KG Trade a "Done Deal"

I think cyanide already posted on this in another thread, but it's looking like a done deal right now and this is gonna generate alot of discussion. It seems the original trade reported - Kevin Garnett for Al Jefferson, Rajon Rondo and Theo Ratliff - has changed. The new deal being reported is Kevin Garnett for Al Jefferson, Gerald Green, Theo Ratliff and Sebastian Telfair.

I'm still big on Gerald Green, but this trade is better in my opinion for the Celtics. With Rondo staying, they won't have to rely on Telfair as their starting point guard, and can now pick up a solid vet to share time with Rondo. A Starting lineup consisting of Rondo/Allen/Pierce/Garnett/Perkins looks great on papaer, but the bench is shaky. Beyond Tony Allen and Ryan Gomes, there isn't much else. However, this team is now a contender, especially in the Eastern Conference.

Here's the latest buzz:

NBA Market Watch: KG to Boston

by: Eric Weiss
July 30, 2007
Multiple sources close to the situation told DraftExpress Sunday that the Boston Celtics and Minnesota Timberwolves have come to terms on a trade exchanging Kevin Garnett for a package including Al Jefferson, Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair, and Theo Ratliff. The exact details of the trade aren’t known at this point, but it is believed that the deal will be completed shortly with similar parameters.

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Same information from RealGM but not the same players

The on-again, off-again deal with the Boston Celtics acquiring Kevin Garnett apparently is back on.

According to sources, the current deal on the table has the 6-foot-11 Garnett heading to Boston and the Celtics dealing away Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff's hefty expiring contract and Rajon Rondo. There may also be other players and draft picks involved.

It's not quite done, but three industry sources — including one close to the Celtics — told FOXSports.com that it's extremely close and could become official within the next 48 hours

Do Agree with you shannon, they should try to trade TElfair not Rondo

When that rumor was first circulated awhile back, Garnett reportedly nixed the deal, saying he wouldn't re-sign with Boston. I wonder what changed.

this is crazy. boston could actually become an exciting team to watch once again.
garnett/pierce/allen trio sounds almost like the best trio in the nba
and being able to keep rajon rondo is a good news too

When that rumor was first circulated awhile back, Garnett reportedly nixed the deal, saying he wouldn't re-sign with Boston. I wonder what changed.

Just remember, he said that before the draft, when all Boston had was Paul Pierce. Since then, the Celtics have acquired a perennial All Star in Ray Allen to go along with that young core. Now KG could go to Boston and replace a couple young role players and their starting power forward, which will look a whole lot more attractive to Kevin. In my opinion, it's Boston or no where. Golden State and Phoenix have the pieces, but they are in the Western Conference where wins are alot harder to come by. Chicago refused to give up Luol Deng in any deal, so the Bulls aren't in the running any more. He can either continue to lose in Minnesota, or go to an incredibly star studded team with a 3-4 year window of winning the championship.

Boston is the best place to go if he wants to win now.

When that rumor was first circulated awhile back, Garnett reportedly nixed the deal, saying he wouldn't re-sign with Boston. I wonder what changed.

They got Ray Allen.

And because I'm a whore:

Hello all,

So anyway I am playing a custom team (redrafted all of the modern NBA players) and I had the fifth pick overall.

But I didn't like the fact that my squad was a bit young. So I put on my GM suit and went to work.

After all was said and done...I came out with a DREAM starting 5 for any short-term franchisee.

C - Kendrick Perkins, 22yrs old
PF - Ryan Gomes ,24 yrs old
SF - Paul Pierce, 29 yrs old
SG - Ray Allen, 31 yrs old
PG - Kevin Garnett, 30 yrs old

Yeah, I let KG play his "natural" possition. Besides, this way he overpowers other PG's.

The problem with my team though is my bench, which consists of Brian Scalabrine, Leon Powe and other future NBA prospects.

But that all doesnt matter...I am still scratching my head...on why the computer let me have such a dominating and impressive starting 5.

I am good for the next 3 seasons at least with those 5. Then I can work on my bench in that time span.

Anyway, Im thinking of starting over because I feel real bad about what I did to a machine that does not take into account CURRENT VALUE.

Anyone else here feel bad about ripping off the computer?

When that rumor was first circulated awhile back, Garnett reportedly nixed the deal, saying he wouldn't re-sign with Boston. I wonder what changed.

Just remember, he said that before the draft, when all Boston had was Paul Pierce. Since then, the Celtics have acquired a perennial All Star in Ray Allen to go along with that young core. Now KG could go to Boston and replace a couple young role players and their starting power forward, which will look a whole lot more attractive to Kevin. In my opinion, it's Boston or no where. Golden State and Phoenix have the pieces, but they are in the Western Conference where wins are alot harder to come by. Chicago refused to give up Luol Deng in any deal, so the Bulls aren't in the running any more. He can either continue to lose in Minnesota, or go to an incredibly star studded team with a 3-4 year window of winning the championship.

Boston is the best place to go if he wants to win now.

That would explain it.

For some reason I thought that rumor was going around post-draft. The big pre-draft KG rumor I was hearing was he was heading to Golden State, in a three-way trade involving Charlotte, but the deal was canceled due to miscommunication has to who the draft pick was supposed to be, who was to be included in the trade.

And I agree, Boston seems like a good destination for him. As a Raptors fan, though, I am very concerned about the improvement in the Atlantic. If the KG to Boston deal goes through, the Celts instantly become a playoff team in the East, possibly (I'd say probably) even a top-4 seed. The Randolph-Curry experiment could net huge gains for the Knicks, though I'm skeptical about it, and personally think it will fail miserably. But there is a chance it could work, and if it does, the Knicks likely become a playoff team. That leaves New Jersey, who upgraded from Mikki Moore to Jamaal Magloire (a marginal improvement, but an improvement nonetheless), and who will also be a playoff team barring injuries, as well as the division's only real whipping boy - the Sixers.

With all that competition, not to mention the improvement of other Eastern teams, such as Charlotte and (possibly) Orlando, and the continued dominance of the perennial heavy-hitters (Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit), and it looks to be an uphill battle this year for the Raps. I don't think they've done enough to improve the team, unless Bosh, Bargnani, and Ford all improve dramatically over the off-season. That being said, I think the Raps at least would have pushed New Jersey to 7 games with a healthy Gabajosa, possibly even won the series. So in my mind they were already pretty much a second round team, which is good.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is, if this KG to Boston deal goes through, along with other player movement, the East could be a lot tougher this year.

A very reliable source on the RealGm forums has confirmed this rumour to be very close to completion. He is the webmaster of the official Al Jefferson website, and obviously has very close connections with Al and the Celtics. Apparently he is a good friend of Al from growing up too. Celtic board regulars know this guy is legit, as he was one of the first to break the Ray Allen trade before the draft, and only posts when he has legit news.

Draftexpress and ESPN has the deal as KG for Ratliff, Jefferson, Green and Telfair. Fox has it as Ratliff, Jefferson and Rondo. Rumour also is that Jaric might be part of the deal, but I;m not sure that would fit capwise.

Honestly, I think it is a very good deal for Boston. They lose a lot of depth, but have enough to go for a legit title run in my opinion. If they use their mid-level on Knight or (god-forbid as he is a Bucks favourite of mine) Charlie Bell, and sign some vets like Malik Allen or Brian Skinner (possibly Patterson too) they would make up the loss of depth.

For the wolves they get a chance to finally rebuild completely, much like the Sixers. Good group of young players to start the process with: Foye, Smith, Green, McCants, Brewer.

I'm surprised the T'Wolves would rather have Rondo than Green. They already have Foye to play point, and Green could take over Ricky Davis' (supreme pimp) spot as starting SG. Plus, it is still conceivable that Telfair could become a serviceable PG, if he keeps his damn gun at home.

Rondo's a good player, but I wouldn't want him competing for minutes with Foye.

I'm surprised the T'Wolves would rather have Rondo than Green. They already have Foye to play point, and Green could take over Ricky Davis' (supreme pimp) spot as starting SG. Plus, it is still conceivable that Telfair could become a serviceable PG, if he keeps his damn gun at home.

Rondo's a good player, but I wouldn't want him competing for minutes with Foye.

Who knows if its the T'Wolves who changed the trade, but I would rather have Rondo than Green if I were them. They are so weak at the point gaurd spot - Jaric has been losy for a while now, ditto for Troy Hudson, and Randy Foye is not a point guard. If they get Rondo, they get a great defensive point guard who will share the ball. With Green, they get someone who could become a great player, but will take minutes away from guys like Rashad McCants and Corey Brewer.

Having a young core of Al Jefferson, Corey Brewer, Rashad McCants, Rajon Rondo, Randy Foye points towards a bright future. The oldest of these guys is Foye, at just 23. The Wolves will be pretty damn bad next year, which should lead to a top 3 or so pick - adding another piece to the puzzle. Lets say Roy Hibbert?

This time next year, the Wolves could be looking at a Portland Trailblazers type "Team for the future":

C - Roy Hibbert
PF - Al Jefferson
SF - Corey Brewer
SG - Randy Foye
PG - Rajon Rondo

With a bench consisting of Rashad McCants, Ricky Davis and Craig Smith, amongst others. Also, imagine the capspace.

If Ratliff's contract is still in that deal, there wont be as much space as you might think. Roy Hibbert is my dark horse for this year, I was really impressed with his play during the tourney. Nothing overly dominant, but a stable and calming presence on both sides of the ball.

Ricky Davis is definitely the NBA's biggest pimp. Sideburns, plus one mean ass goatee = Modern day Dolemite.

As for Boston, theyre taking the philosophy of Houston in the late 90's. Remember the Barley, Drexler, Olajuwon, Pippen setup? Im not sure how pierce will adjust, going from absolute top dog to one of 3 absolute top dogs is quite a change. Theyre success depends on solid point guard play. Theyll make the playoffs for sure, but in order to get deep i think they still need a veteran PG. To be honest, with all the points they have out on the floor already, Eric Snow (or a G of that type) would be WONDERS for them.

-edit- typos. I r wee-taa-ded

If Ratliff's contract is still in that deal, there wont be as much space as you might think.

Ratliff's contract expires at the end of this coming season, clearing out almost $12 million in capspace, and they would also be free of KG's monster $22 million contract through the trade.

They effectively clear out $34 million in salaries over one season - thats well over half of the entire salary cap.

ooh. I thought ratliff's was higher than that. My bad. Lets hop the deal doesnt fall through, KG has earned his stripes 3 times over. He's one of the very few players in the league who truly deserves a title shot IMO. Hes been a model citizen and teammate, a member of the fun police , never in the headlines for doing anything stupid. Just a beast on the court, all go-no quit, heart on his jersey, lightning rod of a player.

Just think - has anyone ever questioned either his ethic, morals, talent.. anything? since being a rookie? Somebody get that man a title.

A Sam Cassel would do wonders for the Celts provided KG lands in Boston.

Roy Hibbert is my dark horse for this year, I was really impressed with his play during the tourney. Nothing overly dominant, but a stable and calming presence on both sides of the ball.

He's your dark horse?

Alright, my dark horse is Eric Gordon!

Dear god, he's almost in Boston... this might make the C's somewhat watchable this year.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7073708?MSNHPHMA

updated...

and i dont get a deal here...lol.....lakers offerd better players for garnett the these pile of shits...lol

Ok heres the deal, there will be a move made for either KG or JO but it won’t happen until August 3rd. Reason being Javaris Crittenton is being used a trade piece but because he was signed on July 3rd, there is a 30 day period where we cant move him.

OK so you have to remember, Lakers don’t want to trade KB24 so to appease him and the angry mob of Laker fans Buss will get the big ticket. KG or bust maybe?
This isn’t something that just sparked overnight. Buss started contacting Wolves owner Glen Taylor as earlier as last summer regarding KG. Buss promised Kobe a blockbuster that is why Kobe has shut up.

Wolves owner Glen Taylor is willing to trade KG, McHale is indifferent but he’ll be overruled. Just be patient. We’ve waited 3 years whats another few weeks.” — LakerLandFan24

This is all obviously speculation but a lot of fans have been saying August 3rd will be a special day in Lakers history. I guess the countdown begins to August 3rd!!!

Latest news from the Boston Globe's Celtic Blog:

July 30, 2007
Garnett agent in 'serious discussions'
By Shira Springer, Globe Staff

The Celtics and the Timberwolves could reach agreement on a deal that would bring Kevin Garnett to Boston as early as this afternoon, according to league sources. Executive director of basketball operations/GM Danny Ainge would send Al Jefferson, Gerald Green, Theo Ratliff and Sebastian Telfair to Minnesota in exchange for Garnett. But as of this morning, there still remained issues on the table to negotiate, not least of which is the player option worth $24 million that Garnett holds for the 2008-09 season.

When trade talks between Minnesota and Boston took place before this year’s draft, the option plus Garnett’s hesitancy to play in Boston, as relayed through his agent Andy Miller, were considerable sticking points. The Celtics did not want to part with Jefferson and his long-term potential if Garnett would stay in Boston for just one season. If Garnett agrees to take his player option as a condition of the trade, the Celtics also will likely look to come to reasonable terms on an extension as another condition of the deal.

“There are serious discussions in place,” said Miller this morning.

When asked about the option as well as Garnett’s willingness to play in Boston, Miller added: “Part of the discussion that is taking place is addressing those issues as well as others to see if the destination makes sense for all parties. Everything is part of the overall picture as to how to bring this to a conclusion or go in a different direction.”

And more news from the Boston Herald:

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July 30th, 2007
Sources saying Garnett deal is done
Posted by Steve Bulpett at 12:06 pm

Sources this morning are confirming that the Celtics’ deal for Kevin Garnett is essentially completed.

One involved source said the final package will have the Celts sending Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair, Theo Ratliff and a No. 1 pick to Minnesota to acquire Garnett.

Further word is that the Celts and Garnett have reached an agreement in principle on a contract extension. You may recall a report here that Danny Ainge would not do the deal without such a guarantee of Garnett’s presence, and it appears now that the perennial All-Star is willing to forego the opt-out in his current deal for next summer and cast his lot with Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and the Celtics.

Well, seems like it's almost official then. Paul Pierce must be happy, not needing to waste another year of his career with a "ever-re-building" Celtics team.

Articles on this trade are flooding in one after another, but this one by far holds the biggest news (if its true) since the original trade proposal was announced.

July 30, 2007
New twists in Garnett talks
By Shira Springer, Globe Staff

Kevin Garnett soon could become the newest member of the Celtics, multiple league sources said this afternoon but two of the sources cautioned that any trade may not be as imminent as some early reports indicated.

As the trade currently stands, the Celtics would send Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, Theo Ratliff and two first-round picks to the Timberwolves for Garnett.

Al Jefferson is not included in the deal at the moment.

It is uncertain how the teams would deal with Garnett's trade clause that calls for a 15 percent salary increase.

As of this morning, there still remained issues on the table to negotiate, not the least of which is the player option worth $24 million that Garnett holds for the 2008-09 season.

“There are serious discussions in place,” Andy Miller, Garnett's agent, said this morning.

When asked about the option as well as Garnett’s willingness to play in Boston, Miller added: “Part of the discussion that is taking place is addressing those issues as well as others to see if the destination makes sense for all parties. Everything is part of the overall picture as to how to bring this to a conclusion or go in a different direction.”

When trade talks between Minnesota and Boston took place before this year’s draft, the option plus Garnett’s hesitancy to play in Boston, as relayed through his agent, were considerable sticking points. If Garnett agrees to take his player option as a condition of the trade, the Celtics also will likely look to come to reasonable terms on an extension as another condition of the deal.

If the Celtics don't end up giving up Al Jefferson, well, I don't know what to say. I say just give them the title now, and Kevin McHale's rep will sink even lower - somehow?

I smell BS, KG for basically Gerald Green?

And we're supposed to believe 29 other teams can't offer something better than Green & 2 bottom picks (assuming the team does well w/ KG on it)?

Even if this works out, Jefferson is gone at the end of his rookie contract anyway. Boston can't support 4 max contracts, not even the Knicks can do that.

I don't believe that deal for a second.

ok, i am at work and dont have much time, but i have to say



WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm reading that the Al Jefferson speculation depends on Garnett's contract. I don't know the full story right now, but it seems that if Garnett won't agree with a contract extension to keep him from opting out after one season, Jefferson will not be included in the trade - instead replaced by 2 first round picks.

This is really getting interesting.

Ok maybe im missing something here, but if KG does say he's opting out after 1 year, why even trade 2 first round picks for him?

They trade the first round picks to keep Al as insurance. That way, the deal still goes down and they keep Al Jefferson just incase Garnett opts out after one season.

I'm still not quite sure how it's working, or if Shira Springer is full of shit, but more details are coming in through articles and sources on RealGM, so we should know soon enough.

EDIT: That was quick, Jefferson is back in the deal. Jefferson/Green/Gomes/Telfair/Ratliff and two 1st's is a huge package. Minnesota may have the brightest future in the league (along with Portland) and Boston has about a 3 year window to get a championship - or multiple championships.

July 30, 2007
Jefferson back in mix
By Shira Springer, Globe Staff

Al Jefferson is back in the trade talks between the Celtics and Timberwolves.

As the trade currently stands, the Celtics would send Jefferson, Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, Theo Ratliff, and two first-round picks to the Timberwolves for Kevin Garnett.