U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! NEW 2019 ROSTER! 14th December

[slimm44]

Would anybody mind checking some files for me to make sure the information looks right?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxjZW ... mFYR01kNFU

I'm not sure what kind of work (if any) Sko will need to do to these but my work in updating the 2017 files is done. Please check players on teams from Philly through Washington and let me know how it looks.

Don't know but there seems to be a few players missing from the current roster such as Chasson Randle; Shawn Long; David Nwaba; Jarred Uthoff

Could be. Sko adds players. I edit play types, sig skills, ratings, and tendencies.

That being said, Chasson Randle has played 10 minutes per game for 230 total minutes, Shawn Long has played 13 minutes per game for 198 total minutes, David Nwaba has played 18 minutes per game for 315 total minutes, and Jarred Uthoff has played 7 minutes per game for 28 total minutes. I'm assuming those are all rookies or very young players who are getting some burn at the end of the season and/or are getting some burn because of injuries. IMO, they don't even qualify as being rotation guys and definitely haven't played enough minutes to be assigned realistic ratings and tendencies. If Sko did create them, I would apply template information to them and they would be TURRIBLE.

[MilkTheClock]

I get it, I was just comparing yours and Skoadams project to Medevenx's and yours is, with all due respect to Med, way more complex in terms of players, teams, tendencies etc. I wish you the best of luck in your long lasting project

[slimm44]

I don't know his methods of determining ratings/tendencies but I would tip my hat to him in terms of overall players he's added. I'm sure he has the guys you mentioned as he always does a great job of making sure he can fit in as many of that type of player as possible.

Thanks for the kind words, man!

[MilkTheClock]

No problem, i'm sure everybody appreciates the work you, Sko and Med do to keep this game alive, props to you guys!

[che]

Just wanna say the mod is great fun and preventing me from getting newer games, so thank you!

May I ask what do you mean by "elite roster" ? Is it a roster full of best players from each team, or will you inform us due time?

It is the 5 best teams from the 60's, the 10 best teams from the 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's, and 10's, along with the top 40 players who were not included on teams in the roster file.

It's the best of the best.

1961 Hawks
1963 Celtics
1965 Lakers
1967 76ers
1967 Warriors
1971 Bucks
1972 Lakers
1973 Knicks
1974 Celtics
1974 Nets (ABA)
1975 Kentucky Colonels (ABA)
1975 Warriors
1977 Trailblazers
1978 Bullets
1979 Sonics
1980 Lakers
1982 Spurs
1983 76ers
1985 Lakers
1986 Bucks
1986 Celtics
1986 Rockets
1987 Hawks
1989 Pistons
1989 Suns
1991 Trailblazers
1993 Bulls
1993 Suns
1994 Knicks
1995 Magic
1995 Rockets
1996 Bulls
1996 Sonics
1998 Jazz
1999 Spurs
2000 Lakers
2001 76ers
2002 Kings
2002 Nets
2003 Spurs
2004 Detroit
2006 Heat
2007 Suns
2008 Celtics
2009 Lakers
2011 Bulls
2011 Mavs
2012 Heat
2012 Thunder
2014 Clippers
2014 Pacers
2014 Spurs
2015 GSW
2017 Cavs
2017 GSW

Free Agent List

Alex English
Alvin Robertson
Baron Davis
Bernard King
Bob Lanier
Bob Love
Bob McAdoo
Brad Daugherty
Calvin Murphy
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Mullin
Connie Hawkins
Dave Bing
David Thompson
Derrick Coleman
Dwight Howard
Elton Brand
George McGinnis
Gilbert Arenas
Grant Hill
Jack Twyman
Jamal Mashburn
Jermaine O'Neal
Joe Johnson
Kevin Porter
Larry Johnson
Mark Jackson
Mitch Richmond
Nate Thurmond
Norm Van Lier
Pete Maravich
Reggie Miller
Stephon Marbury
Tim Hardaway
Tiny Archibald
Tracy McGrady
Vince Carter
Walt Bellamy
World B. Free
Yao Ming
Zelmo Beaty

- will it contain a version of peak Admiral (94-96) or is 99 Robinson the best one in there?
- same question for 04 Garnett.
- Would you consider adding Brandon Roy to the FA pool? He is much better than guys like Starbury, Mashburn or Iso Joe.
- to me 16 GSW is much better than 15 GSW, especially Curry himself. That team was unlucky to have Curry injured in the playoffs and playing vs a much better finals opponent.

thanks.

[slimm44]

94-96 Robinson and 04 Garnett won't be in there because their teams just weren't good enough and they are already in the project (albeit different years). In this project, we are minimizing having duplicate players and we are also only including the best of the best teams.

I would consider adding Roy to the FA pool. I'd be open to hearing other players that could be added to the FA pool, also. When picking the FA list, I looked at basketball-reference.com's top 100 or 500 list and picked the players from the top 100 that weren't already in the project. I won't add FA that would be a duplicate of a player who is already on a team.

In what ways do you feel 16 GSW was better than 15 GSW?

[che]

94-96 Robinson and 04 Garnett won't be in there because their teams just weren't good enough and they are already in the project (albeit different years). In this project, we are minimizing having duplicate players and we are also only including the best of the best teams.

I see, fair enough. Are you dead set with the 01 76ers & 02 Nets over the 04 Pacers, 03/06/07 Mavs and the 04 Wolves? I'm really happy you choose the 07 Suns over 05.

I would consider adding Roy to the FA pool. I'd be open to hearing other players that could be added to the FA pool, also. When picking the FA list, I looked at basketball-reference.com's top 100 or 500 list and picked the players from the top 100 that weren't already in the project. I won't add FA that would be a duplicate of a player who is already on a team.

Mark Price, A. Sabonis & Mike Finley could be good candidates for the FA list. Maybe you also want to consider Zo Mourning & Ginobili (+ Jalen Rose & Steve Smith as lesser players). They are already in there and Manu probably 3x even but either way too young or too old and never close to their primes (if player ratings are based on that one season only). Brad Miller is another one who could be added to the list, not a star by any means but a good player with a different style (love passing Cs).

Those are all players I like and personally would want to see in the roster. The list looks really comprehensive and I can't think of any big names missing.

In what ways do you feel 16 GSW was better than 15 GSW?

I f memory serves right it was Internal improvement & role changes that made them a more dominant team.

Green became the main playmaker (look at his assist numbers) and Curry became more aggressive with his shot and dominated on a higher level than before (in the regular season). Their offensive style changed as they took even more advantage of Curry's shooting and became a better team as a result, a development that has since been reversed with the addition of Durant.
If that change in playing style is not reflected in the ratings & tendencies though, it won't matter which year is chosen.

[MilkTheClock]

Will this elite roster be playable in blacktop. Would love to see me some Wilt to Shaq action 1v1

[slimm44]

I have no idea if it will be playable in blacktop mode. Sko takes care of what modes it will be playable in and I haven't talked to him in a week or more.

I think we could add those FA (as long as there is room in the file, which there should be.) I'd need to compare the ratings/sig skills between 2015 and 2016 GSW to see how much difference they would make from year to year. I can calculate the 2015 GSW information in about 10 minutes and I have already changed the 2016 roster to season specific information. I'll let you know the differences in-game.

I'm not really dead set on the 2001 76ers being in over those other squads but the other squads didn't make the finals and the 76ers did. Besides, they had Iverson in his absolute prime that year and he was (at least arguably) a better overall player than anybody on the other squads (aside from possibly prime KG on that 04 Timberwolves squad). IMO, that 01 76ers squad is also the most iconic of those teams. You can offer some arguments on their behalf but I doubt I'll change my mind.

[che]

The 76ers are surely more popular than the other teams and more iconic than the not-so-exiciting Wolves & Pacers butI'm not so sure about the 06 Mavs. The 2006 Western Conference Semi-Finals vs San Antonio is the highest quality series that any of these teams have played and at least as iconic as 76ers-Raptors in 01 and the Conference Finals vs Phoenix that year are not far behind. Dirk's team had a legendary run through the WC in 06. I have to say I don't know Philly & Indiana too well but I strongly believe the Wolves and the three Mavs teams were better than them at basketball. In 2001, the Western Conferece sports 4 teams that certainly beat the Sixers (Lakers, Blazers, Kings, Spurs) and 2 that have a good chance to do so (Mavs, Wolves). The 03 Mavs & 04 Wolves had good chances at a championship (better chances than Philly) and went out due to playoff injuries to key players. The 06 Mavs were as successful as the 76ers but are probably an afterthought in people's minds due to the way they lost the finals while Philly was heralded for winning that one game as huge underdogs, handing the Lakers their only playoff loss that year. 07 Mavs are weird due to suffering that historic upset but were a great team in the regular season. I mentioned them (and 16 GSW) because I care more about quality than success. 03 Mavs might even be similarily iconic as the 76ers, representing the wild Don Nelson years with great offense in stark contrast to the rather ugly game the Sixers played.

Dirk & KG are two of my favorite players and I don't really like Iverson's game so I'm biased here but I'm confident both of them are clearly superior players and I can go into detail if you want. Iverson has that lone-offensive-star-carries-a-bad-team-to-surprising-success story in his bag which is always great publicity and comparable to this year's Thunder, 06 Lakers, and early years of Jordan & Lebron (2015 finals even, considering injuries). KG and David Robinson also carried similarily bad teams to 50 win seasons but never reached the finals until they got better teammates and usually played better opponents but found success with defense & teamplay rather than as lone gunners so they don't get the same kind of stories written. I'd always take the player who can improve an already good team rather than one who carries a bad team to mediocrity. Some even consider Iverson's peak (impact-wise) to be with the Nuggets due to a more efficient & team-oriented playing style and I'm inclined to agree. How do you go about building a great team with 01 AI or 17 Westbrook without changing how they play? But I'm getting off on a tangent here. [ok, that was too harsh on Westbrook]

In the end Dirk & KG already have teams in your list, even if they're past their physical peaks in those years and Iverson had that iconic year with team success and a memorable playoff series. I wouldn't choose the Sixers (or Nets) but won't say it's wrong to do so.

[slimm44]

The 76ers are surely more popular than the other teams and more iconic than the not-so-exiciting Wolves & Pacers butI'm not so sure about the 06 Mavs. The 2006 Western Conference Semi-Finals vs San Antonio is the highest quality series that any of these teams have played and at least as iconic as 76ers-Raptors in 01 and the Conference Finals vs Phoenix that year are not far behind. Dirk's team had a legendary run through the WC in 06. I have to say I don't know Philly & Indiana too well but I strongly believe the Wolves and the three Mavs teams were better than them at basketball. In 2001, the Western Conferece sports 4 teams that certainly beat the Sixers (Lakers, Blazers, Kings, Spurs) and 2 that have a good chance to do so (Mavs, Wolves). The 03 Mavs & 04 Wolves had good chances at a championship (better chances than Philly) and went out due to playoff injuries to key players. The 06 Mavs were as successful as the 76ers but are probably an afterthought in people's minds due to the way they lost the finals while Philly was heralded for winning that one game as huge underdogs, handing the Lakers their only playoff loss that year. 07 Mavs are weird due to suffering that historic upset but were a great team in the regular season. I mentioned them (and 16 GSW) because I care more about quality than success. 03 Mavs might even be similarily iconic as the 76ers, representing the wild Don Nelson years with great offense in stark contrast to the rather ugly game the Sixers played.

Dirk & KG are two of my favorite players and I don't really like Iverson's game so I'm biased here but I'm confident both of them are clearly superior players and I can go into detail if you want. Iverson has that lone-offensive-star-carries-a-bad-team-to-surprising-success story in his bag which is always great publicity and comparable to this year's Thunder, 06 Lakers, and early years of Jordan & Lebron (2015 finals even, considering injuries). KG and David Robinson also carried similarily bad teams to 50 win seasons but never reached the finals until they got better teammates and usually played better opponents but found success with defense & teamplay rather than as lone gunners so they don't get the same kind of stories written. I'd always take the player who can improve an already good team rather than one who carries a bad team to mediocrity. Some even consider Iverson's peak (impact-wise) to be with the Nuggets due to a more efficient & team-oriented playing style and I'm inclined to agree. How do you go about building a great team with 01 AI or 17 Westbrook without changing how they play? But I'm getting off on a tangent here.

In the end Dirk & KG already have teams in your list, even if they're past their physical peaks in those years and Iverson had that iconic year with team success and a memorable playoff series. I wouldn't choose the Sixers (or Nets) but won't say it's wrong to do so.

I gotta say, regardless of what team goes in the roster, this is a fun conversation. Thanks, Che.

I think what I'm going to do is apply season-specific edits to those teams and see which one is best. I have a little work to do on the 1987 roster and I'll get to those teams. When I responded earlier, I completely forgot the 06 Mavs. Also, keep in mind that any new teams or replacements will be done by Sko and I'm not sure what he'll be willing to do.

[slimm44]

I just downloaded some retro rosters that have been edited to season-specific information.

[MilkTheClock]

Any news on the release date or such? I'm assuming it's near

[slimm44]

For the Elite roster it's going to be some time. Sko told me he probably won't be able to touch it until May (he's insanely busy with work). I am working on updating all of the rosters from 1985 to 2017 to season-specific information while I wait for him. I still need to calculate all the subjective and athletic information for all players from 1960-1984.

[christophlin]

Love this mod, and particularly the NCAA rosters. Is anyone else seeing the "UK" logo show up for the Florida Gators when playing in game (i.e. the "UK" logo is showing up on the small scoreboard instead of Florida's logo)?

I'm seeing this for both NBA 2K13 and 2K14. There were a few posts back in 2016 about this, but not sure if there was a fix, or if I'm doing something wrong. Thanks!

[Dee4Three]

Hey all, not sure if anybody can help, but it's worth a try.

I had somebody include like 8 or 9 new classic teams into the URB base (pre 84-85 teams). However, when they put the teams in, they did not include those teams logos, and many of the players have the black arm issue. Also, the teams before the introduction of the 3 point line, don't have a 3 point line.

Any chance if I send someone this roster, they could incorporate the correct logos for those teams, as well as fix the black arm issue? I could actually tackle the court issue myself.

If not, I totally understand, just figured I would throw it out there and ask. I was considering starting a Ultimate Best Teams Association and broadcasting it/or starting a thread with videos on it.

Thanks for considering!

[Dee4Three]

Put together some Random URB highlights, just messing around.

Some good ones though. I'm actually proud of my block with Drexler, because we all know that its tough to get blocks in this game.

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[christophlin]

Put together some Random URB highlights, just messing around.

Some good ones though. I'm actually proud of my block with Drexler, because we all know that its tough to get blocks in this game.

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Wow that looks great, thanks for sharing! If you don't mind me asking -- do you use any particular visual enhancements, aside from the Global that is included with the URB files? I've been trying out different SweetFX combos, but can't seem to find one that looks as good as yours.

[Dee4Three]

Put together some Random URB highlights, just messing around.

Some good ones though. I'm actually proud of my block with Drexler, because we all know that its tough to get blocks in this game.

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Wow that looks great, thanks for sharing! If you don't mind me asking -- do you use any particular visual enhancements, aside from the Global that is included with the URB files? I've been trying out different SweetFX combos, but can't seem to find one that looks as good as yours.

Well it's a funny story....

This is actually with the default global from the game, no graphics mods, with the game maxed out. I've always been about using globals made by the amazing modders on here (SJ, Lagoa, etc), but I went back to the default one for the more natural look of it. Sometimes I like to put things back to default in order to appreciate the original product.

Of course, the game is still modded to the teeth with the scoreboard, courts, cyberfaces, stadiums etc that have been supplied by the URB, but yeah... just the default.

[shems]

Hi guys, great work, but I noticed the 1989 draft class has all the wrong players now. They are all computer generated players now, I noticed before it was the correct players in the past. Something must of changed with one of the updates.

[MadbaLL]

@slimm

what is your personal preference about 2k13 and 2k14 mod, on which game do you prefer to play it, i mean which do you think brings best of urb in terms of realism?

[Dee4Three]

@slimm

what is your personal preference about 2k13 and 2k14 mod, on which game do you prefer to play it, i mean which do you think brings best of urb in terms of realism?

I know you are not asking me, but I'll give my opinion... because I have a strong one.

NBA 2K14 has one advantage over 2k13 in my opinion, Shot blocking. Otherwise, NBA 2K13 was superior. The dribbling moves, the offensive moves in general, are more realistic and you can do more in 2K13. You can drop step dunk, and spin move dunk in NBA 2K13, you can't in 2k14.

So, I choose 2k13 overall, 2k13 would be complete if it had good shot blocking.

[MadbaLL]

@slimm

what is your personal preference about 2k13 and 2k14 mod, on which game do you prefer to play it, i mean which do you think brings best of urb in terms of realism?

I know you are not asking me, but I'll give my opinion... because I have a strong one.

NBA 2K14 has one advantage over 2k13 in my opinion, Shot blocking. Otherwise, NBA 2K13 was superior. The dribbling moves, the offensive moves in general, are more realistic and you can do more in 2K13. You can drop step dunk, and spin move dunk in NBA 2K13, you can't in 2k14.

So, I choose 2k13 overall, 2k13 would be complete if it had good shot blocking.

every useful answer is more than welcome

[PatTheHead]

2K13 has the full package.
all 70 NBA seasons from 1946 to 2016. includes 70 draft classes as well.

[Dee4Three]

Here is what I think happened with 2K14.....

They were gearing towards next gen at that point, and we basically got the simplified controls that was given to the first version of next gen 2k. Now... I will say... graphically NBA 2K14 next gen is my favorite, but they dumbed down the offensive repertoire for that game. I still like 2K14, but it is not as complete.