Off-season Biggest Winners/Losers.

[Martti.]

Who you think lost/won the most.. Also inthe long perspective..

Biggest winner for 07/08 :

Probably the Celtics. KG, Pierce and Allen.. Need i say moew?

Biggest loser for 07/08 :

The Trail Blazers. Sure, they got Oden, but the lost Randolph for basically Frye.. Waiving Stevie Franchise.. I thought they will sign someone.. But no.

Also they lost Magloire.. He's still a good from the bench. IMO..

Biggest winner for 08-09 - ...... :

Chicago Bulls. They lost 0 players and got experience in J. Smith and 3 rookies. Noah really good off the bench. T-Square seeing some minutes this season, probably starting for the Bulls. Gordon, Hinrich, Deng - all young and very promising..

Also the T-Wolves.. Stocked with developing youth.. Jefferson-Foye-Brewer-Gomes-Telfair-Green-McCants-Smith..

Biggest loser for 08-09 - ...... :

The Celtics? Ot the Heat.. Loosing Posey.. And probably Payton. Siging Hardavay - 36 year oled. Shaq and Zo - 37 and 35.. Sure there's Wade. But J-Will is not in his first youth... Smush was a great addition..

Sorry, if a topic has done before..

[Matt]

i disagree that Portland is the biggest loser. This group will see a lot of internal development. Webster, Outlaw, Aldridge, Roy, Jack, Rodriguez.....should all be better than last season. Getting rid of Randolph was a + since Aldridge is what the team needs more. Jamaal Magloire was a waste of roster space on this team

[Its_asdf]

Portland? I don't really think so. Like Matt already said, they've retained a lot of old pieces, but these "old" pieces are all very young with a boat load of promise. Outlaw's resigned and looking for a bigger role after he finished the season with a couple of monster performances, Webster is supposedly pissed off at how he's been playing and ready to kick some ass, Aldridge, A-Rod and Roy should be able to build on their good rookie years and of course the Blazers also got a fairly underrated pieces in James Jones, Josh McRoberts and Rudy Fernandez (is he playing this year?) in addition to Oden which everyone knows about. From top to bottom, they look like one of the youngest teams in the league and should be one of the most exciting ones. Even if they have a bummed out record, I don't think that Blazer fans will be too disappointed at the seasons' end when they see how much promise their team has.

Randolph is a 23-10 guy, but he doesn't really add much of anything else in terms of leadership and intangibles. The Blazers have really made a 180 from the Jail Blazer era and I think Kevin Pritchard should be one of the early candidates for executive of the year especially if Portland can get a playoff spot.

[Anthony15]

Biggest Loser?? Minnesota...

[grusom]

Biggest Loser?? Minnesota...

Yeah, going from a yearly first round exit (at best) to potentially building a solid franchise over rising young stars like Al Jefferson, Randy Foye, Gerald Green and whoever they get through next years very deep draft sure suck monkey balls.

IMO, it was both a very brave and very necessary move from Kevin McHale.

[Sauru]

in the short term, minn is probably the biggest loser, well behind the clippers. in the long run i dont see the wolves as losers at all

[Effekt]

I'm going to say that Minnesota is probably the biggest loser, but this is just for maybe the next few seasons, but in time they could become a good team seeing as Al Jefferson is just going to keep getting better and better.

[grusom]

I'm going to say that Minnesota is probably he biggest loser, but in time they could become a good team seeing as Al Jefferson is just going to keep getting better and better.

So they are A) A looser - and B) A winner?

Minnesota wasn't going anywhere with the team they had, and even though they might loose ten more games this season than in 06/07, being a lottery team with an aging superstar and a top 15 pick doesn't top being a lottery team with 2 first round picks, with one of them quite possibly being top 5, and a group of rising and potential stars.

[Sauru]

the point is, when doing biggest loser/winner you only take into consideration the upcoming season. in that respect minn probably is the biggest loser

[Andrew]

The Celtics were the biggest winners of the offseason, hands down. After being dealt a blow in the lottery they engineered two trades that have formed one of the most imposing trios we've seen in recent years. They've picked up a couple of solid veteran players to round out a roster that had been thinned by the blockbusters and have gone from having one of their most disappointing seasons and in desperate need of some good fortune to having a very promising outlook for the 2007/2008 NBA season.

I have to disagree with the Blazers being the biggest offseason losers as well. Randolph is a 20-10 player but he doesn't create opportunities for his teammates the way the Blazers would have liked and his attitude doesn't make him an ideal teammate. In terms of talent the Blazers "lost" the Randolph deal but there's still talent on the roster and it comes in the shape of players with good character. Darius Miles is really the only questionable character on the roster at the moment. I don't think they'll be challenging the Western powerhouses and storming to a Finals berth but they made some good moves from both a basketball and personnel standpoint this offseason.

I think there's a few teams that are in the running for being the biggest losers of the offseason. Minnesota is an easy choice because they lost the face of their franchise and probably won't have much to show for it for at least a couple of years. I think the Lakers have to be up there since they haven't made any significant moves to improve the team, Kobe's unhappy with the team's direction and now Phil Jackson has come to the "We need to be doing more to improve this team" party. The Clippers are candidates not for their moves but because of the terrible blow of losing Brand for what is likely going to be a significant part of the upcoming season.

My vote would have to go the Timberwolves though simply because losing Kevin Garnett is huge. The deal itself was probably one of the better ones on the table that didn't involve a franchise player coming the other way. The future in Minnesota isn't all gloom and doom but for now they lost the most in the 2007 offseason. The Clippers will get Brand back and Kobe's still a Laker but when KG returns he'll be in the visiting locker room.

[Anthony15]

Biggest Loser?? Minnesota...

Yeah, going from a yearly first round exit (at best) to potentially building a solid franchise over rising young stars like Al Jefferson, Randy Foye, Gerald Green and whoever they get through next years very deep draft sure suck monkey balls.

IMO, it was both a very brave and very necessary move from Kevin McHale.

Maybe in the long run, which I doubt, but right now they'll suck, that's why they're biggest loser of the offseason

[Fresh8]

Celtics are the biggest winner as people have stated. I like what the Knicks have done too but they haven't done anything to the extent of Boston.

However, for the long term, I wouldn't count Portland as losers. They did trade Randolph away but that's so that Oden and LeMarcus Aldridge are going to get playing time. Aldridge: Best scoring big man of last year's Draft and Oden: Possibly one of the better defensive bigs in the game... depending on how things pan out. I really loved the drafting done by Portland.

From getting Josh McRoberts - who's played with Oden before - and also getting Channing Frye in the trade will help boster the frontcourt. McRoberts will be someone Oden knows and will help eachother adjust to the league - a friendly face never hurts. Frye is gonna be a solid backup forward and is probably better coming off the bench than starting. And the drafting of Rudy Fernandez is top stuff for the future.

[Martti.]

Now me picking the Blazers are working.. Oden out for the season..

[grusom]

Now me picking the Blazers are working.. Oden out for the season..

yeah, I guess they regret trading away Zach Randolph now

Well, if you look at the bright side of this sad story for the blazers, they could end up getting the number one pick again next year. A Derrick Rose, OJ Mayo or Eric Gordon would look good next to a healthy Greg Oden.

[Andrew]

I'm still not sure about them being the biggest losers. Losing Oden for what should have been his rookie season is a huge blow but it's an unfortunate twist of fate rather than a poor decision to select him in the first place. Had Kevin Durant suffered a serious injury or had to undergo surgery that would cause him to miss the whole season the Sonics would be in a similar situation since they lost Lewis to free agency and traded away Ray Allen.