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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby Rob Owen on Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:10 pm

Crazy Stuffs!
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby JaoSming on Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:51 pm

iPenny24 wrote:Hey Jaoming! First of all i love all your street mod specially back in 213 that we can able to play mycareer into street not the stadium courts. having said that can you do that again using that courts the last photo, it would be great if you do that for me. Thanks looking forward... sorry for my bad english

I replied to your other thread, I personally dont care too much for that court since the buildings and stuff are in the crowd...maybe I'll make it the all star court or something and remove the sunset effects.

tatlopuyo wrote:this is awesome..so editing all the texture files in the global.iff file is possible now jao?can you show some preview if you change the resolution the sizes of the specular_map or cube maps in the global files?

Do you have textures you'd like me to import into those slots for testing? Because if I just HD what I have, it doesn't really do much of a change. But yes, we can change the resolution of those. You reminded me that 2k13's global file in 2k14 has the jersey reflections instead of the sleeved ones....I wanted to track down which part controlled that.

tatlopuyo wrote:also if its possible from moving files to another can u try like import the the model of last years tight jersey by bliss to the model with cloth physics.maybe that can be done.sorry for my bad english.

unfortunately importing a static model over a cloth model does this
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the jersey doesn't move. Unfortunately, I tried replacing sleeved uniforms with the retro uniform tops so we could have a tight static uniform with moving shorts, and it still crashes just like if we do it with RED MC.
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby zz21 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:40 am

Rondo's face... :crazyeyes:
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby JaoSming on Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:51 am

zzcoolj21 wrote:Rondo's face... :crazyeyes:

not HD'd, just Kidow's :) viewtopic.php?f=153&t=92876&start=50#p1658197
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby zz21 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:03 am

Not gonna lie, had me fooled. Great face Kidow :applaud:
I can only imagine what cf makers will do with hd faces...
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby PepsiWithCoke on Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:25 am

Wait, 2k10 used higher res textures?

I guess 2k really did dumb down the games to make the "Next gen" version look more impressive compared to the 360/PS3 versions..
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby zz21 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:31 am

PepsiWithCoke wrote:Wait, 2k10 used higher res textures?

I guess 2k really did dumb down the games to make the "Next gen" version look more impressive compared to the 360/PS3 versions..

Yea ive played 2k9 quite a bit this year. animations are terrible but graphics blow 2k14 out of the water.
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby JaoSming on Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:47 am

well at least the textures did, enough for me to install it again
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby PepsiWithCoke on Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:55 am

Jao, Are you going to upload that MyPlayer shirt?
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby nataeos on Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:55 am

Freaking awesome!!

But please Jao refrain yourself to post too much pics!! Now we simply can't wait for this to be released :D

By the way is there any expected date? Will it be built with the same Reditor we already have for rosters... or a separate one?
I just imagine that there's a lot of work behind all of that.

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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby Vl@d Zola Jr. on Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:22 am

I guess 2k really did dumb down the games to make the "Next gen" version look more impressive compared to the 360/PS3 versions..

This actually happened, because they added other stuff to the game, and DVDs, used by 360, aren't big enough, so they had to reduce sizes of some textures among other measures (like changing compression algos, etc.).

By the way is there any expected date? Will it be built with the same Reditor we already have for rosters... or a separate one?

IFF functionality will be integrated with the already existing RED MC. No ETA yet.
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby Wilt Chamberlain on Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:24 am

Big Thanks for your work vl@d :applaud:
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby JaoSming on Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:03 am

PepsiWithCoke wrote:Jao, Are you going to upload that MyPlayer shirt?

eh, probably not, considering it is stretched out and such
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby ryan4889 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:00 am

Big thanks Jao and Vlad!!! :bowdown2: ...this game is about to become a whole nother animal :D
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby jbaylon74 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:50 pm

Heybro jao is this free or we need to buy this? :(
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby JaoSming on Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:14 pm

jbaylon74 wrote:Heybro jao is this free or we need to buy this? :(

just like RED MC for rosters, pay for licenses to do stuff, but you can release the files and anyone can use them
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby Tha King on Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:32 pm

JaoSming, don't worry man! that's my jersey. base on the logo texture and the warmups. btw! when would this drop? this is cray. and for the stress test result we or you should set an maximum resolution, so those who don't have a good rig can't handle the HD textures.
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby Orion Pax on Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:36 pm

Can you edit the number/logo placement in the jerseys?
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby tatlopuyo on Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:57 am

Jao can you try to put 2k9 global textures to 2k14 global textures and see if it makes any difference in the graphics?
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby Bliss on Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:11 am

Jao Can we replace the normal dornas to electronic ones with this tool?
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby JaoSming on Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:33 am

Tha King wrote:JaoSming, don't worry man! that's my jersey. base on the logo texture and the warmups. btw! when would this drop? this is cray. and for the stress test result we or you should set an maximum resolution, so those who don't have a good rig can't handle the HD textures.

There is no real benefit going to the 8192x4096 resolution IMO, I think the 4096x2048 is good enough. We can do custom resolutions that are in between that too, it just has to be multiples of 4 or something, I forget, its a dds thing.

double0 wrote:Can you edit the number/logo placement in the jerseys?

No. We still need to find where in the file that data is stored. It should be easy enough to locate now, so I'll try and give a look for it tonight.

tatlopuyo wrote:Jao can you try to put 2k9 global textures to 2k14 global textures and see if it makes any difference in the graphics?

I'm sure they would, but my time is limited as is, and I dont really want to try and figure out which 2K9 texture lines up with 2K14 textures to do that.

Bliss wrote:Jao Can we replace the normal dornas to electronic ones with this tool?

I think that is controlled in the stadium file, so I could try importing an electronic "items" part into a scrolling file and see if that changes. Added to the list.


Still trying to find time to figure out where that reflection model is in the global.
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby levynagy on Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:54 am

zzcoolj21 wrote:
PepsiWithCoke wrote:Wait, 2k10 used higher res textures?

I guess 2k really did dumb down the games to make the "Next gen" version look more impressive compared to the 360/PS3 versions..

Yea ive played 2k9 quite a bit this year. animations are terrible but graphics blow 2k14 out of the water.


The same reason I prefer to play with photographic CFs in 2K11 over cartoonish CFs in 2K14, not to mention the gameplay.
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby Maverick on Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:03 am

JaoSming wrote:Still trying to find time to figure out where that reflection model is in the global.

Exactly what I was thinking. Hope you find it and the bug where the players are wearing a shirt in their reflections. *fingers crossed*
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby JaoSming on Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:43 pm

FUCK YEA, SERIOUSLY.

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Those damn sleeves were one of my biggest pet peeves this year. Ahhhhh.

Didn't use the tool to find it even....stumbled upon it searching "play" for players in my list thread.
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583   benplay
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961   refplay
and got serious

Both are located right next to the player models in the file itself, exported from 2K13 (part 928), imported into 2K14, and DONE. The 2K14 file is bigger, because of the sleeves, so you could try doing a hex part replace and add the needed 00's after the 2K13 file to make it all the same size. I'll release this global file, with TP's lightened reflections, once the tool is released though. HELL YEA.
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Re: RED MC iff Editing Preview: HD Textures, Crazy Stadiums,

Postby jakeywakey911 on Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:00 pm

Great work Jao! Super excited to see what comes of these mods. This game plays overall better then Next gen, we just gotta HD it :)
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