Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:11 pm
[Q] wrote:Sauru wrote:they should just auction off the 12th man spot. who wants a ring? the spot goes to the highest bidder
Since they're over the cap, it'll be like the lowest bidder lol
Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:52 pm
Sauru wrote:[Q] wrote:Sauru wrote:they should just auction off the 12th man spot. who wants a ring? the spot goes to the highest bidder
Since they're over the cap, it'll be like the lowest bidder lol
dont even need to be a player in the nba just sign whoever you want for a free ring. bill murray 2018 nba champion
Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:57 pm
Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:54 am
Jeffx wrote:Fans complaining about "super-teams" need to study their NBA history - the 60s Celtics, the best Wilt teams, Magic's Lakers, Bird's Celtics, Jordan's Bulls - those teams were stacked like the Warriors. Shit, the 80s was great BECAUSE of the Lakers & Celtics playing in so many Finals. I love dynasties - it gives other teams something to shoot for. If you want to beat them, then these owners need to step up their game and run their franchises better (are you listening James Dolan & Phil Jackson)?
But I do agree Durant took the easy way out. He left a contender that should have beaten GS last year to join an already stacked team. That was disappointing. I wanted to see another Warrior-Thunder conference finals.
What do the Cavs need to beat the Warriors next season? At least 2 more TWO-WAY wing players. The cats they have now are useless on defense.
I don't have the link, but Samuel L. Jackson was roasting Deron Williams on Twitter.
Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:39 am
Sauru wrote:the celtics already did their part by not trading the number 1 pick. now its a matter of signing big name free agents which is not always easy for cold weather teams. also they really need to avoid giving thomas a max
Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:35 am
Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:59 am
hova- wrote:Am I the only one who feels like the level of contested shot making has increased to an amount were it feels hard to watch sometimes?
I mean, I was rooting for the Cavs in game 5 just to get a longer series, but at times it really made me go crazy to see well contested and defended shots go in - especially Durants shots.
Watching basketball and rooting for one team is always hard since you have zero influence on the game. But when you feel like your team does a good job defensively it is really disheartening.
Then again, some of the finishes around the rim by Lebron and Kyrie are simply breathtaking as well. I don't want to talk badly about the last decades (because I know we have a lot of nostalgic guys on the forum and I feel like some legends will never be reached by today's players), but in my opinion the game has risen to a different level in certain areas like shooting and finishing. (whereas defense and of course post game have become worse for example)
Any opinions?
Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:07 am
Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:10 am
NovU wrote:hova, How dare you!
Bird would be the best player over best player in today's league. Touching Jordan is insulting. They each could average 100 pts.
KD has no matching competitiveness, skillset. Neither has he mind of Bird. He's a loser.
Drexler > LBJ > KD, young generations should know this and I watch a lot of basketball.
Welcome back.
Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:11 am
Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:14 am
NovU wrote:Hyperbole my ass. It's exactly what you said in other thread. Keep lying to yourself young grasshopper.
Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:16 am
NovU wrote:hova, How dare you!
Bird would be the best player over best player in today's league. Touching Jordan is insulting. They each could average 100 pts.
KD has no matching competitiveness, skillset. Neither has he mind of Bird. He's a loser.
Drexler > LBJ > KD, young generations should know this and I watch a lot of basketball.
Welcome back.
Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:25 am
Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:38 am
hova- wrote:Am I the only one who feels like the level of contested shot making has increased to an amount were it feels hard to watch sometimes?
I mean, I was rooting for the Cavs in game 5 just to get a longer series, but at times it really made me go crazy to see well contested and defended shots go in - especially Durants shots.
Watching basketball and rooting for one team is always hard since you have zero influence on the game. But when you feel like your team does a good job defensively it is really disheartening.
Then again, some of the finishes around the rim by Lebron and Kyrie are simply breathtaking as well. I don't want to talk badly about the last decades (because I know we have a lot of nostalgic guys on the forum and I feel like some legends will never be reached by today's players), but in my opinion the game has risen to a different level in certain areas like shooting and finishing. (whereas defense and of course post game have become worse for example)
Any opinions?
Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:39 am
Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:01 am
Dee4Three wrote:Somebody did an article on something similar, check it out.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2471644-nba-then-and-now-would-yesterdays-legends-still-dominate-today
You mentioned Magic in the speed department, I completely disagree. If you watch footage of Magic, he flies up and down the floor. Same with say, the Blazers teams of 89-90 through 91-92, they are flying up and down the floor. That team was really ruggid as well (Have you seen Kersey and Buck Williams), they were strong as well. Magic would be perfectly fine running an NBA team in todays NBA, in my opinion. Even in 95-96, the chubbier Magic had no problem keeping up (After being retired since 91-92). He played some point and some PF that year.
Bird was more athletic than he is being given credit for, I don't see that Peja was anymore athletic than Bird on the floor. I feel Bird could keep up as well. Many of these guys were not JACKED, but they were really well conditioned. Wilt Chamberlain was an Olympic sprinter....
I think these players are more conditioned, and more athletic than you give them credit for.
You stated that you have 4 players on the floor nowadays that can actually run, play passing lanes, block shots etc... what am I missing? I see plenty of running and speed, and good defense.
Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:16 am
Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:22 am
Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:48 am
Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:52 am
Dee4Three wrote:Thank you for expanding a bit more.
The difference with Dirk now is he's actually old for the NBA, he intentionally got rail thin in order to prolong his career. Have you seen Dirk in 01-02, 02-03, 03-04? He flew up and down the court with ease. Dirk is just older now, that is completely different.
Bird and Peja athletic wise, skill wise Bird by a mile. Peja was not great in the post, Bird could turn and fade on anybody, and he had other moves down low, he was also a much better rebounder and could get his points that way, a higher basketball IQ in general. So yes, Pejas athleticism was fine for him to average mid 20 PPG in this league, Bird as a basketball player is far better. So Bird would be better than fine in this league.
Anybody, any era, has issues with Westbrook. Nobody can stay in front of Westbrook. Defensively on the guards in todays game, Magic would be perfectly fine in my opinion.
Again, thanks for expanding though.
You mention Adam Keefe and Bill Wennington, those were not average, they were not good at all. I can say NBA comparisons to them now would be a bench center like Jeff Withey and Jerami Grant for Keefe (Not saying playstyle). Keefe only started for one year of his career.
[Q] wrote:Nah Dirk in today's NBA would be a soft 3 point shooting camper like Anthony Tolliver. Playing before the dantoni/analytics era (let's face it, he started it) allowed Dirk to get stronger and work on his post game.
Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:53 am
[Q] wrote:Nah Dirk in today's NBA would be a soft 3 point shooting camper like Anthony Tolliver. Playing before the dantoni/analytics era (let's face it, he started it) allowed Dirk to get stronger and work on his post game.
Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:56 am
you could just hack on defense which made it easier for cheap defenders to be hidden
Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:13 am
Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:37 am
Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:51 am
shadowgrin wrote:If Nash could win 2 consecutive MVP with the new (now current) rules then I have no doubt that Bird would at least be an all-star every season today.you could just hack on defense which made it easier for cheap defenders to be hidden
Players who have less than satisfactory defense can be hidden in today's game too.
Stick that player to guarding the corner or wing and have him help out on the occasional double team when the ball goes to the post. Similar to how the Celtics did with Isaiah Thomas.