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Postby Skills on Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:51 am

Damn. Not surpirsed with most of the selections..
Wow for the first time, Shaq didn't make it! Haha
He always does crazy shit at ASW. No more :(
But Calderon should've made it over Joe Johnson.
No offense, but Josh Smith is taking over the ATL so far..
CP3's selection didn't shock me, but B-Roy's did!
Him over B-Diddy doesn't make sense, but Lamrock's case does.
Overall, I rate this All-Star game to be a B-
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Postby Patr1ck on Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:57 am

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Kaman's rebounding and blocking should have got him a nod ahead of West's points. Chris Kaman ranks in the top 10 of 12 categories. David West is ranked in the top 10 for 3. What two factors do you think played a role in West's all star appearance? Your right. His team's record at the top of his division gets him alot more attention and the fact the all star game is being held in his home team's town.
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Postby Miami Heat on Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:21 am

LETS GO EAST!!

im happy with the east roster so is all good

plus DWADEEEEEEEE is a starter (Y) :mrgreen:
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Postby Lord Vulcane on Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:40 am

Qballer wrote:
Jackal wrote:
All about balancing minutes



except the one year Z got like 2 minutes.

I'm pretty happy with teh results. CP & Roy got in. Shocked by the West pick, but i like him too.

I think Turkoglu & Calderon should've been considered instead of Rip Hamilton though.


i agree.. not that im from turkey but :D turkoglu made his career stats this season and he is the first reason (not only reason) that orlando made so far. He made so many winning shots and he deserves the Mr. Fourth Quarter nickname :)

but in the other hand, Butler, Jamison and Pierce also deserves to be an allstar. so im only disappointed but i agree the coach's decisions.
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Postby The X on Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:51 am

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Kaman's rebounding and blocking should have got him a nod ahead of West's points. Chris Kaman ranks in the top 10 of 12 categories. David West is ranked in the top 10 for 3. What two factors do you think played a role in West's all star appearance? Your right. His team's record at the top of his division gets him alot more attention and the fact the all star game is being held in his home team's town.

Let's see Kaman average those numbers when Brand is back on the low block averaging 20 & 10....now that would be impressive....
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Postby Kbryant8 on Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:36 pm

Well,
Sad that Shaq is not in the lineup...He is a funny guy and i always enjoy to watch shaq`s jokes and silly moves.
Also sad to see how people talk about good players who can`t dominate anymore cause they are old and have hundred injury problems.
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Postby mvpshaq32 on Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:42 pm

No more crossovers and three point attempts from Shaq this year? :(
Would have thought the coaches would vote for Shaq just for pure entertainment....

The only thing I'm mad about is Davis getting snubbed.
I read your reasons for why Roy got in, but I thought with all the hype around the Warriors, Davis would have gotten in for sure. Nash was a lock and then Paul, Williams, Davis, Roy, and Parker were toss-ups. Just hope this ignites Davis and gives him a boost to lift the Warriors past 2nd round.
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Postby Andrew on Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:33 pm

I would have taken Baron Davis over David West, as good as West is playing this season. Roy makes a good case for being there seeing as though he's a big part of the Blazers' surprise season so I wouldn't necessarily bump him off the team in favour of Davis but if you take out West you don't have to as picking Amare, Dirk, Boozer, Paul, Nash, Roy and Davis would satisfy the requirements of two guards, two forwards, one centre and two other players of any position.

Also:

Riley says Shaq should be an All-Star, Shaq disagrees
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Postby shadowgrin on Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:12 am

The X wrote:Let's see Kaman average those numbers when Brand is back on the low block averaging 20 & 10....now that would be impressive....

He shouldn't be blamed for stepping up his game with most of the Clippers' good players spending time on the injured list (Brand, Livingston, Cassell, Mobley, even Tim Thomas). He stepped up, put up all-star numbers, that itself imo warrants a selection.

Kaman being out is a travesty. I'm inclinded to think that West is included by the coaches to please the hometown host.
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Postby chrisnu on Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:33 am

Nice selections, although I would have preferred Michael Redd or Ray Allen over JJ (hell, I would've taken either of them over Wade). I would've liked to see Al Jefferson or Chris Kaman make it.
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Postby benji on Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:27 am

The fans give you:
Howard-Garnett-James-Wade-Kidd and Yao-Duncan-Anthony-Bryant-Iverson

They botched the East's backcourt, so you have to send Billups and Iguodala as the East's most productive backcourt players. Then you send Chris Bosh and Caron Butler as the forwards. If Okafor was listed as a center, that'd be your guy, but if not Ilgauskas is the only pick. Then the obvious wildcards are Antawn Jamison and Gerald Wallace.

Instead, the coaches give us Joe Johnson, who is not even the best player on his own team, simply because they had to pick someone from the "surprise" Hawks. The Celtics and Pistons "deserve" another player, so they send Hamilton and Pierce.

The fans also break the West backcourt by not sending Paul. And for some insane reason thought Anthony is an All-Star starter. So you have to send Paul as the backcourt guy, and Baron Davis is his obvious partner. Dirk and Boozer are the obvious forwards. With Nash as one of the wildcards. You also send Amare and Al Jefferson, one as the center, the other as a wildcard.

The coaches get some of this right, but also decide the Hornets and Blazers "deserve" players for their placing in the conference.

Sorry Kaman fans, he's had a great season, but you have to remember he is not the only center...and player...in the West having great seasons.
We all expected GSW to do well

We did?
Baron's supporting cast > Roy's supporting cast; Baron has much more talented teammates than Roy, and at one point, a lot of people were saying Stephen Jackson was the real MVP of the team.

What does this have to do with individual performance? Much more? I'd say barely better. And who cares what people were saying? People make lots of silly claims.

I love the "Turkoglu as All-Star" talk. Seriously? Was he an All-Star in 2005-06 when he played just as well?
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Postby Andrew on Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:06 am

Just for fun, if fan voting decided the entire rosters for both teams this year the teams would be as follows:

East

C: Dwight Howard
F: Kevin Garnett
F: LeBron James
G: Dwyane Wade
G: Jason Kidd

Bench:

Ray Allen
Vince Carter
Shaquille O'Neal
Chris Bosh
Gilbert Arenas
Chauncey Billups
Paul Pierce

West

C: Yao Ming
F: Tim Duncan
F: Carmelo Anthony
G: Kobe Bryant
G: Allen Iverson

Bench:

Dirk Nowitzki
Tracy McGrady
Amare Stoudemire
Steve Nash
Chris Paul
Carlos Boozer
Manu Ginobili
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Postby Fitzy on Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:10 am

did any victorians catch the herald sun the other day and the article on bogut? they were saying that he only narrowly missed out on an allstar reserves selection because of chris bosh. and they also said he is in career best form, and hes only averaging slightly slightly more then last season

:? :lol:

i just thought it was a bit biased
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Postby Andrew on Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:15 am

Seriously? As much as I like Bogut, 13, 9 and 2 isn't going to cut it when it comes to the All-Star selections, especially when the flexibility is there to name a power forward (who admittedly plays in the middle at times) as the backup centre.

EDIT: Made a typo as Bogut's averaging 9 rebounds per game, not 5.
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Postby Fitzy on Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:30 am

i thought it was quite funny, there are at least 15 centres/forwards that would get in before bogut
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Postby Skills on Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:22 am

Phht. Bogut over Bosh? LMAO When that happens, VC will be back in Toronto and the fans will love him again.
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Postby JT_55 on Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:16 am

Skillmatic wrote:VC will be back in Toronto and the fans will love him again.


:lol: Just say never and spare us the details. :wink:
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Postby Beatboxer on Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:26 pm

Not because he is my countryman, but, Hedo should have made it. Tonight, he made his first triple double against Mavericks. He does everything for his team. He fights.
Tonight he got 12 rebounds and made 13 assists. He helped D12 scoring 28.
He's also been the player of the week for 2 weeks.

Definately he should have made it. :roll:
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Postby benji on Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:09 pm

No. There are these things called "other players".
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Postby Beatboxer on Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:49 pm

Do you really think Hedo is an "other player" for the Magic?
I thought he was a team leader after D12. Right?
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Postby benji on Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:58 pm

No, I am not going to get on you for the english mishap.

There are other players in the league. There are other players in the East. There are other players at the forward position.

Some of these include: Kevin Garnett, LeBron James, Chris Bosh, Caron Butler, Antawn Jamison, Gerald Wallace.
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Postby Beatboxer on Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:52 pm

Allright, can you say Rip Hamilton's performances are better than Hedo's?

Your answer should be "No!" !
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Postby Lamrock on Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:01 pm

Rip Hamilton = guard
Hedo Turkoglu = forward
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Postby Dan's Brain on Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:53 pm

Turkey-Glue has had a great year. There's no doubt about that. He's made some great strides, going from being little more than a role player to a starter-calibre player who can put up significant numbers. He should be in consideration for M.I.P when that rolls around, but to call him an All-Star is pretty far-fetched.
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Postby Dan's Brain on Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:11 am

Rasheed Wallace has been given the nod to replace KG in the All-Star game.

3 Pistons.
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