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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:08 am

is it true that mongolgamers faces make the game crash??

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:29 am

johnwest1985 wrote:is it true that mongolgamers faces make the game crash??


if that's the case, i hope skoadam won't use them!

btw, @john, which global do you use? i'm in a search of lagoa type global but with deafult accessories. until now, i was using his last made global for 2k14, which is truly amazing, BUT when i compared it with default global, i saw accessories are some sort of messed up in terms that there are too many elbow padded ones. even adidas sleeve (wore by dwight howard in the past) has elbow pad, which is so wrong.

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:35 am

johnwest1985 wrote:is it true that mongolgamers faces make the game crash??

in june i had tons of reports about crashes in 2k13 mod, ctd between 3rd and 4th quarters only. I start to check cfs and i can confirm that some of his cfs(for sure big size files) causing ctd. I have no doubt. After removing his cfs from my mod i have no more reports about ctd between 3rd and 4th and my game is stable. I cant confirm that its the problem of his every cf.

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:36 am

skoadam wrote:One more guys, please change options/game settings/coach settings/defense playcalling from auto to manual because when its set to auto, our defense in 99% of time is set to 3-2 zone, this can ruin even the best roster and sliders. For manual, default set is man to man defence.


even if we don't use URB sliders or this tip is for all sliders?

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:36 am

i use one that was released inside the UBR topic a long time ago.. i might find it if you surch within that topic for global. It does have some menutextures that i had to replace though but the lighting is just amazing..

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:41 am

johnwest1985 wrote:i use one that was released inside the UBR topic a long time ago.. i might find it if you surch within that topic for global. It does have some menutextures that i had to replace though but the lighting is just amazing..


i know, it was @dee4three global, but it had some menu pics inside which i didn't like... but positive side is that it's based on lagoa global and has default accessories.

so you replaced all menu textures back to default ones? do mind to share it? :)

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:42 am

MadbaLL wrote:
skoadam wrote:One more guys, please change options/game settings/coach settings/defense playcalling from auto to manual because when its set to auto, our defense in 99% of time is set to 3-2 zone, this can ruin even the best roster and sliders. For manual, default set is man to man defence.


even if we don't use URB sliders or this tip is for all sliders?

yes, zone 3-2 ruin whole game imo

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:49 am

skoadam wrote:
MadbaLL wrote:
skoadam wrote:One more guys, please change options/game settings/coach settings/defense playcalling from auto to manual because when its set to auto, our defense in 99% of time is set to 3-2 zone, this can ruin even the best roster and sliders. For manual, default set is man to man defence.


even if we don't use URB sliders or this tip is for all sliders?

yes, zone 3-2 ruin whole game imo


are you 100% sure this is also issue with custom sliders?

is there any other workaround except setting defense to manual? in every 2k game i set it to auto, that's the way i'm used to play.

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:56 am

MadbaLL wrote:
skoadam wrote:
MadbaLL wrote:
skoadam wrote:One more guys, please change options/game settings/coach settings/defense playcalling from auto to manual because when its set to auto, our defense in 99% of time is set to 3-2 zone, this can ruin even the best roster and sliders. For manual, default set is man to man defence.


even if we don't use URB sliders or this tip is for all sliders?

yes, zone 3-2 ruin whole game imo


are you 100% sure this is also issue with custom sliders?

is there any other workaround except setting defense to manual? in every 2k game i set it to auto, that's the way i'm used to play.

Ok, what i want you to test, run the game on auto and tell me, do you often feel like your players in defense are far away from guys on the wing, immposible to defense against 3, especially when cpu pg is trying to go inside the paint. If yes and im almost sure about this, change to manual and see the difference.

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:09 am

u got facebook madball ? i actually didnt change them for default ones.. i added some tnt and made some new textures..

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:31 pm

slimm44 wrote:Armon, are you sure about the other factors in determining inside shot percentage other than standing layup? I am pretty sure I remember doing a ridiculous amount of testing back at the end of 2013 when this game was released and chalked the variations of %'s with any standing layup rating to statistical variance. I don't have the notes I used to keep of sims, but I am almost certain I remember nothing but standing layup and statistical variance impacting inside shot %.


Wasnt there a finding that Standing Layup/Inside shot ratings were way too low across the board? As in, most ratings would have to be in the 90-110 range to be accurate to NBA percentages? This was mentioned in the operationsports thread, and here

viewtopic.php?f=141&t=84310&hilit=ratings

I recall many rosters adding 99 inside ratings(Before it was changed to Standing Layup) after this was discovered. How come this hasn't be adopted?

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:24 pm

skoadam wrote:Ok, what i want you to test, run the game on auto and tell me, do you often feel like your players in defense are far away from guys on the wing, immposible to defense against 3, especially when cpu pg is trying to go inside the paint. If yes and im almost sure about this, change to manual and see the difference.


i already noticed that in 2-3 games i played, but i thought it was part of the defense setting...

ok, what is the final solution to fix this in order we can set auto settings back? what needs to be edited again?

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:25 pm

johnwest1985 wrote:u got facebook madball ? i actually didnt change them for default ones.. i added some tnt and made some new textures..


oh, ok then... i though you put them on default textures... in that case nevermind, but thanks for the good will for sharing them with me (Y)

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:47 pm

MadbaLL wrote:
skoadam wrote:Ok, what i want you to test, run the game on auto and tell me, do you often feel like your players in defense are far away from guys on the wing, immposible to defense against 3, especially when cpu pg is trying to go inside the paint. If yes and im almost sure about this, change to manual and see the difference.


i already noticed that in 2-3 games i played, but i thought it was part of the defense setting...

ok, what is the final solution to fix this in order we can set auto settings back? what needs to be edited again?

No, leave manual because. Its not a matter of roster or sliders, its just hardcoded in game. When you have auto, defense almost always is set to 3-2 Zone. When you set on manual and you are not using this in game, it doesnt matter, most important for you is defense default set is man to man. You can leave auto for offensive plays.

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:51 pm

I think i know what is the problem for Ultra Roster in asso mode, it will be easy fix but i want to update few more things to have 2016 updated to the max. So we have two missing players from sixers roster and i will update all assistant coaches. I think i will update few rotations, for sure Bulls, because it looks like new strategy for this team. I will update few accessories also.

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:56 pm

skoadam wrote:
MadbaLL wrote:
skoadam wrote:Ok, what i want you to test, run the game on auto and tell me, do you often feel like your players in defense are far away from guys on the wing, immposible to defense against 3, especially when cpu pg is trying to go inside the paint. If yes and im almost sure about this, change to manual and see the difference.


i already noticed that in 2-3 games i played, but i thought it was part of the defense setting...

ok, what is the final solution to fix this in order we can set auto settings back? what needs to be edited again?

No, leave manual because. Its not a matter of roster or sliders, its just hardcoded in game. When you have auto, defense almost always is set to 3-2 Zone. When you set on manual and you are not using this in game, it doesnt matter, most important for you is defense default set is man to man. You can leave auto for offensive plays.


there is no such issue in 2k13, right?

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:03 pm

xoamberxo222 wrote:
slimm44 wrote:Armon, are you sure about the other factors in determining inside shot percentage other than standing layup? I am pretty sure I remember doing a ridiculous amount of testing back at the end of 2013 when this game was released and chalked the variations of %'s with any standing layup rating to statistical variance. I don't have the notes I used to keep of sims, but I am almost certain I remember nothing but standing layup and statistical variance impacting inside shot %.


Wasnt there a finding that Standing Layup/Inside shot ratings were way too low across the board? As in, most ratings would have to be in the 90-110 range to be accurate to NBA percentages? This was mentioned in the operationsports thread, and here

http://forums.nba-live.com/viewtopic.ph ... it=ratings

I recall many rosters adding 99 inside ratings(Before it was changed to Standing Layup) after this was discovered. How come this hasn't be adopted?


Since the sim engine has an at-the-rim FG% range of 43-68, it gives players who shoot over 67-68% at the rim lower field goal percentages which tend to be maybe 20 or so players per year. Out of those players, it mainly effects those who don't take many mid range or 3pt shots which cuts the number down even more. Try taking the 2016 association or season file and simulate a season. The FG% stats are within realistic ranges of expectations.

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Real Stats from last year per BBREF

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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:04 pm

MadbaLL wrote:
skoadam wrote:
MadbaLL wrote:
skoadam wrote:Ok, what i want you to test, run the game on auto and tell me, do you often feel like your players in defense are far away from guys on the wing, immposible to defense against 3, especially when cpu pg is trying to go inside the paint. If yes and im almost sure about this, change to manual and see the difference.


i already noticed that in 2-3 games i played, but i thought it was part of the defense setting...

ok, what is the final solution to fix this in order we can set auto settings back? what needs to be edited again?

No, leave manual because. Its not a matter of roster or sliders, its just hardcoded in game. When you have auto, defense almost always is set to 3-2 Zone. When you set on manual and you are not using this in game, it doesnt matter, most important for you is defense default set is man to man. You can leave auto for offensive plays.


there is no such issue in 2k13, right?


Correct.

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:36 pm

slimm44 wrote:
MadbaLL wrote:
skoadam wrote:
MadbaLL wrote:
skoadam wrote:Ok, what i want you to test, run the game on auto and tell me, do you often feel like your players in defense are far away from guys on the wing, immposible to defense against 3, especially when cpu pg is trying to go inside the paint. If yes and im almost sure about this, change to manual and see the difference.


i already noticed that in 2-3 games i played, but i thought it was part of the defense setting...

ok, what is the final solution to fix this in order we can set auto settings back? what needs to be edited again?

No, leave manual because. Its not a matter of roster or sliders, its just hardcoded in game. When you have auto, defense almost always is set to 3-2 Zone. When you set on manual and you are not using this in game, it doesnt matter, most important for you is defense default set is man to man. You can leave auto for offensive plays.


there is no such issue in 2k13, right?


Correct.


then it's another + for me to go back to nba 2k13.

@sko, please continue updating your baby ;)

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:54 pm

MadbaLL wrote:
slimm44 wrote:
MadbaLL wrote:
skoadam wrote:
MadbaLL wrote:
skoadam wrote:Ok, what i want you to test, run the game on auto and tell me, do you often feel like your players in defense are far away from guys on the wing, immposible to defense against 3, especially when cpu pg is trying to go inside the paint. If yes and im almost sure about this, change to manual and see the difference.


i already noticed that in 2-3 games i played, but i thought it was part of the defense setting...

ok, what is the final solution to fix this in order we can set auto settings back? what needs to be edited again?

No, leave manual because. Its not a matter of roster or sliders, its just hardcoded in game. When you have auto, defense almost always is set to 3-2 Zone. When you set on manual and you are not using this in game, it doesnt matter, most important for you is defense default set is man to man. You can leave auto for offensive plays.


there is no such issue in 2k13, right?


Correct.


then it's another + for me to go back to nba 2k13.

@sko, please continue updating your baby ;)


I see what you are saying, but when you set defensive playcalling to manual in 2k14 it does the same thing as setting it to auto does in 2k13. 2k13 only calls man to man defense when playcalling is set to auto and zone defense is set to 0, 2k14 only calls man defense when playcalling is set to manual.

Have you tried this yet on 2k14?

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:07 pm

skoadam wrote:I think i know what is the problem for Ultra Roster in asso mode, it will be easy fix but i want to update few more things to have 2016 updated to the max. So we have two missing players from sixers roster and i will update all assistant coaches. I think i will update few rotations, for sure Bulls, because it looks like new strategy for this team. I will update few accessories also.

Christian Wood is in free agents pool and i found face for Dwight Powell.Its from Bamz draft class 4079 Dwight Powell.viewtopic.php?f=153&t=93186

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:56 pm

slimm44 wrote:I see what you are saying, but when you set defensive playcalling to manual in 2k14 it does the same thing as setting it to auto does in 2k13. 2k13 only calls man to man defense when playcalling is set to auto and zone defense is set to 0, 2k14 only calls man defense when playcalling is set to manual.

Have you tried this yet on 2k14?


i will try later today, thanks for clearing things up (Y)

but i'm still serious about his baby from another section of forum :cool:

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:02 am

I plan on updating my stuff on 13 and 14 but I wait until more games are played to do so.

Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:53 am

In next silent update, all assistant coaches updated


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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! Opening Night Roster! 27.10.15 & MORE!

Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:20 am

Nice! Also jabari brown is still in the lakers instead of huertas.
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