Sliders for Realistic Stats

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Sat Nov 22, 2003 4:32 pm

Thanks for the feedback smsudi - I'll try further tweaks based on your results.

by **smsudi** on Sat Nov 22, 2003 4:39 pm

Do you know how I can get the player stats to show up as readable in the forum?

by **ChicagoBulls6in8** on Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:35 pm

smsudi wrote:Do you know how I can get the player stats to show up as readable in the forum?

i use notepad and the lucida console font. line everything up then copy and paste it between the 'code' tags.

example:

Code: Select all: Ben Wallace pts rebs asts stls 10 18 5 0

or if you meant as a team:

Code: Select all: pts rebs asts stls blks b. wallace 8 18 6 0 4 r. hamilton 23 9 8 2 0 c. billups 14 4 6 2 0 t. prince 10 10 5 1 2

etc.

by **SHAKED2M** on Sat Nov 22, 2003 6:47 pm

ChicagoBulls6in8 wrote:The game I just quit made it painfully obvious that just like other EA games the highest level is not for me.

I was losing with the Magic to the Pistons 62-38. The game was tight to begin with then the opened a lead and kept opening. Didn't feel real at all but that's just me I guess.

The game I played last night with the All Star settings was muuuuuuuuch better. I lost 88-87 and it was full of runs, not huge runs but runs. Veeeeeery realistic, to me.

i lost to the spurs with the knicks
152-137
in which sliders you play?

by **redz** on Sat Nov 22, 2003 9:07 pm

i noticed that when you put your controller on the CPU team to change something in their playbook and then put it back to your team, the cpu follows the human slider????

this happened to me 3 times...i noticed it on my second game... and on the third game i put the long rage % of the CPU to 19 put they were still hitting 3 better than i was...

Anyone notice this??

by **redz** on Sat Nov 22, 2003 9:10 pm

slimmthers wrote:Is there a way to save the sliders? Everytime I start the game they are set back to the default settings.

try saving a dynasty or probably a roster....

by **JP_Frost** on Sun Nov 23, 2003 2:43 am

"How do you all think about the # of FG attempts by each team, is that about right...as well as steals, blocks and turnovers? I think those look pretty nice (especially compared to last year...)"

it looked great, it's the NBA average, only things that weren't as realistic were the fouls and 3 point % of toronto, but like you said, that can be fixed with the sliders. Looks nice so far.

by **fgrep15** on Sun Nov 23, 2003 8:17 am

offensive rebounds are just too hard to get i even tried putting defensive boards to 1 and offensive to 100 and nothing i played against the comp and then i had them play each other but still only like 4 per team in 12min quarters.....its just the animations after shooting and the fact that offensive players dont fight for position on the glass and that u cant tip the ball after missing cause ur guy starts doing something else or gets stuck

by **smsudi** on Sun Nov 23, 2003 8:51 am

Second game report. I was the Clips hosting Utah. Again 12-mins, All-Star, didn't change any of the sliders yet, and used set plays for each team instead of dynamic.

Code: Select all: Entire Game Utah LA Clippers Points 73 87 Bench Scoring 20 26 Field Goals 32/85 37/88 Field Goal % .376 .420 3 Point FG 4/19 3/8 3 Point % .211 .375 Free Throws 5/7 10/12 Free Throw % .714 .833 Rebounds 50 49 Off. Rebounds 6 5 Def. Rebounds 44 44 Blocks 2 8 Steals 4 9 Assists 10 23 Turnovers 17 12 Fouls 8 9

Matt Harpring: 19 pts 7/19 shooting in 43 mins

Elton Brand: 17 pts 7/16 shooting in 31 mins[/code]

by **JP_Frost** on Sun Nov 23, 2003 9:34 am

those stats look mad accurate, just one thing, not enough fouls which leads to too few free throws, but the rest was great. How did ya get the bench scoring so accurate this time ?

by **smsudi** on Sun Nov 23, 2003 9:39 am

I didn't change anything. Here's the minutes for each player though:

UTAH Starters:
Harpring - 43
Stevenson - 35
Jackson - 29
Clark - 33
Kirilenko - 35

Bench:
Williams - 20
Bell - 17
Borchardt - 8
Ostertag - 4
Collins - 21
Arroyo - DNP
Lopez - DNP

LAC Starters:
Brand - 31
Jaric - 34
Maggette - 39
Richardson - 32
Ely - 30 (injured at one point)

Bench:
House - 10
Dooling - 15
Fowlkes - 17
Wilcox - 18
Kaman - 10
Drobnjak - 10
ZhiZhi - DNP

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Sun Nov 23, 2003 12:09 pm

Looks like I'll need to adjust long range % and the foul sliders. Again, thanks for keeping me updated with the results. (Y)

by **NYK9327** on Sun Nov 23, 2003 12:18 pm

I have my user shot blocking really low, 15. I get way too many blocks if it's higher.

by **antiprnt** on Sun Nov 23, 2003 6:40 pm

is there a way to adjust the sliders without being in game? If so what file will i have to edit and what program will i have to use. (if not notepad)

by **Ymakino** on Sun Nov 23, 2003 10:11 pm

Out of all the sliders, fouls seem to be the hardest to tweak.. I find putting in air collision fouls on 100 is perfect, reachin on 60, shooting on 30, gives decent results.

by **fgrep15** on Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:31 am

jackson isn't on utah nemore arroyo is starting and his rating doesn't match his current performance

by **TheBigEasy** on Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:14 am

I have tried another game with Andrews sliders. Changed nothing. Played New Orleans vs. Portland. At halftime score was 70 - 45 for the Trailblazers ... 12 Minute quarters. So I quit and started another one.

NO vs. Denver. 10 minute quarter. All-Star. Gamespeed reduced to 45. Nothing else changed.

Code: Select all: Entire Game New Orleans Denver Points 94 84 Bench Scoring 20 23 Field Goals 39/97 39/96 Field Goal % .402 .406 3 Point FG 4/30 5/28 3 Point % .133 .179 Free Throws 12/18 1/1 Free Throw % .667 1.000 Rebounds 49 58 Off. Rebounds 4 4 Def. Rebounds 45 54 Blocks 6 6 Steals 11 1 Assists 15 26 Turnovers 12 18 Fouls 10 13

I had to go to overtime, cause after regulation it was tied at 79. It was quite a good game and the stats seem realistic. I will try to play it at 12 minutes, and maybe with another opponent.

TheBigEasy

by **ChicagoBulls6in8** on Mon Nov 24, 2003 4:00 am

what i don't get is why you shoot so many 3's. i know why the cpu shoots so many because they are retarded but why you?

by **TheBigEasy** on Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:16 am

ChicagoBulls6in8 wrote:what i don't get is why you shoot so many 3's. i know why the cpu shoots so many because they are retarded but why you?

Cant really explain it ... I just love to sink them from beyond the arc. And with some accomplished 3pt shooters on the roster it seems to be the best way. Although you are right, I should shoot less of them and try to make easy buckets.

TheBigEasy

by **antiprnt** on Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:40 am

this is what i got from using Andrew's sliders posted on the front page.
Superstar mode, 8 minute quarters, This is with my dynasty team Orlando. With overall rating for 84, Pacers are also rated 84.

Code: Select all: Entire Game Orlando Indiana Points 106 62 Bench Scoring 32 8 Field Goals 43/75 29/75 Field Goal % .573 .387 3 Point FG 5/12 2/24 3 Point % .417 .083 Free Throws 15/17 2/2 Free Throw % .882 1.000 Rebounds 41 27 Off. Rebounds 8 7 Def. Rebounds 33 20 Blocks 8 7 Steals 6 3 Assists 29 20 Turnovers 7 10 Fouls 2 13

high scorer was tmac with 25, yao with 18, tparker with 13, garrity with 14, steven hunter with 12, everyone else on bench had 2 or more points

by **smsudi** on Mon Nov 24, 2003 8:07 am

Wow that's a big win on SuperStar.

You only got called for 2 fouls.

I think these sliders def. need tweaking for SuperStar mode, from the looks of those results.

All-Star might be better suited for these sliders, just a few tweaks and they could be perfect.

by **JohnnyBlaze410** on Mon Nov 24, 2003 8:58 am

I played a game with the Rockets vs. Nets @ new jersey and I lost big time. I was able to hang in there for the first half cuz I was able to get to the line, but my 3rd Q bad shooting took me out of the game. I missed 14 shots in a row. J-Kidd really punished me (35 points/9dimes) getting to the basket and drawing a contact. He was 9/12 from the line.
My best player was my own greated shooting guard Johnny Blaze with 29 points. I think I lost cuz I didnt dump the ball inside to Yao or Griffin, but there were a tough matchup on the low post against ZO and K-Mart

Here's the stats for the game

Code: Select all: Entire Game Houston New Jersey Points 72 93 Bench Scoring 20 9 Field Goals 24/77 37/74 Field Goal % .312 .500 3 Point FG 0/15 3/13 3 Point % .000 .231 Free Throws 24/30 16/25 Free Throw % .800 .640 Rebounds 38 53 Off. Rebounds 5 6 Def. Rebounds 33 47 Blocks 7 1 Steals 6 3 Assists 15 14 Turnovers 9 10 Fouls 18 21

as you see I also strugled from behind the 3pt line.

and the sliders I use:

Code: Select all: Global Sliders Game Speed - 60 Ft difficulty - 50 Force Field - 80 Injury frequency - 50 Fatique - 50 Charge/Block foul - 30 Shooting foul - 60 Reach-in foul - 45 In air collision foul - 70 User/CPU Sliders Stealing - 60 Interception - 70 Shot Block - 55 Dunk/Layup Block - 60 Freestyle - 60 Dunk/layup - 75 On Ball defense asst - 80 Off rebounding - 70 Def rebounding - 65 Short range shooting - 35 Medium range shooting - 40 Long range shooting - 38 Dunk % - 50 Layup % - 50 User adjusted shot % - 40 Physical defense - 80 Poor released shot - 35 double team - 70

I'm still tweakin up my settings, but I'm pretty close to where I wanna be.

Allstar level and 10min quarters

Any feedback?

by **TheBigEasy** on Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:08 am

And another one with Andrews sliders. All-Star. 12 Minute quarters. Gamespeed reduced to 42. NO (me of course) vs. Indiana. I have toned down the 3pt attempts a bit ...

Code: Select all: Entire Game New Orleans Indiana Points 121 114 Bench Scoring 58 14 Field Goals 47/109 44/109 Field Goal % .431 .404 3 Point FG 10/24 11/46 3 Point % .417 .239 Free Throws 17/25 15/20 Free Throw % .680 .750 Rebounds 55 64 Off. Rebounds 3 7 Def. Rebounds 52 57 Blocks 10 1 Steals 13 1 Assists 27 23 Turnovers 14 17 Fouls 18 15

The score is a bit too high for my taste, so either the sliders have to be tweaked a bit more or I have to play harder defense

. Or I just have to go down to 10 minute quarters.

TheBigEasy

by **smsudi** on Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:05 am

Since this thread is so active, and this issue is a big part of me helping to test sliders, I'm just posting it here.

I'm having a problem with my controller. It's a Nyko AirFlo PC with dual analog. Now, sometimes during a game, the left analog stick gets messed up and for some reason my player will be stuck moving to the left, or down...and I can't do anything about it.

So, then I quit out, and basically unplug my controller, restart the computer, plug it back in, and it will work again.

Then a few days later, it'll happen again.

Just happened right now (luckilly only a minute in) while trying to test the sliders again. Very annoying! I don't know if I should just bring it back as defective, or if there's a reason why this is happening....

Thanks for any information you guys have...I need it! I spent $25 on this, and I don't want to go back to the Gravis Gamepad Pro.

A note: I've been using this controller with NHL 2004 and had no such problems, in fact it's a perfect controller for that game, because my hands get sweaty with all the button mashing gotta love the air flow.

by **Colin** on Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:30 am

JohnnyBlaze410, how did you get the sliders in a .txt style thing. Is there a place where sliders are saved as a .txt file or something. Please help because tab-alting and taking screenshots are time-consuming, and I forget once I'm in the game. :oops:

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