Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:05 pm
The NBA is an entirely different league, and everybody knows how Stern is strict when it comes to looking professional and maintaining a strong reputation.
Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:20 pm
R.J. wrote:Mofo wrote:CMJ wrote:Yeah it wasnt a sucker punch, it just looked worse because Collins didnt protect himself which i dont understand why.
Collins wasn't exactly given a lot of time to react, Melo, had just turned the corner on the crowd of players that was to Collins' right. Right when Melo turned appeared, he immediately swung. By the time Mardy saw him, he was already in the start of the action of punching Collins.
Haha, trying to sugarcoat the punch. We see right through your bias.
Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:37 am
Indy wrote:No, you are so incredibly wrong, its unbelievable. I can't even believe someone would think that way. First of all, security before games is not tight. They have you spread your jacket, and maybe they feel one pocket. Usually they don't even touch you, or even use the metal detectors that are in their hands. A fan could very easily be carrying a weapon, and after all that had happened already, you have to take that fan out. You can't let him continue to roam around the floor, are you fucking stupid? True, it would be better to let the security handle it, but they were nowhere to be found. That guy had to get taken down, and Jermaine noticed him. I guarantee that 99% of the world would act the same way in that situation. How could you see a fan jump on to the court during a very ugly brawl where fans proved to be out to hurt the players and not do anything to him.
Amazing that people actually argue that a player can be more dangerous then a fan. That's unbelievable to me.
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:38 am
el badman wrote:To me, it does make sense that fans are potentially more dangerous than players. For all we know, that fat ass at the Palace (or the other dude that Artest started punching) might have carried a knife or something...
Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:23 am
Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:36 pm
That's the keyword, potentially more dangerous than players. My problem with the reasoning is the assumption that the fan is armed. If a fan is armed, then there's problem with security, and further, I'd be concerned about security. If security is in place, then I would have less to worry about whether fans are armed or not. Like I said before, I find it easier to assume that a fan is unarmed than to assume an armed fan in an arena where security is enforced.
Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:41 pm
dan_suth wrote:Besides, every fan enters through the same "gate" (I wouldn't even call it a gate), so it sounds like you don't quite know what you're talking about.
Knowing that the security sucks in a place like Los Angeles is freaky, but luckily it's not so common that knife or gunfights take place at basketball games.
Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:12 pm
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Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:02 am
dan_suth wrote:They don't have metal detectors at all sports arenas? I'm kind of shocked about that - as I don't think I've ever been to a sports event without passing through a metal detector.
Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:02 am
Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:41 am
cyanide wrote:What about standing metal detectors rather than security with the handheld ones? Virtually every major retail store has those, so it's pretty nuts to know that sport arenas don't have them.
Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:55 am
Indy wrote:dan_suth wrote:They don't have metal detectors at all sports arenas? I'm kind of shocked about that - as I don't think I've ever been to a sports event without passing through a metal detector.
They all have this in their handBut I've hardly ever seen them use it.
Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:52 am
Indy wrote:Plus, the ones they have in retail stores aren't metal detectors, they are sensors specifically for their merchandise.
Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:11 pm
air gordon wrote:yeh- at the United Center it seems they do it randomn. it's pretty damn easy to sneak liquor (amongst other things) into games
Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:44 pm
Mofo wrote:R.J. wrote:Mofo wrote:CMJ wrote:Yeah it wasnt a sucker punch, it just looked worse because Collins didnt protect himself which i dont understand why.
Collins wasn't exactly given a lot of time to react, Melo, had just turned the corner on the crowd of players that was to Collins' right. Right when Melo turned appeared, he immediately swung. By the time Mardy saw him, he was already in the start of the action of punching Collins.
Haha, trying to sugarcoat the punch. We see right through your bias.
Who was that aimed at, me or CMJ? If it's me, I'm not sugarcoating the punch. I'm wondering how the heck is CMJ expecting Collins to actually have time to react to even protect himself. I'm going against his non-valid point that he brought up when trying to defend Melo.