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Postby J J on Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:12 pm

Indy wrote:Silas how are you enjoying Jeff Green? I thought that was a pretty ballsy and brilliant pick after trading for that 5th spot. Solid, fundamentally sound player.

Seattle is one of my favorite cities in the world, and I would be extremely sad to lose their team, so I'll vote for Sonics in the all-star game instead of the Toine Walker hype. Actually, that whole scenario with Toine starting has the possibility to be hilarious so I think I'll do that too. 8-)


Yeah, I thought so too, even though he isn't giving off much sound right now, I believe he's a solid consistent player thus far and can't wait to see him get more touches after 2-3 years.

lol, I giggle everytime I imagine Antoine Walker wearing an All-Star Jersey :lol:
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Postby Silas on Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:50 am

I think Jeff Green has definite all star potential. He reminds me of Lamar Odom in the sense that he can handle the ball, is big, and has the quickness to guard any 3. He's also got a serviceable jumpshot, but he is certainly has to work on creating his own jumper.

What I like most about him is how tough he is. He can pound it down low with most 4's, which suprised me. I was expecting him to be too weak to deal with most bigs, but he does a good job, and he's no wimp on the boards either.

I think early in his career like this he's going to be most valuable on the defensive end. He did a good job guarding Turkey Glue last night when they played Orlando. He's going to be able to guard lots of those big, ball handling forwards, such as he did with Odom and Turk. He may be the next Nowitzki-stopper, haha, but that's not saying much.

He's definitely entertaining to watch. I feel bad for him a lot of times, he hustles around everywhere and works his butt off, but he takes some really funny shots. He'll back down some big center and take it strong to the hoop only to get it swatted back into his face. Or, he'll back down some smaller player and make a nice fadeaway move from 5 feet and brick it. But I think he'll definitely have less of those issues as he develops.

So far, I think it was a worthy trade. I like Ray Allen so much, and so did everyone in Seattle, and I'd just feel terrible for him if he had to endure so much losing like this. I'm happy that he's winning, and I think Presti made a smart move. So far, Wally has definitely been the most valuable person out of that trade, and Delonte West has been the worst. Delonte can't seem to play consistently. He commits a lot of turnovers, and he takes a lot of pull up jumpers. He plays exactly like Earl Watson, except he has more talents and a significantly lower basketball IQ, and at the point guard I think the IQ is much more important.

But to answer your question, I think Green is great. I don't think he's going to be as good as Durant, but I think he's still going to be all star good some day. He's got so much strength and quickness, and it certainly seems like he's willing to work very hard and listen to PJ.
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Postby Lamrock on Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:54 am

JosephSu wrote:lol, I giggle everytime I imagine Antoine Walker wearing an All-Star Jersey :lol:

It has already happened 3 times before. He was even a starter once. :P

So, with their 1-4 pick (I've already given up), who do you think the Sonics will take? I would assume Derrick Rose would be the first choice, but who would be the second? If Rose was gone, would Seattle pick Beasley, Mayo, or other?

Wouldn't it be something is the Sonics fail to win a single home game this season?
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Postby Silas on Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:21 pm

First of all they won't lose every home game. Secondly, with their pick, I think they're going to take a guard, but whomever they take it will be the right choice, Sam Presti doesn't seem to know how to make bad decisions.
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Postby Lamrock on Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:34 pm

I know that they won't lose every home game, but man, they truly are awful on their home floor.

I could actually see them picking Deandre Jordan in the draft if they can't get Rose. Last night's game in Orlando really showed off Seattle's lack of an inside presence. Although Seattle has had bad Center luck in the best, a top 5 Center selected by Presti could work.
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Postby Indy on Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:41 pm

The part about Green being willing to listen to PJ is a good one. He's a very coachable player who learns quickly.

If Seattle gets Derrick Rose or Michael Beasley they will be a title contender in 4 years. Hopefully it happens in Seattle and not Oklahoma City.
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Postby grusom on Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:24 pm

Indy wrote:The part about Green being willing to listen to PJ is a good one. He's a very coachable player who learns quickly.

If Seattle gets Derrick Rose or Michael Beasley they will be a title contender in 4 years. Hopefully it happens in Seattle and not Oklahoma City.


I doubt Beasley and Durant would be a good fit as they both seem quite trigger-happy. I would definitely take Rose over Beasley, and maybe even consider OJ Mayo if Rose was already taken.

Rose's strength, speed with the ball and athleticism reminds me of a young Jason Kidd. I have a very good feeling about him.
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Postby Indy on Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:28 am

Rose over Beasley is one thing, point guards like him don't come around often. But there is not a single GM that would take OJ Mayo ahead of Beasley. Especially Sam Presti when Seattle already has 2 young swingmen in Durant and Green.

I also find it funny that you call Beasley trigger happy and you'd take Mayo ahead of him. Do you realize that Beasley is scoring the ball at 60 percent this year and is yet to take over 20 shots in a game? I don't think you know who Michael Beasley is.
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Postby Silas on Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:11 pm

He's the brother of U.S. soccer star DeMarcus Beasley. But seriously, I think it's pretty sure that they'll take a guard, and I don't think they're going to take a scorer. Wilcox, Wilkins, Durant, Wally, and Green all can score, and Wally/Wilkins/Durant really like to, so adding another big scorer into the mix will do them no good.

They need a consistent play maker and reliable defender, and that is the direction I think they'll go in the draft.

As far as the game goes, with 2:30 left in the third Durant has 17 points on 8-13 shooting and 1-1 3pt. Not too bad tonight, especially when you add in 2 blocks. Though his 5 turnovers are not so nice.
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Postby Lamrock on Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:58 pm

Well, it is worth blowing my 1000 post count. The Sonics finally win a home game! 95-93 is the final score! Durant with 35, Kurt with 18 rebounds! :)
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Postby mvpshaq32 on Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:14 pm

I always liked Kurt Thomas. The Sonics have some decent big men with Wilcox and Wilkins.

And is your avatar supposed to support the voting of scrubs into the ASG?
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Postby Lamrock on Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:07 pm

Even though I'm a Sonics fan, I wish Kurt Thomas was still with the Suns, as I really want Nash to get a ring. A guy like him is only of much use on a title contender, not a team that couldn't win a home game until November 30th.

And yes, I'm supporting the voting of scrubs into ASG, plus Fatoine's picture looks funny for some reason.
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Postby Indy on Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:02 pm

That was the worst we've shot the ball all season by a long shot. We just missed open look after layup, but still were in a position to win the game at the end. I have to give the Sonics credit though they played well.

mvpshaq, where do you get that Damien Wilkins is a big man?
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Postby Lamrock on Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:14 am

I'm pissed that I didn't get to see it. About 70 of the 82 games in the season are televised on FSN, but this one isn't. (N)
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Postby mvpshaq32 on Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:21 am

Indy wrote:
mvpshaq, where do you get that Damien Wilkins is a big man?


Oh my bad, I misread his NBA profile. I thought it said he was 6-9....
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Postby grusom on Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:34 am

Indy wrote:Rose over Beasley is one thing, point guards like him don't come around often. But there is not a single GM that would take OJ Mayo ahead of Beasley. Especially Sam Presti when Seattle already has 2 young swingmen in Durant and Green.

I also find it funny that you call Beasley trigger happy and you'd take Mayo ahead of him. Do you realize that Beasley is scoring the ball at 60 percent this year and is yet to take over 20 shots in a game? I don't think you know who Michael Beasley is.


I haven't watched him play yet, only red scouting reports on him. Seems like I have take a closer look myself :P

Of course I wouldn't take Mayo over him, I was thinking more about trading down or something. Does Seattle have any additional draft picks btw?
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Postby Indy on Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:14 am

grusom wrote:I haven't watched him play yet, only red scouting reports on him. Seems like I have take a closer look myself :P


You would change your mind quickly if you saw him play. Sure, a Durant/Beasley forward combo would allow a lot of points, but Mike is going to be a 20 ppg scorer as a rookie, and he will get taken first overall. So forget about taking someone ahead of him, because he'll be the first one off the board.

grusom wrote:Of course I wouldn't take Mayo over him, I was thinking more about trading down or something. Does Seattle have any additional draft picks btw?


Seattle has the Suns first round pick this year.

You seem to think there is too much distance between Beasley, Rose and Mayo. Despite what mocks are saying now I fully expect those 3 to go 1-2-3 in the draft. There is a chance DeAndre Jordan goes ahead of Mayo, but that all depends on if a team is desperate for low post scoring.

However it shakes out, with Eric Gordon, Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, Roy Hibbert and Chase Buddinger in line after the big 4, this year is shaping out to be the draft that rivals 03 and 96 as far as the amount of potential superstars coming out. Last year was top heavy, but next year has the depth.
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Postby Silas on Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:38 pm

And the more I read about it, the less it hurts to see the Sonics lose so much., but then again I'd still like to see them win.

I have to say, it is very promising to see Kevin Durant shining in the fourth quarter. Nearly every other game he's had, he's disappeared the last couple of minutes, even if it's really close.
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Postby Silas on Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:22 am

Durant got Rookie of the Month for the West for November. Not much of a suprise I guess, but still an accomplishment none the less.
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Postby Lamrock on Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:01 pm

!!! Sonics won a game! Against the Clippers, but still... This team is way better on the road than at home.

Reverting back to the draft topic for a second, Mayo seems to keep slipping in mock drafts. NBADraft.net has him sliding to #9, and compares him to Stephon Marbury and Ben Gordon. (As opposed to Arenas a month ago) Ouch...
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