make your picks right now: next player to bust 50 on utah..

[j.23]

in a span of 4 days, the jazz managed to let two players bust out 50+ points against them; ray allen and gilbert arenas in particular. there's also mcgrady's 44 point outburst from the week before and kobe's 52 point effort in the end of november. oh shit, almost forgot about michael redd's 57 point game in mid november, albeit that came with a loss too, but still.

so quick recap -- 4 people in a span of 2 months busting out 50+ points against one team. is that some sort of record?

my pick for the next guy to bust 50 is probably vince carter, on the 29th of this month.

[Shi]

Catmelo Anthony,26th. he'll be back by then. I know that's not gonna happen,but the hell with AI and JR,Melo's back and he's hungry for points!

[---]

^ Catmelo Anthony

Carmelo would be my guess to, but then again he may be rusty like JR was. Gilbert is always a threat for 50, and considering he's burned the Jazz before Arenas is just the kind of guy who will try do it again, but then theres his lingering injury thats efecting his shooting. Vince Carter seems like the obvious choice but any of these guys could drop 50 on Utah.

[cyanide]

I bet nobody else will bust 50 on Utah this season.

(It could happen )

[Anthony15]

Melo all the way, he's tired of not playing, his fault tho. Hopefully 50 on Utah, would be great!

[BigKaboom2]

Lebron February 14.

Okur was just immense in that game today. 38 pts, 9 rebs, and a couple threes that I swear were from the parking lot. He was unconscious.

[LakersRule24]

Ever since Kirilenko said he shut down Kobe, his defense has crumbled apart.

[joejam999]

Not to mention all those players get tons of FT's and any calls they want. When did AK ever say that? AK is not cocky like that.

[Matthew]

lol, of course the Jazz players don't foul at all, its the ref's fault

[joejam999]

lol, of course the Jazz players don't foul at all, its the ref's fault

You probly didnt even watch any of those games.

[Matthew]

Of course I didn't, Utah games are horrible to watch.

But enlighten me, give me 3 examples of where there was no foul and yet a foul was called (with evidence, not "i didnt think he fouled him").

[joejam999]

Of course I didn't, Utah games are horrible to watch.

But enlighten me, give me 3 examples of where there was no foul and yet a foul was called (with evidence, not "i didnt think he fouled him").

Go look at the Wade thread. Everyone knows he gets all the calls he wants. Anyone knows the superstars get the calls and this leauge is now messed up with little touch fouls.

[Matthew]

Excuses..

[joejam999]

Excuses..

You know its true. So many fouls that you cant play D = 50 points.

[Matthew]

It's not true. Basketball is a game where the player with the ball has such a huge advantage over a defensive player. That's the nature of the game. If an offensive player is in ryhtym, there's virtually nothing a defender can do but foul (except for rely on help defense, but if the offensive player has good shooters/scorers, then thats not an option).

If it's a foul, it's a foul. It doesn't matter how many times one individual gets fouled or goes to the line.

Why can't fanboys just accept their team got burned without blaming officials?

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joejam999, you know superstars get calls, but don't act like it only happens against Utah.

Fouls weren't event that big of a factor in the four 50 point games against Utah.

Kobe Bryant made 12/15 FT's in his 52 point game; he would have finished with 40 if he hadn't gone to the free throw once.

Michael Redd made 15-17 FT's in his 57 point game, he would have finished with 42 if he hadn't gone to the free throw once.

Ray Allen made 12-12 FT's in his 54 point game, he would have finished with 42 if he hadn't gone to the free throw once.

Gilbert Arenas made 16-17 FT's in his 51 point game, he would have finished with 35 if he hadn't gone to the free throw once.

So you see, even if they hadn't gone to the line once (which is extremely rare for any player getting the majority of shots - superstar or not) they all still would of have huge games. It's not the refs, it's just that these guys are that good.

[sucram]

It's not true. Basketball is a game where the player with the ball has such a huge advantage over a defensive player. That's the nature of the game. If an offensive player is in ryhtym, there's virtually nothing a defender can do but foul (except for rely on help defense, but if the offensive player has good shooters/scorers, then thats not an option).

If it's a foul, it's a foul. It doesn't matter how many times one individual gets fouled or goes to the line.

Why can't fanboys just accept their team got burned without blaming officials?

[BigKaboom2]

If an offensive player is in ryhtym, there's virtually nothing a defender can do but foul (except for rely on help defense, but if the offensive player has good shooters/scorers, then thats not an option).

I don't think Bowen or Artest would take too kindly to that statement.

I would also say that Utah's perimeter defenders aren't very good, but then again they weren't expected to be before the season. I also believe that refs do call a lot of silly fouls, though I can't imagine their motivation.

I've just watched too many games involving either Steve Javie, Dick Bavetta, a young male referee, or any female referee (not meant to be sexist - there just aren't any decent ones employed by the NBA) where I could sense some sort of grudge or reinterpretation of the rules on their part.

Once a player like Wade or Arenas starts getting a foul call every time they jump into a defender while taking a layup, the defenders start shying away from contact and that's when the floodgates open for the offensive player. The FT totals aren't as inflated because the defenders have to back off for fear of fouling out.

Of course I would agree that these players are excellent, but they don't need a referee's help in my opinion.

[Matthew]

Even the great defenders like Artest can be helpless. Remember when Artest was at his peak and was dpoy in 2004, and a rookie by the name of Dwayne Wade was abusing him in the second round of the playoffs?

As for Bowen, all I need to say is Kobe Bryant and how he has dominated the spurs in the playoffs gone by.

As for the fouls where the offensive player initiates contact, then yes, I do agree that is tough for defender to avoid. But there are plenty of non calls that defenders get away with as well, so it's pretty even.

[joejam999]

I never said it only happens to the jazz. The superstar calls need to stop. Does anyone agree with that?

[Matt]

what the hell? Everyone knows that the just try to play 'rough'. That's why everyone gets FT's against them.

[ThaLiveKing]

I bet nobody else will bust 50 on Utah this season.

(It could happen )

D-Wade If not then Kobe again

[volsey]

I agree that certain players get tot the line too much and all, but they get to the line alot against every team, not just Utah. So theres no reason Utah shouldnt be able to stop them from scoring 50

[[Q]]

Lebron February 14.

I agree. They play some shitty teams as far as offense goes (except for Phoenix). but Phoenix doesn't have any ballhogs that need to score.

Slight chance that VC will do it.

[Buckley]

it aint gonna be melo as he and AI will split most of the pts with not much room to get 50. i see lebron getting 50 however and that makes the most sense.