The first roster patch with up-to-date players rating...

by **zaxis** on Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:40 am

Hi, everybody! I've just made the first(maybe) roster patch with up-to-date players rating and develop stats.
I've spent hundreds of hours on it, and hope you guys will like it!

Here is the key feature of the patch,

- Corrected all players information. (height, weight, jersey numbers and more...)

- Re-calulated players rating included Field Goal, 3 Point, Free Throw, Off. Rebound, Def. Rebound, Steal and Block directly from 2002-03 Statistics.

- New definition of Develop Stats for better simulation result.

- Four individual roster included "Single Mode", "Battle Mode", "Online Mode" and "Non-Tweak" for different needs.

I know you always want more transparency. So, I decided to open the calculation formula.
Here is the details,

Code: Select all: following is the formula which is calculated directly from 2002-03 Statistics, RATING FORMULA RANGE FG ^Adjusted Points per minute + 3PT rating + FT rating 60-90 3PT 3 Point Percentage + 3 Point Made per minute 50-90 FT Free Throw Percentage 50-99 STEAL Steals per minute 50-70 BLOCK Blocks per minute 50-70 O.REB O. Rebound per minute * Team's O. Rebound efficiency 50-99 D.REB D. Rebound per minute * Team's D. Rebound efficiency 50-99 ^Adjusted Points = (2 * PTS - FGA - 0.5 * FTA) / (Team PTS) * (Team Off. coefficiency) following is the formula which is calculated from original value, RATING FORMULA DUNK Scaled from 50-99 to 50-90 INS. SCR Scaled from 60-99 to 50-80 PASS Scaled from 50-99 to 60-99 SPEED Scaled from 50-99 to 50-95 QUICK Scaled from 50-99 to 50-95 JUMP Scaled from 50-99 to 50-90

Finally, please try it and tell me what do you think on it.
Your feedback is essential for me to make the patch better and better!

Download Z's NBA Live 2003 Roster Patch v1.11
Download Z's NBA Live 2003 Roster Patch v1.11 from mirror site

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This is my first post here.
i'm Zaxis, nice to meet you guys!

by **m0sd3f** on Tue Jan 14, 2003 11:06 am

Good job man. Keep up the good work. Im dling it right now and Ill post something up later.

by **Hoozah** on Tue Jan 14, 2003 3:18 pm

Zaxis,

Good job on the rosters and tweaks. Played 3 games so far and each game resulted in fairly realistic results.

Steals and turnovers seem to have reared its' ugly head more times than I would have liked though. Other than that, a very well done job all-around.

Keep 'em coming!

by **nuno** on Wed Jan 15, 2003 12:04 am

First off, let me tell that i still didn´t play with your rosters, bur i´ve just downloaded them. It looks great stuff but i have a few questions, if you could answer me it would be cool. So...

1 - what are the gameplay settings you recommend? Minutes pe quarter, difficulty level, arcade or simulation, that kind of stuff.

2 - could you please post the stats of a couple of games you made with your rosters? Im particularly interested in REALISTIC fg% (between 400% and 480%) and REALISTIC number of steals and blocks.

3 - Kevon sent me this great rosters of his, and im playing with them for a couple of weeks now. Is your patch similar? the only way i see to improve this Kevon rosters is a bit more dribbling ability from the guards and a litte lower fg% (both Human and CPU, but especially Human). I also think the CPU plays too well on offense and makes sometimes STUPID shots (like three guys in the shooter face, one of trying to block and i STEEL makes the shot).

Thanks in advance

by **td3ph** on Wed Jan 15, 2003 2:13 am

I'm having trouble downloading the roster. Can someone email it to me. I sure would like to give it a try. my email add is td3ph@yahoo.com

tnx in advance!

by **zaxis** on Wed Jan 15, 2003 2:14 am

Hi, Nuno! I hope the following could help.

1. This roster patch is designed for superstar level and simulation mode. I recommend you play 7-8 minutes per quarter for more realistic result.

2. Usually, my FG is arround 50-55%, with 10 blocks and 5 Steals. And computer is arround 40-50%, 5 blocks and 10 steals. I do not have any complete game stats in my hand right now. Maybe I'll post some here later.

3. Oh, really? There was somebody work similar to mine? I'm new in here. Could you tell me who is Kevon and where can i get his patch?

Zaxis

by **zaxis** on Wed Jan 15, 2003 2:21 am

Hi, td3ph! I have already sent it. Please check your mail box.
Thank you for try it!

Zaxis

by **td3ph** on Wed Jan 15, 2003 2:36 am

tnx for sending it man. I also tweaked a roster on my own and I'm getting fair results with it and I enjoy playing it. I will email it to you and maybe you can try it out also. I'll let you know what I think about your rosters and i will post some stats here.

Tnx again!

by **bucksball** on Wed Jan 15, 2003 2:36 am

I couldn't find any files in the winzip. If you could be so kind to send it this way, I would appreciate it. Thanks.

terryr@ticon.net

by **zaxis** on Wed Jan 15, 2003 3:10 am

Hi, bucksball! check your mail box!

Zaxis

by **zaxis** on Wed Jan 15, 2003 3:41 am

Dear td3ph:

Wow! Your patch is nice. The only thing i don't like is the FG rating. I think it should not calculate straight forward from player FG%. It make a dunker such as Kevin Cato have better FG than a shooter like Mike Miller. Despite this hole, the other settings are nice.

Zaxis

by **zaxis** on Wed Jan 15, 2003 5:05 am

Dear Nuno,

As your requested, I've just played a game with Rockets.
The game was playing at Superstar level, 8 minute per quarter and Simulation mode.
Here is the statistics:

Code: Select all: Entire Game Indiana Houston Points 74 111 Bench Scoring 18 26 Field Goals 28/83 46/76 Field Goal % .337 .605 3 Point FG 4/23 6/16 3 Point % .174 .375 Free Throws 14/19 13/17 Free Throw % .737 .765 Rebounds 29 44 Off. Rebounds 7 8 Def. Rebounds 22 36 Blocks 3 14 Steals 8 5 Assists 12 36 Turnovers 11 15 Fouls 13 13

Zaxis

by **m0sd3f** on Wed Jan 15, 2003 3:02 pm

GJ on the patch. Here is a stats I got from playing the game. On superstar level, 8 min quarter, cpu shot control.

Code: Select all: Entire Game Sacramento Houston Points 86 91 Bench Scoring 27 23 Field Goals 36/84 42/78 Field Goal % .429 .538 3 Point FG 8/35 1/10 3 Point % .229 .100 Free Throws 6/6 6/14 Free Throw % 1.000 .429 Rebounds 27 47 Off. Rebounds 5 12 Def. Rebounds 22 35 Blocks 5 8 Steals 17 6 Assists 20 21 Turnovers 17 24 Fouls 18 10

by **nuno** on Wed Jan 15, 2003 11:16 pm

Well, i really don´t know who he is but he is around in the forums. I think he has a great sense of realism about the NBA and you can see that in his rosters (im getting even better realism know that i got use to them) However, i have the e-mail he sent me with is rosters. I would send it to you but i don´t know your e-mail...

Thanks fot the gameplay setings, but now that i played a bit with your rosters, i think the players are too fast and driblle too quickly...
But the player ratings are GREAT!!!

by **zaxis** on Thu Jan 16, 2003 1:42 am

Dear Nuno,

After your word, I'm really interest on Kevon's work. Could you send it to me? My email address is (zaxis03@yahoo.com).

And thanks for your comments! I agree that the Dribble should be decrease a little. I'll fix it in the next revision. But i think the players speed is just fit now. You may take a simple test, try to run from one baseline to the other in pratice mode and clock it. You will get the answer!

Zaxis

by **The Notorious** on Thu Jan 16, 2003 6:29 am

nuno can u send it to me also ?

henrip@videotron.ca

by **nuno** on Thu Jan 16, 2003 9:07 am

Ok, The Notorious an Zaxis! I´ve send you the rosters you asked for. I also put some things you should know about them.

The Notorious, since you live in Montreal, i think you are an Habs fan. Could you please tell me how Mike Ribeiro is doing? He is son of portuguese and i think he has portuguese nationality. Im asking because im portuguese and i live in Portugal

by **The Notorious** on Thu Jan 16, 2003 10:07 am

i might be from Montreal but i'm a fan of Sens i'm a Sens all the way

by **brownie** on Thu Jan 16, 2003 9:24 pm

Great patch Zaxis! Ratings are really very accurate, but I have a question for all you. It's about stats after simulating games. I mean, in season mode, when you simulate some games, stats of the teams are not realistic.

All starters have 35 minutes per game and most bench players play only 10 mpg and score 3 ppg. You said that you changed Develop stats (D fields in players.dbf, those in the last columns) but there's no effect in the season stats. I tried to increase FG attempts of bench players, and reduce those from starters, but neither...

I really would like to have realistics stats when simulating games.
Does anyone have any idea? Have you tried modifiying more these D fields? Help, pleaseeee!
Thanx

by **zaxis** on Fri Jan 17, 2003 1:32 am

Dear Nuno,

I've tested the roster you sent to me several times. I think beside the players speed, the overall game feeling is quite good, and the result is quite realistic too. But when i checked the players rating carefully, i have been full of confused.

I really interest how did the rating calculate. Some players like Guyton and Wang have incredible high FG, Dean Garrett was the fastest player beside Iverson, and Tony Massenburg fly much higher than Kobe and Vince.

But beside these, I still think Kevon did a good job of balancing the game, the game result are great. and finally, thanks for your mail!

Zaxis

by **zaxis** on Fri Jan 17, 2003 1:43 am

Hi, Brownie!

The minutes of bench players problem was cause by internal programing. I think there is no solution currently. But you can play with my patch for better simulate result of the starters. It especially help some young player like Stoudemire and Giricek. and finally, thanks for your support!

zaxis

by **kalon** on Fri Jan 17, 2003 5:01 am

zaxis, would you mind sending me the latest updated version of your roster please? I would love to try it out. Thanks!

by **zaxis** on Fri Jan 17, 2003 6:07 am

Hi, Kalon! The next revision roster patch have not been out yet. If you cannot download my patch from the links above, I can send you a copy of it. But you have to let me know you email address first.

Zaxis

by **K-Flex** on Fri Jan 17, 2003 10:01 am

zaxis,

You said that you spent hundreds of hours on the patch...did most of that time go into changing players's apperances and numbers? Or did you have to actually go through by hand and change peoples ratings?

by **zaxis** on Fri Jan 17, 2003 11:14 am

Hi, K-Flex!

Nice question, I think most of the time I've spent was checking and correcting player's information, defining the formula and testing it repeatly. I have to say i did not modify any single player rating individually by hand. All of the ratings in the patch are generate by the formula directly. I think this is the only way to get the most accurate and fair result.

Do you have any comments on my patch? Please let me know what do you think of it!

Zaxis

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