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Ever Heard of Ivan Chiriaev?

Postby wangster on Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:01 am

He's one of the top prospects for next year's draft.

http://nbadraft.net/chiriaevstory.asp

A 7-footer with legitimate point guard skills? :shock:

Could be very interesting if (a big IF) he develops into a good NBA player. And I think it's pretty safe for me to say this is the first time in history that a Canadian high-school player is being even considered for a lottery pick in the NBA draft.

This brings me to my sentiment that the NBA draft has drastically changed from the past. These days, the most important thing that is looked for in a prospect is what he COULD do in basketball and not what he already CAN do. That's why the top prospects are usually some unknown, young, inexperienced, unproven, enormous size international player (who might not even be a starter in Europe), or some Lebron-esque high school kid. Basically, teams in the NBA are willing to take higher and higher risks to land themselves a project that has the potential to be a great player instead of taking a already proven college standout who is sure to make immediate impact but may never be a top player in the league.

While this does make for some interesting draft choices and some of them may develop into players worth watching but I think it also leads to some career benchwarmers who couldn't live up to their hype. And because of those not-so-great great prospects, the overlooked players who had worked to prove themselves at a high level will never be able to play in the league, where they could have had successful though not brilliant careers. I guess if it's the direction the teams are willing to go in, that's how the upcoming NBA is going to be like. A lot of hits, but a heck of a lot of misses too, and a whole bunch of sleepers.
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Postby DrNick on Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:09 am

omg imagine a person as tall as shaq wid da same down low skillz like statz but wid da eyesight of jason kidd


he iz gonna b very dominating
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Postby air gordon on Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:49 pm

my vote goes to drnick for biggest sig on the board

i hope in my lifetime i will get to see a starting lineup featuring five 7fters (not counting all star games)
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Postby Nick on Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:40 pm

My vote goes to you, then Old School Fool, then DrNick.

Imagine...

a team with Yao Ming at center, Tyson Chandler at PF, Dirk Nowitzki at SF, Damarr Johnson at SG, and this ivan dude at PG. :shock:

C- 7'6"
PF- 7'1"
SF- 7'1"
SG- 6'9"
PG- 7'1"
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Postby wangster on Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:48 pm

I for one would also like to see a line-up like that happen. :cool:

I think that might be as perfect a definition of dominance as you can get.

To crawford4mip4real: Nick is right. Your gif file is actually many times larger than drnick's. :wink:
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Postby air gordon on Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:58 pm

thank you for the votes...1,000 apologies if the crawford .gif makes the page load slowly for certain posters. at least it's space efficent (wink)
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Postby Old School Fool on Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:58 pm

7 Foot Dude who can shoot Threes and is a Point Guard? :lol:
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Postby paul_pierce_the_truth on Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:13 pm

DrNick wrote:omg imagine a person as tall as shaq wid da same down low skillz like statz but wid da eyesight of jason kidd


he iz gonna b very dominating


What?
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Postby Stevan on Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:29 pm

KG at the point anyone? :lol:

What?

Oh my god! Imagine a person as big as Shaquille O'Neal, with the same skills down low, and producing the same kind of statistics, but with the added eye sight and vision and point guard qualities of Jason Kidd.

That type of player would be very dominant.

Finally another guy in DrNick who speaks Pavenian. :D


As for the topic, a 7 footer may have some of the skills of a PG, but agility, speed etc? Look at the Nuggets, and certain other teams in recent times (ie Mavs last season, Suns of 97) who have gone with two point guards and been effective. Heck the nuggets played 2 pg's in the back court and Jon Barry at the 3 and have picked up wins here and there.
With those skills however, if he can play down low and combine skills with being somewhat physical, then (y) Does anyone know how much he weighs?
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Postby Nick on Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:17 pm

A year a go he weighed 185 lbs.

but he packed on some muscle and now weighs 235 lbs.
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Postby MaD_hAND1e on Wed Nov 19, 2003 4:20 pm

well... u say he is in HIGH SCHOOL... that doesn't mean anything...... plus, he is 7 foot ! and in high school, ofcourse he would dominate the high school games, u never know, he might turn out like shawn bradley :lol:
but if u guys are correct about his skills, i could only imagine how good he could be. a 7 foot point guard :shock: that must be a first
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Postby Jackal on Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:27 am

But I think I can be better than Nowitzki.


That's what he said...
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Postby Filip on Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:05 am

Dirk Nowitski = The best white man in the NBA.
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Postby Nick on Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:57 am

Hmmm, i dunno about that, i reckon Jason Kidd is better.
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Postby wangster on Tue Nov 25, 2003 1:12 pm

Is Jason Kidd really white? Doesn't look like your average white guy.
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Postby Colin on Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:04 pm

wangster wrote:Is Jason Kidd really white? Doesn't look like your average white guy.
Jason Kidd is half-half white and black, same with another good point guard Bibby.

Stevan wrote:Finally another guy in DrNick who speaks Pavenian.
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Postby Stevan on Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:48 am

Jason Kidd is "blite"... so is Mike Bibby though he's a little darker, kinda like a latino... Mike Bibendez perhaps? Doug Christie is also hard to distinguish. Judging by them teeth he's half horse half ugly.
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Postby . on Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:57 am

Bibby´s mom is from Venezuela or something I believe
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Postby DrNick on Wed Nov 26, 2003 8:59 am

i think the best white player iz/waz =jerry west
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Postby Matthew on Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:50 am

Yo dawg u be trippin out, you'z gotz ta stop trifflin! Larr Bird iz da greatezt wite boy da played in tha nba
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Postby DrNick on Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:57 am

lol ight u wanna b like dat




ni99a wat u b smokin up in diz joint. larry might b a good ball playa but he aint da greatest white boi to eva play dis game. dat greatest white boi iz jerry west. dat ni99a b smokin dat good shit.


Translation:
What are you saying here? Larry might be a good basketball player but he isn't the best white person to play the game. That person is jerry west he is really good.


by da way watz trifflin shouldv'e use sniffin instead


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Postby Shep on Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:39 pm

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Postby Matthew on Thu Nov 27, 2003 7:47 am

What exactly is your reasoning as to why jerry west is "better"?
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Postby DrNick on Thu Nov 27, 2003 10:49 am

Code: Select all
        Jerry West                                         Larry Bird
PPG      27.0                                                   24.3
Points  25,192                                               21,791
APG      6.7                                                     6.3
Assists 6,238                                                 5,695
Rpg       5.8                                                    10.0
Rebounds 5,376                                             8,974       



cant believe i just wasted 10 mins of ma whole life o well
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Postby wangster on Thu Nov 27, 2003 11:26 am

DrNick wrote:
Code: Select all
        Jerry West                                         Larry Bird
PPG      27.0                                                   24.3
Points  25,192                                               21,791
APG      6.7                                                     6.3
Assists 6,238                                                 5,695
Rpg       5.8                                                    10.0
Rebounds 5,376                                             8,974       



cant believe i just wasted 10 mins of ma whole life o well


Now I could be demented for pointing this out, but I don't think you've answered NBA_Fan_23's question.
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