Kobe, LeBron, or Wade

[K0beStar]

Who has the better post and wing moves?
Personally Kobe backin down a defender in the post and as the double team comes he fakes one way and turns around and fades near the baseline is just pure perfection.

[beau_boy04]

Kobe is better in everything.

-Supreme court vision
-Amazing ballhandling abilities
-Highest vertical jump
-Sweet jumpshot and fadeaway
-Great shooting technique
-Better long range shooting
-Leadership
-Motivator
-Strong shooting off balance
-Better free throw shooter
-3 championships

[Matt]

Kobe obviously,LeBron doesn't really have post moves and Wade doesn't post.

Carmello Anthony though, is the best wing post man facing up.....that first step & spin is one of the most unstoppable moves.

[Isaiah]

-Highest vertical jump

doesnt LeBron jump higher than Kobe?

[Elbeen]

-Highest vertical jump

doesnt LeBron jump higher than Kobe?

lebron jumps much higher, i remember a video when lebron blocked a shot his, upper body was higher than the rim

[Slamduncan]

Kobe

[frenchy]

Wade (he won the skill challenge)

[shadowgrin]

Kobe is better in everything.

What have you been smoking?

Supreme court vision

I'll have to go with Lebron on this one.

Motivator

If that's the case Odom and Smush would be more consistent.

3 championships

Is this a fanboy opinion? Just because he has 3 championships he's already better at everything else?

[LakersRule24]

Why is this a question? Kobe is a top 5 post player in the league and the best overall perimeter post player to ever play since Jordan. Kobe has the step back, fake, fadeaway, drive, spin, everything you can think of in the post. Kobe BY FAR in the post. And Kobe is better than Wade and Bron in every aspect of the game other than numbers.

[K0beStar]

Just watch the fadeaway, its beautiful. Watch the one at the 0:26 - 0:30 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h8p1hL6-UU

[Axel]

Does Kobe give the best head too?

[shadowgrin]

Axel, you bastard, if you're going to flame fanboys at least stay on-topic.

[LakersRule24]

Motivator

If that's the case Odom and Smush would be more consistent.

Only part I disagree with. Why isn't Odom inconsistent? Because he's just Lamar man. He tends to fade away from the game. If he went into the post and demanded the ball on every single possession, do you think Kobe wouldn't give it to him? And Smush is a cancer. This is the guy that bashed the Zen master. Nuff said.

[BigKaboom2]

This thread is so, so evil. No more Who's Better threads, for the love of God.

[shadowgrin]

Motivator

If that's the case Odom and Smush would be more consistent.

Only part I disagree with. Why isn't Odom inconsistent? Because he's just Lamar man. He tends to fade away from the game. If he went into the post and demanded the ball on every single possession, do you think Kobe wouldn't give it to him? And Smush is a cancer. This is the guy that bashed the Zen master. Nuff said.

Is that double negative?
You're asking why is Odom not inconsistent thereby making him a consistent player?
Wha? Lay-off smoking them funny cigarettes.

If Kobe is really such the motivator, then he'll find a way to make Odom post up and Smush behave himself for the sake of the team, as you addressed.

Don't make me cite examples of a certain Bulls shooting guard with jersey number 23. As what BigKaboom2 said, it could get nasty.

[JJ_Weir]

Kobe is better player overall compared to lebron and wade, he has more heart and passion for the game, prolly not as good court sense then bron and wade. Kobe has it all in offence, he can shoot anywhere past that half court line lol whether it is off the dribble or catch and shoot, he very good one on one player but i would much rather Lebron and Wade in a team situation, just because they work more effectively with their team and have more chemistry then kobe.... but i still reckon kobe is better in the post and on the wing compared to lebron and wade, when he gets hot, nothing gets in his way. but the sad thing is when is isnt on fire he still jacks up the same shots and even his coach says he puts up too many shots, (has games where he can be 7 from 26) it is good tho this season he is changing his game up more now, one game he will b a scorer and the next he will be more of a playmaker......ENUFF SAID lmao

[LakersRule24]

Is that double negative?
You're asking why is Odom not inconsistent thereby making him a consistent player?
Wha? Lay-off smoking them funny cigarettes.

If Kobe is really such the motivator, then he'll find a way to make Odom post up and Smush behave himself for the sake of the team, as you addressed.

Don't make me cite examples of a certain Bulls shooting guard with jersey number 23. As what BigKaboom2 said, it could get nasty.

It's called a typo.

How can Kobe motivate Odom to shoot when his nature is to pass the ball? And how can Kobe motivate Smush when all he cares about is his stats for his contract year?

[shadowgrin]

Kobe could motivate Odom to change his ways?

If Kobe can change his ways from a shooter to a passer during last year's playoffs then he should be able to motivate Odom to do the same. Kobe has every right to demand that from Odom since Kobe is the leader of the team and he has shown that he himself can do it.

As for Smush, I also think he's near hopeless. The guy's a punkass.

[diddy]

and KOBE is the most selfish player of those 3!

[Oznogrd]

And Kobe is better than Wade and Bron in every aspect of the game other than numbers.

I'm not gonna lie, this made me laugh my ass off

Look, Kobe is a fantastic player, as much as i hate his actions, his mouth, and the fact he thinks he's the alltime greatest (not stated but implied by his actions and demands of the lakers organization) i cannot take away this boy can ball. But so can Lebron and Wade. You want the difference between the 3? Kobes been in the league MUCH MUCH longer. When Lebron and Wade are Kobe's age and doing the same thing as kobe, then we can talk....

[Kobe ftw]

Look, Kobe is a fantastic player, as much as i hate his actions, his mouth, and the fact he thinks he's the alltime greatest (not stated but implied by his actions and demands of the lakers organization) i cannot take away this boy can ball. But so can Lebron and Wade. You want the difference between the 3? Kobes been in the league MUCH MUCH longer. When Lebron and Wade are Kobe's age and doing the same thing as kobe, then we can talk....[/quote]

Kobe is way way better then all others there in Nba., most of u hate him because hes the best!

[TSquared]

and yet another fan boy waiting to be flamed!!

[LakersRule24]

Kobe could motivate Odom to change his ways?

If Kobe can change his ways from a shooter to a passer during last year's playoffs then he should be able to motivate Odom to do the same. Kobe has every right to demand that from Odom since Kobe is the leader of the team and he has shown that he himself can do it.

As for Smush, I also think he's near hopeless. The guy's a punkass.

Kobe can't motivate Odom to play in the post because Phil doesn't want him to. And Kobe was able to turn Odom into a good player earlier this year(mostly because Odom for some reason decided to be aggressive). But after his injury he has simply not been the same. His three point % went down. His shooting % went down and he became that passive Odumb again. That's just how he is.

[shadowgrin]

Stop contradicting yourself, you're the one who said Odom should post-up.
I only replied that Kobe should motivate Odom to do whatever he needs to do to help the team.

He tends to fade away from the game. If he went into the post and demanded the ball on every single possession, do you think Kobe wouldn't give it to him

If Kobe is really such the motivator, then he'll find a way to make Odom post up

How can Kobe motivate Odom to shoot when his nature is to pass the ball?

Kobe could motivate Odom to change his ways?

Now you don't want Odom to post because Phil doesn't want him to? You should have brought more thought into your first post before saying that Odom should post-up.

Kobe was able to turn Odom into a good player earlier this year(mostly because Odom for some reason decided to be aggressive). But after his injury he has simply not been the same. His three point % went down. His shooting % went down and he became that passive Odumb again. That's just how he is.

Kobe should better motivate Odom to play that's helpful to the team on a constant basis and not play like "the way he is". Kobe should motivate Odom to change his ways, that's my entire point all along. (I hate going in cirlces in an argument).

[LakersRule24]

Does Lamar have to listen to Phil? Like MJ used to make his own plays out of the triangle? If Lamar puts himself in the post and scores, maybe Phil will leave him there more often. Kobe doesn't motivate him to play helpful because Phil tells Odom not to play in the post. Now that's one of Kobe's problems that many don't see. He does what Phil tells him and it takes it to an extreme. He almost never plays out of the triangle like MJ and Pippen did.