-this is for the diehard LIVE fans- what if allthings change

[Mr.Funk]

i just want to know, what if EA turn to the "right" direction, and make SIM b-ball game for the REST OF THE FRANCHISE? i don't know the reason you guys like this game, yes, its fun. and i'm assuming you people don't like the real life pistons, cause you can easily drop 150 in this game. is that the reason you like the LIVE franchise? just hardcore offense? or do you hate the NBA in general, and love "And 1" and streetball? where you can break down Artest with "the Answer" and dunk in the face of the adversity,"The Fro" with "vinsanity" everytime you touches the ball? if your answer to any of these questions is yes, then you will hate the change.
you love Arcade basketball!

but if you love a challenging game, not just match the cpu on every basket, but a challenge in making a basket for yourself and the cpu; and actually play some team basketball, getting the whole team invole, not just score 60% of the points with Carter, calling plays, and see the cpu call plays; where playing smart team basketball and defense is essential; with real fatigue--where if you try to play one on one for the entire game, you're guarrantee to lose. if you like the sound of this, then change is neede,
you're a SIM freak?

[Drex]

Most of the guys who buy the game are people who want to dunk on Shaq and Big Ben 75% of the time. The other 25% they want to shoot 3's in yo' face and shit. That's why that change won't happen in at least 3 years, IMO.

[Mr.Funk]

but don't you think doing the samethings over and over, will get repetitive every soon? what make the 360s from carter, the ankle breaking crossovers from iverson, the chow dropping passes from kidd, the monster blocks from ben, the "me dunk on your face" from carter, the electrifying reverse from kobe, and the bombs in your face by paja, is that it only HAPPENS ONCE IN WHILE. thats why its call spectacular plays. if we see these move every 5 minutes of the game, then its completely boring by now, cause these plays have been around since the magic/bird era--it got repetitive sort to say. and if it happens so easily, then its not much to watch anywheres.

[Its_asdf]

Drex was refering to most of the general fans of the game, where as most people in this forum (the intelligent ones anyway,) probably are more satisfied with simulation basketball.

[black man]

I don't think EA would actually lose anything by making the game realistic. You can have the spectacular stuff while keeping it realistic. But I always thought that the arcade option was for the fantasy fun type stuff.

[flipz]

Live is a 2 for one deal, its Arcade/Sim depending on the users, my sliders are giving me crazy realistic stats

[Null17]

i just want to know, what if EA turn to the "right" direction, and make SIM b-ball game for the REST OF THE FRANCHISE? i don't know the reason you guys like this game, yes, its fun. and i'm assuming you people don't like the real life pistons, cause you can easily drop 150 in this game. is that the reason you like the LIVE franchise? just hardcore offense? or do you hate the NBA in general, and love "And 1" and streetball? where you can break down Artest with "the Answer" and dunk in the face of the adversity,"The Fro" with "vinsanity" everytime you touches the ball? if your answer to any of these questions is yes, then you will hate the change.
you love Arcade basketball!

but if you love a challenging game, not just match the cpu on every basket, but a challenge in making a basket for yourself and the cpu; and actually play some team basketball, getting the whole team invole, not just score 60% of the points with Carter, calling plays, and see the cpu call plays; where playing smart team basketball and defense is essential; with real fatigue--where if you try to play one on one for the entire game, you're guarrantee to lose. if you like the sound of this, then change is neede,
you're a SIM freak?

problem is really...there are a lot of casual fans who buy this game that like the dunkfest. They outnumber those who want a more realistic game. Some of us just don't have a choice since we're playing on PC and there is nothing else. Some are also satisfied by just adjusting sliders while others curse NBA Live and EA Sports to death.

[Wormy10]

I wouldnt say Arcade "For Life" but it does have its advantages
I just wish there was a way to combine the two

[tongefactor40]

I wouldnt say Arcade "For Life" but it does have its advantages
I just wish there was a way to combine the two

why dont they just make a couple different modes? how hard could it be? but then again ea doesnt really like to work on their games, and something tells me they dont even like basketball, or football for that matter - another game that they dropped the ball in this year.

ea needs to stop dragging their feet

[Andrew]

The way I see it, NBA Live is still a simulation at heart, I think it endeavours to be a simulation but the problem is, they're currently trying to find a balance between realism and fun, with the "fun" elements coming at the expense of realism. I think NBA Live 2003 is a good example of that way of thinking going awry.

But no argument from me. I prefer sim to arcade style, so I'm all for the balance moving away from "fun" in favour of realism.

[flipz]

The way I see it, NBA Live is still a simulation at heart, I think it endeavours to be a simulation but the problem is, they're currently trying to find a balance between realism and fun, with the "fun" elements coming at the expense of realism. I think NBA Live 2003 is a good example of that way of thinking going awry.

But no argument from me. I prefer sim to arcade style, so I'm all for the balance moving away from "fun" in favour of realism.

EXACTLY....the same ppl who say the game is arcade are those who attempt 50-60shots with their fave player and complain afterwards, live06 is some real fucking sim wit sliders,how many ppl actually involve the bench players?how many ppl constantly pull on the L trigger waitin to dunk on every possession ,playcalling?midrange? ...but seriously tho,outta the box,EA didnt give the users some good sliders,but then again some ppl have userspeed set at 75 ,i wonder how dats supposed to be sim

[Andrew]

Well there is that element too. If all the human player ever does is attempt dunks, they can't really complain that the game has too many dunks. But ideally, the default sliders and the gameplay should be geared much more towards realism.

[Laxation]

Most of the guys who buy the game are people who want to dunk on Shaq and Big Ben 75% of the time. The other 25% they want to shoot 3's in yo' face and shit. That's why that change won't happen in at least 3 years, IMO.

good call... its 0-15

i hope that EA buys outs ESPN like they did with madden so they can do one good game instead of fucking around with bullshit

[Mr.Funk]

The way I see it, NBA Live is still a simulation at heart, I think it endeavours to be a simulation but the problem is, they're currently trying to find a balance between realism and fun, with the "fun" elements coming at the expense of realism. I think NBA Live 2003 is a good example of that way of thinking going awry.

But no argument from me. I prefer sim to arcade style, so I'm all for the balance moving away from "fun" in favour of realism.

ok, this don't make any sense, people on this forum always say "we only only have two choice, either real OR fun". c'mon people, real IS fun if you're for sim. you either think arcade is fun or sim is fun, if you prefer sim over arcade then realism will be fun. but if you hate getting your jumshots miss 50-60% of the time and having a hard time getting to the basket, then real wouldn't be fun for you.

but i say to you, how many of you people buy a game(any game), and just beat it at a medium level and go on with your life? not much i'm hoping. if there's a hall of fame difficulty, then you would want to conquor it. even for micheal jordan, when the NBA seems too easy for him, he retired. so if you find making a basket is so hard, you just give up, and find a short cut and make dunks everytime, then you're not mastering anything the game has to offer, NBA or virtual NBA. PLAY SMART, AND FIND THAT OPEN SHOT!

[Drex]

good call... its 0-15

Huh?

[Malfa]

If you wanna play arcade gtfo and go play nba street. Make this game sim EA!

[Mr.Funk]

OK, someone smack me on my head, cause this is getting wired, this is a live forum and you guys have LIVE 06, the arcade version . i was expecting everyone to vote no, but i have 20 approves to zero and everyone posting to have their voice be heard for "democratic" changes.

really, for does who vote yes, and have posted their opinions and complaints about the game and how it should be, tell why you guys buy it?

[Malfa]

Because, it's the best basketball game out right now. I don't like it all that much..but it's all we got. I would rather play this then anything else. But I also would hella rather have a SIM game not arcade shit.

[dada]

i agree. i hate the arcade fel to it. id rather walk it up the court and get in some half court sets and grind out the game. thats why most of the time i play with player lock on the point guard but i only wished that the other guys on the team even played remotely close to their real life counterparts. the fancy dunks, layups and moves are cool but thats not gonna happen very often in a real nba game.

[Mr.Funk]

forgive me when i say NBA 2k6 is a SIM! live06 and 2k6 are completely different games, one arcade the other sim. if you "just like but", don't like, WTF, or absolutely hate live06, cause it suck or its arcade, then let 2k6 lead you to the LIGHT . the two games are so different to the point where its like a cross town baseball rival of the Cubs and White Sox(champs of the world), if you love one, you hate the other!
if you hate both, then you hate the NBA(2k) and basketball(EAa) or you have a problem...........and you don't need to be in houston

[Andrew]

ok, this don't make any sense, people on this forum always say "we only only have two choice, either real OR fun". c'mon people, real IS fun if you're for sim. you either think arcade is fun or sim is fun, if you prefer sim over arcade then realism will be fun. but if you hate getting your jumshots miss 50-60% of the time and having a hard time getting to the basket, then real wouldn't be fun for you.

but i say to you, how many of you people buy a game(any game), and just beat it at a medium level and go on with your life? not much i'm hoping. if there's a hall of fame difficulty, then you would want to conquor it. even for micheal jordan, when the NBA seems too easy for him, he retired. so if you find making a basket is so hard, you just give up, and find a short cut and make dunks everytime, then you're not mastering anything the game has to offer, NBA or virtual NBA. PLAY SMART, AND FIND THAT OPEN SHOT!

Allow me to clarify. By "fun", I'm referring to elements that would make the game fun for the casual gamer or someone not all that interested in realism. I think the current aim is to balance the game between being realistic and being appealing for the general gamer and those of us who want as much realism as possible suffer as a result.

Absolutely, it can be fun and realistic. That's how I feel about a realistic basketball game. But when I say "fun", I'm talking about gearing the game towards the general user, the casual basketball/sports fan looking for a basketball game filled with dunks and whatnot.

[flipz]

forgive me when i say NBA 2k6 is a SIM! live06 and 2k6 are completely different games, one arcade the other sim. if you "just like but", don't like, WTF, or absolutely hate live06, cause it suck or its arcade, then let 2k6 lead you to the LIGHT . the two games are so different to the point where its like a cross town baseball rival of the Cubs and White Sox(champs of the world), if you love one, you hate the other!
if you hate both, then you hate the NBA(2k) and basketball(EAa) or you have a problem...........and you don't need to be in houston

u back again johhnyboy ,welcome 2kfanboy ,ur antics aare quite recognizable, if u wanna straight up diss the game, go ahead and stop weaving ur way through, save us the time plz

[Mr.Funk]

forgive me when i say NBA 2k6 is a SIM! live06 and 2k6 are completely different games, one arcade the other sim. if you "just like but", don't like, WTF, or absolutely hate live06, cause it suck or its arcade, then let 2k6 lead you to the LIGHT . the two games are so different to the point where its like a cross town baseball rival of the Cubs and White Sox(champs of the world), if you love one, you hate the other!
if you hate both, then you hate the NBA(2k) and basketball(EAa) or you have a problem...........and you don't need to be in houston

u back again johhnyboy ,welcome 2kfanboy ,ur antics aare quite recognizable, if u wanna straight up diss the game, go ahead and stop weaving ur way through, save us the time plz

when i started this thread, i have no intention of bringing up 2k6, because i was expecting every to vote no, and stick with LIVE being arcade. but that was never the case, as you can see 24 approve to zero, and all the complaints from the posters saying the game being arcade............and i have said this many times before, what you like, LIVE or 2k, arcade or sim, is your opinion, and 2k is sim while live is arcade is the facts. but everyone is complaing that they hate "the best game" being arcade, like they don't know about 2k being a sim. you know how ironic that sounds? don't you think its just logical to try something that have your personnality and likes written all over the cover? or just try something else(cause there are options) if you hate what you have?

[Mr.Funk]

ok, this don't make any sense, people on this forum always say "we only only have two choice, either real OR fun". c'mon people, real IS fun if you're for sim. you either think arcade is fun or sim is fun, if you prefer sim over arcade then realism will be fun. but if you hate getting your jumshots miss 50-60% of the time and having a hard time getting to the basket, then real wouldn't be fun for you.

but i say to you, how many of you people buy a game(any game), and just beat it at a medium level and go on with your life? not much i'm hoping. if there's a hall of fame difficulty, then you would want to conquor it. even for micheal jordan, when the NBA seems too easy for him, he retired. so if you find making a basket is so hard, you just give up, and find a short cut and make dunks everytime, then you're not mastering anything the game has to offer, NBA or virtual NBA. PLAY SMART, AND FIND THAT OPEN SHOT!

Allow me to clarify. By "fun", I'm referring to elements that would make the game fun for the casual gamer or someone not all that interested in realism. I think the current aim is to balance the game between being realistic and being appealing for the general gamer and those of us who want as much realism as possible suffer as a result.

Absolutely, it can be fun and realistic. That's how I feel about a realistic basketball game. But when I say "fun", I'm talking about gearing the game towards the general user, the casual basketball/sports fan looking for a basketball game filled with dunks and whatnot.

i think i would have to agree with you on that, since EA have out sell 2k year after year. but again, why? why do you have to suffer, there are options, hello 2k6? and to FLIPZ, no, i'm not promoting 2k6 or insulting live, ANDREW clearly is a sim fan, and there is A FCKIN SIM GAME FOR YOU. for those who think about arcade sucks, why buy live in the first places, again FLIPZ, i'm not freakin bashing live, ok, all i'm saying is there is a different game for eveyone. you know how stupid it is for someone to buy this when they know that will be better fit for him?

[flipz]

forgive me when i say NBA 2k6 is a SIM! live06 and 2k6 are completely different games, one arcade the other sim. if you "just like but", don't like, WTF, or absolutely hate live06, cause it suck or its arcade, then let 2k6 lead you to the LIGHT . the two games are so different to the point where its like a cross town baseball rival of the Cubs and White Sox(champs of the world), if you love one, you hate the other!
if you hate both, then you hate the NBA(2k) and basketball(EAa) or you have a problem...........and you don't need to be in houston

u back again johhnyboy ,welcome 2kfanboy ,ur antics aare quite recognizable, if u wanna straight up diss the game, go ahead and stop weaving ur way through, save us the time plz

when i started this thread, i have no intention of bringing up 2k6, because i was expecting every to vote no, and stick with LIVE being arcade. but that was never the case, as you can see 24 approve to zero, and all the complaints from the posters saying the game being arcade............and i have said this many times before, what you like, LIVE or 2k, arcade or sim, is your opinion, and 2k is sim while live is arcade is the facts. but everyone is complaing that they hate "the best game" being arcade, like they don't know about 2k being a sim. you know how ironic that sounds? don't you think its just logical to try something that have your personnality and likes written all over the cover? or just try something else(cause there are options) if you hate what you have?

explain to me how the following stats aint sim, plz explain to me

My team:Nets
Field Goal---------41-46%
Points per game--100-106ppg
Defensive Rebs---24rebs
Offensive Rebs--15rebs
Assists--24-27asts
Steals--6-10

CPU numbers
Points allowed:95-103ppg
Field goal% allowed--45-48%
Turnovers forced: 10-15
Steals:6-10

Please explain to me if im getting these results in a 12min quarter game, that Live aint sim, HELP ME OUT HERE