Final 52 seconds of previous Heat-Hawks Game to be Replayed

[Sauru]

the question is, will they let marion and banks play or not

[Scotty]

the question is, will they let marion and banks play or not

Very good point. Looking forward to seeing what happens.
What date are they playing again?

[Andrew]

the question is, will they let marion and banks play or not

True, they'll have to make a ruling on that. I'm guessing they'll be ruled ineligible to play though it'll be one for the trivia file if they do.

[JT_55]

If they don't let Marion and Banks play they have to send Shaq back for a final 52 seconds of his Heat career. It would be stupid otherwise, not letting them play and not sending Shaq back.

Would they assume Shaq and Marion/Banks to be of equal value, since they were traded for each other?

[Andrew]

I suppose they could do that too. I remember reading about a game between the Nets and Sixers (if I recall correctly) that needed to be completed as it had been halted in the fourth quarter over some dispute, that was complicated because players had been traded between those two teams since the game that needed to be completed. They ended up finishing the previous game with the original lineups and then played the originally scheduled game with the post-trade lineups, resulting in a few players having played for two teams in the one night.

I'd be surprised if Shaq did play in that game though.

[Fitzy]

What date are they playing again?

The replay will occur immediately prior to the next scheduled game between the two teams -- on March 8, 2008, also at Philips Arena.

[Sauru]

fitzy for the win!

[-Young Buck-]

They need to call this off. If Shaq isnt on the team, which is the reason they are going to reply the last 52 seconds, then there is no need to redo it.

[Andrew]

Interestingly, the Suns do not have a game scheduled for March 8th so while it's perhaps feasible Shaq could appear in the game, I still highly doubt they'd make that ruling.

They need to call this off. If Shaq isnt on the team, which is the reason they are going to reply the last 52 seconds, then there is no need to redo it.

I don't entirely disagree because Shaq's absence does make it somewhat pointless, but consider the possibility of Shaq missing the game with injury had he not been traded to the Suns. Should the redo be called off in that event? Some might say yes but the ruling was made because the Hawks' staff were responsible for an error that placed the Heat at a disadvantage and it wasn't the first time they'd been responsible for such a thing. The ruling has been made, forgetting about the whole thing wouldn't be upholding the penalty.

The thing is, even if Shaq was still with the Heat and wasn't injured at the time, chances are they could still play through the final 52 seconds again and lose the game anyway, which would lead most people to deem the replay pointless as well.

[Sauru]

If they don't let Marion and Banks play they have to send Shaq back for a final 52 seconds of his Heat career. It would be stupid otherwise, not letting them play and not sending Shaq back.

Would they assume Shaq and Marion/Banks to be of equal value, since they were traded for each other?

but if they let marion and banks play, then who takes the roll of shaq? does marion get 5 fouls? who does banks take the place of?

[JT_55]

I suppose they will get to have 6 players for the time being....? Good thing they didn't trade cash or draft picks...or it would be pretty stupid having a stack of 100s on the court .

Just give Shaq back for a game. Way less complications.

[Fitzy]

maybe it was a strategy by the heat to get rid of shaq so they can avoid replaying the end of this match

[Chaser7]

I suppose they could do that too. I remember reading about a game between the Nets and Sixers (if I recall correctly) that needed to be completed as it had been halted in the fourth quarter over some dispute, that was complicated because players had been traded between those two teams since the game that needed to be completed. They ended up finishing the previous game with the original lineups and then played the originally scheduled game with the post-trade lineups, resulting in a few players having played for two teams in the one night.

I'd be surprised if Shaq did play in that game though.

... Wait when was this?? I remember reading the article on espn saying that the last replay was between the Lakers and the Spurs..in 1982... so that means this sexer game you are talking about had to happen over 26 years ago.. How do you remember this?

[Patr1ck]

They should just keep the game the way it is. It wouldn't make much of a difference other then the fact that Atlant is in playoff contention. Just let it stand and fine Atlanta or something. Give the Heat an extra foul in the next game to their player of choice.

[JT_55]

But Atlanta didn't do anything wrong, fining them would be punishing an innocent party.

[Andrew]

... Wait when was this?? I remember reading the article on espn saying that the last replay was between the Lakers and the Spurs..in 1982... so that means this sexer game you are talking about had to happen over 26 years ago.. How do you remember this?

The game I'm referring to wasn't replayed; it was merely delayed due to some dispute and later resumed before the next scheduled game between those two teams, which is why it wasn't mentioned along with the Spurs/Lakers game; it wasn't a do-over. I'm almost sure it was a Sixers/Nets game though I could be mistaken. I remember reading about it in a book of weird basketball facts.

But Atlanta didn't do anything wrong, fining them would be punishing an innocent party.

How are they an innocent party? The personnel responsible for the error were Hawks personnel. The players and coaches did nothing wrong, but the organisation was still responsible.

[JT_55]

Oh, so it turnes out they are fined. My bad. I forgot the scorekeeper is part of the Hawks personnel.

[Andrew]

Protest Game May Include Newly Acquired Players

Certainly one for the trivia files.

[Fitzy]

its just getting ridiculous now, they shouldnt bother

[Andrew]

I suppose they have to go ahead with it since that's the ruling that has been made, no matter how silly or redundant it now seems.

[Fitzy]

http://www.nba.com/nba_news/replay_080304.html

looks like it will include the acquired players

[Oskar]

Even if they replayed that game and the heat won....will it make much of a difference for the worst team in the NBA? It's not like it would determine whether they had home court advantage in the playoffs or something.

Daamn, people happen to be stupid. Heat aren't the worst team in the NBA, they are just last on the record, is there any player in Heat that you can compare yourself to ?

[JT_55]

^If there isn't, I doubt there would be a player in the NBA that he can compare himself to either.

[Gundy]

Even if they replayed that game and the heat won....will it make much of a difference for the worst team in the NBA? It's not like it would determine whether they had home court advantage in the playoffs or something.

Daamn, people happen to be stupid. Heat aren't the worst team in the NBA, they are just last on the record, is there any player in Heat that you can compare yourself to ?

So one is not allowed to make a statement about a team if he is not superior in ability to those players... That's some faulty reasoning to say the least. Give one good reason why they aren't the worst team in the NBA.

[Andrew]

In terms of their talent pool, the Heat aren't necessarily the worst in the league so that's open to debate. However, in terms of their record they are currently the worst in the league and I believe that's what Yohance was referring to since another win or loss at this stage isn't going to make or break a Playoff run for the Heat.

Something that occurred to me is that both teams have enough players who were active in that game to complete the game without actually playing any of the new players, but activating them so that both teams would have 12 active players designated as required by the league. I can't imagine they wouldn't try and take advantage of having those new players though.