oh, being insane.
Anyways, if we can avoid the cheap shots at each other this could turn out to be a pretty good debate... too bad it's not on General Talk
What a pitty I missed that.
