David Lee - best white American player?

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Postby kevC on Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:48 am

Just because he's surrounded by weak rebounders doesn't make him a good rebounder. That is a weak argument. A good rebounder gets rebounds no matter what.
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Postby rabbitx on Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:30 am

Im probably biased, but I beleive Steve Blake to be quite athletic, or at least a good baller.
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Postby rl564411 on Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:37 am

I like hinrich!! :) :!:
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Postby Sauru on Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:40 am

so the point of this thread is to prove if you are white and american you suck at basketball, better stick to nascar ya damn redneck hillbilly bastards
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Postby rl564411 on Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:56 am

[quote="Sauru"]so the point of this thread is to prove if you are white and american you suck at basketball, better stick to nascar ya damn redneck hillbilly bastards[/quote]

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Postby Carmo on Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:42 pm

I reckon Bogut is the best white Australian player.
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Postby Laxation on Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:02 pm

kevC wrote:Just because he's surrounded by weak rebounders doesn't make him a good rebounder. That is a weak argument. A good rebounder gets rebounds no matter what.

Put Lee on a team that has other rebounders, and see if he gets them - no matter what.
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oh lee?

Postby NovU on Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:15 pm

haven't really paid any attention to the knicks
so what's david lee like? hustle player like najera?
does he really deserve more minutes than channing frye?

potential wise, i thought sean may was purty good from 2006 draft pool like next zach randolph.
how does he compare to him & other i mentioned?
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Postby Ty-Land on Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:35 pm

rl564411 wrote:
Sauru wrote:so the point of this thread is to prove if you are white and american you suck at basketball, better stick to nascar ya damn redneck hillbilly bastards


:lol:


That textbook spam. Keep it up and see what happens.

Back on topic: I think it would have to be either Brad Miller or Kirk Hinrich. Miller is an All-Star, Hinrich has led his team to the playoff for 2 consecutive seasons and is a top quality PG that is still growing as a player.
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Postby Matt on Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:50 pm

Miller was decent a long long time ago....hes nothing special
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Postby Ty-Land on Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:04 pm

David Lee isn't that special either, but I do see your point. Miller is half the player he used to be, and that was only an above average centre in a league lacking high quality bigs.
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Re: oh lee?

Postby The X on Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:19 pm

zanshadow wrote:haven't really paid any attention to the knicks
so what's david lee like? hustle player like najera?
does he really deserve more minutes than channing frye?

potential wise, i thought sean may was purty good from 2006 draft pool like next zach randolph.
how does he compare to him & other i mentioned?

David Lee is a hustle player than Najera, although he's more proficient at scoring around the hoop, is a bit more athletic & has the potential to add a midrange jumper to his game (if he does, ink him as a starting PF for the next 10 years)....

yes, he does deserve more minutes than Channing Frye....Frye has & always will suck....I don't know why everyone jumped on his bandwagon, he's nothing special at all....sure he might be able to become a big guy who can hit a midrange shot & best case scenario is he becomes PJ Brown....that's best case scenario though....Frye stinks....

May is fairly good....he never had potential that Randolph did coming out....he appears to be a little injury prone....May could become a starter in the NBA if he gets his body & motor right, stays injury free & works on his game....otherwise, he'll be a good big guy off the bench....

Ty-Land wrote:David Lee isn't that special either, but I do see your point. Miller is half the player he used to be, and that was only an above average centre in a league lacking high quality bigs.

unfortunately for me as a David Lee fan from back in the day, Lee has gone from unheralded (which I liked) to bandwagoned, a lot of which is due to his Rookie Game MVP....

but Lee is a special player because of his motor....if he adds a midrange jumpshot, he's going to be in the top half of forwards in the league (he's never going to where Boozer is or any of those top PF's but he can be a 14-10 guy for most of his career & be a helluva lot better than the Kwame's & Shelden Williams' of the world)....
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Postby shadowgrin on Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:32 pm

Silas wrote:I don't care what anyone says, Jason Kidd is white, white as white. He has to be less than half black and if he is than he can count as white. If Mike Bibby is black, Jason Kidd is white.

Are you retarded before or did it start when you became a Korver fan?
As what is said in this thread, Jason Kidd is half-black, so is Mike Bibby, and Tony Parker.
wiki on Kidd wrote:Kidd was born in San Francisco, California, the oldest of three children of Steve and Anne Kidd. His father is African American and his mother is Irish-American

wiki on Parker wrote:His father, Tony Parker Sr., an African-American, played basketball at Loyola University Chicago, as well as professionally overseas. His mother, Pamela Firestone, was a Dutch model.

wiki on Bibby wrote:Although appearing to be white in skin Bibby is actually a mix of races. His mother black, and father white

Even Anthony Parker, Candace Parker's brother, looks white:
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..I'm still wondering about Kevin Martin though. Black? Latino? Both?
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Postby Gedas on Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:39 pm

This has to be one of the more absurd threads recently.
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Postby scrub on Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:00 pm

What about Shane Battier. I know he's very dark but is he a dark white man or a light black man. JASON KIDD IS WHITE!!! He may be a halfcast or whatever but look at him in those pics. I've always wondered about Kevin Martin. Deron Williams is a very light black guy. I'd say the best white American would be Jason Kidd.
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Postby grusom on Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:25 pm

This argument is stupid. Colour and race isn't the same thing. Black and white isn't the same as afro-american (wich is a stupid word, since it implies that all black Americans are from Africa) and caucasian. Jason Kidd is half caucasian and half afro-american - but he is still white. Michael Jackson is afro-american, but he is still white.
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Postby shadowgrin on Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:42 pm

Battier is also 'black' or afro-american, same with Deron.

grusom brought up Michael Jackson, now I'm just confused which is which.
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Postby Laker Socks on Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:46 pm

Michael Jackson is not white.

He used to be black, now he's neither white nor black.
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Postby Jackal on Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:54 pm

I don't care what Michael Jackson is, all I know is that I love the feeling of his velvet gloves caressing my balls.
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Postby shadowgrin on Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:00 am

The synthetic composite balls or leather balls?
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Postby Silas on Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:01 am

shadowgrin wrote:
Silas wrote:I don't care what anyone says, Jason Kidd is white, white as white. He has to be less than half black and if he is than he can count as white. If Mike Bibby is black, Jason Kidd is white.

Are you retarded before or did it start when you became a Korver fan?
As what is said in this thread, Jason Kidd is half-black, so is Mike Bibby, and Tony Parker.


I know the man is "half black" and I know bibby is half black, the point of my statement was that he looks so damn white that, if bibby is half black and counts as black, than jason kidd should count as white because he looks far, far less than half black, even though he may be, it is quite hard for me to really believe when you look at it. I'd love to see a picture of his parents.
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Postby grusom on Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:15 am

Silas wrote:

I know the man is "half black" and I know bibby is half black, the point of my statement was that he looks so damn white that, if bibby is half black and counts as black, than jason kidd should count as white because he looks far, far less than half black, even though he may be, it is quite hard for me to really believe when you look at it. I'd love to see a picture of his parents.


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Postby shadowgrin on Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:23 am

Thread topic analysis:
best white American player - race/color argument - Jackal's sexual abuse from the King of Pop - Silas' mom.
You guys are the best. :lol:

Anyway, carry on with the topic of Silas' mom...
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Postby Darko_Milicic on Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:15 am

Michael Jackson is black, he is genetically black, but his skin is white.
Jason Kidd is biracial, even he has white skin, he's mixed because his father is black and his mother white. The same with mike bibby, he has white skin but he's mixed.
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Postby Darko_Milicic on Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:21 am

Michael Jackson is black, he is genetically black, but his skin is white.
Jason Kidd is biracial, even he has white skin, he's mixed because his father is black and his mother white. The same with mike bibby, he has white skin but he's mixed.
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