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Sat Jan 17, 2004 9:09 am
Conversations can do that. But you should read it because it answers a lot of people's unasked questions about athleticism and race.
Sat Jan 17, 2004 9:20 am
This may be one of the most interesting threads I have ever read on the NLSC. Very interesting theories being tossed around. Hopefully someone can find some links to back up them up. Butt muscles?? come on..
Sat Jan 17, 2004 3:03 pm
EGarrett wrote:Let me answer this.
In fact...this is going to seem weird but there is no genetic difference between black people and white people at all.
i know for a fact that Black ppl and White ppl have a different pelvic bone structure, so that may not be the only difference. And there's also a race that has thicker skulls than white ppl
Sat Jan 17, 2004 9:05 pm
The fact is that Blacks are usually better dunkers than Whites. The reason is certainly not biological, but more social. In a general way, Black people live in poorer conditions than White people. So Blacks invest more in sports to try to find the "exit" of a certain kind of poverty.
It's only a trend, I don't want to generalize to everyone.
Sat Jan 17, 2004 9:09 pm
#12 wrote:this thread went from Earl Boykin dunks to racism
And it's all because of me
Anyway, I wish that there is no biological differens between differens races.
It would suck bigtime if it was a fact that black people jumps higher.
Sat Jan 17, 2004 10:34 pm
stack42 wrote:i know for a fact that Black ppl and White ppl have a different pelvic bone structure, so that may not be the only difference. And there's also a race that has thicker skulls than white ppl
Nick wrote:Yer it's true cos they have some stronger or extra muscles in their buns which give them more explosion when jumping.
Statements like these are exactly why I took it upon myself to answer this question. These ideas were created by ignorance and xenophobia. They also make me very angry. I hope both of you guys read this thread and some of the links and make an effort to understand the ways things really are instead of spreading ideas like this.
(If this is offensive I apologize...I'm commenting on the idea...which someone obviously incorrectly told you...instead of you as people.)
Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:54 am
I saw on the history channel that archeologist with the help of biologist were able to excavate bones of the "first americans" and compare them with asians to see how long it took for them to differ in race. Sorry i cant be more scientific about it...but i do believe science is advance enough to tell the different between races by bone structure or whatever the case may be.
While environment does play a major role in not only the personality but physical conditioning of a family or a race...i think it has been proven that the genetics of these things can be also passed on. Now if blacks have adapted over time to be more athletic since our times in africa...and that eventually makes us "evolve" into a better physical conditioning..then doesnt mean that blacks are being born with that prowess?
Life for the modern day black is nothing like what it was used to be during slavery. Some of us laze around in the inner cities and dont do anything but sit on our asses...yet we're still so good at sports. So in essence if you raise that point..it would be fair to say that blacks are born like that generally.
In closing, I dont know about where you guys are from but i see it everyday. Guys who have never played a lick of sports in their lives but when they get on the court..or start running...they jump unbelievably high..even though they cant do anything else...or run very fast. I see this more often in my black peers than i do in other races..including latinos. This was the case for myself also...while i wasn't the highest jumper...being able to dunk at 6 foot tall is something i used to feel proud of. I think thats where the "stereotype" comes from..it comes from people's experiences. If that experience is shared amoung many people...then it becomes a stereotype.
Sun Jan 18, 2004 5:22 am
i luv this thread
Sun Jan 18, 2004 7:27 am
Earl Boykins can DUNK End of Discussion
Chris Andersen can Dunk
Brent Barry did a Free Throw Line dunk
Mark madsen di a Free Throw dunk almost at the Bieginning of the season (And he broke out into a Dance and RAPPED

)
Some guy named Marko Milicic dunked over a CAR!
these are white people here!!!!!!!
END OF DISCUSSION!!!!!!!!!!!
Sun Jan 18, 2004 10:09 am
Thanks for that wonderful insight, Old School Fool....
Sun Jan 18, 2004 1:09 pm
Mr. Shane wrote:Thanks for that wonderful insight, Old School Fool....

WOW...
nice one OSF
Sun Jan 18, 2004 2:27 pm
EGarrett- Thank you for your last post

; that is what was bothering me the most about this thread!........................ Some people are still ignorant about race, and others are still being taught to be ignorant.
The rest is just harmless discussion.
David
Fri Jan 23, 2004 10:01 am
wangster wrote:When it's Darius Miles saying a 5 foot 5 guy can dunk, it sort of puts things in perspective.
I didn't understand at all your phrase. What do you mean exactly?
Fri Jan 23, 2004 11:26 am
This is wat i found today....
go to nba.com and RBK All-access...I can't paste it- dont know why but its a question bout Earl if he can dunk....and they're interviewing 5 guys....Glen Rice thinks he can, Moochie doubts it...but D Mason, Q Rich and Arron Williams say its possible but theyll have to see it to believe it...
Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:28 pm
http://www.nba.com/allaccess/roundtable_040122.html
Reportedly, Earl Boykins can dunk. Do you believe it? Have you seen him dunk?
Desmond Mason: "I haven’t seen him do it and I don’t believe it. I’d have to see him do it to believe it. But T.J. Ford can dunk. You might not know that."
Moochie Norris: "Doughnuts and Milk. Doughnuts and Milk. If he can dunk, I might have the ball boy dunk for me."
Glen Rice: "He probably can do a one-hand dunk. I believe it."
Quentin Richardson: "I wouldn't be surprised. Earl's unbelievable, but I haven't seen him do it."
Aaron Williams: "I'll believe it when I see it."
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