New Zero-Tolerance policy

[Matt]

[Matt]

[Matt]

sorry bout the trpl post, my comp was screwing up. The thing i've noticed is that referees have their own interpretation/tolerance level. In the Magic/76ers game, players were able to display emotions and talk to the referees without getting T'd up.....and that game was pretty physical.

[ThaLiveKing]

LOL. . .Adam Morrison got T'd Up for some small BS last night, I never laughed so hard

[ixcuincle]

Same site gave me a myspace bulletin informing me to "Save Sheed"

To: NBA Fans

Dear Mr. Stern,

As NBA fans who Love This Game, we beg you to get rid of the Zero Tolerance Technical foul rule that you have put in place this season. We as fans understand you are trying to clean up the league, but we like the game with emotion and flair. How can you take the beloved game of basketball we love so much and sterilize it? We understand the need for technical fouls, but this has gone too far.

Do you expect fans to sit in our seats and not make a peep when our team wins a game on a buzzer beating shot? No we can't its the excitement of the game, we can't help but root for our team. If we can't keep quiet how do you expect a player to in the heat of battle?

We as fans would like to stop questioning calls that change the courses of games. You have put too much power in the hands of referees that are inconsistent and who at times seem unfair. It makes it hard for any NBA fan to question that a game has been called fairly.

Most of all please save Sheed. We happen to think that he's been treated unfairly over the past few years. Even you have rescinded quite a few of the meaningless techs he's gotten just for the fact that he is Rasheed Wallace. So Need4Sheed.com along with NBA fans around the world are pleading to you to SAVE SHEED and all the other NBA players that will surely be affected by your long arm of the Law.

SAVE SHEED and the game of Basketball as we know it!

Sincerely,
The Undersigned

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/ ... gi?n4sheed

[Zoom]

i saw an NBL game last year where one guy was called for reaching in on a dribbler in the back court. he yelled "AARGH!" and punched the air in an angry fashion. the refs let it go, as it appeared more like he was angry at himself for fouling, rather than the ref for calling it. i didn't see the rasheed situation, but it sounds a similar thing.

If I'm not mistaken, Sheed just rejected some dude and he was on his feet after and shrugging his shoulders... to the crowd. That's what I could make of it... I can't remember if a foul had been called or not. But the look on Sheed's face when he got the T was pretty funny.

[Laxation]

If I'm not mistaken, Sheed just rejected some dude and he was on his feet after and shrugging his shoulders... to the crowd. That's what I could make of it... I can't remember if a foul had been called or not. But the look on Sheed's face when he got the T was pretty funny.

You all seen what I did," Wallace said. "I said, 'Oh!' on the first tech because it was a good block. Then on the second one, the dude (Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva) threw an elbow and I told the other two refs that I ain't going to be going for that. I can deal with losing. "I can deal with having a bad game and I can deal with shooting woes. But I can't deal with no dirty play and no cheating. "Then I told that to Lou Grillo, and he said something back and I said, 'I am just letting everyone know,' and that's when they gave me that second tech and threw me out."

Hes got no hope of playing 60 full games this year

[Zoom]

My bad man! I was watching Inside the NBA and the guys were saying how he was trying to get the crowd going. His words are more reliable!

[Andrew]

Ive heard this said alot, and I dont know if its just me - being a pistons fan - but does anyone else think it will slow down for most people, but for others the refs will remain tight as a cats asshole?

It wouldn't surprise me if that was the case.

If the league insists on zero tolerance they need to clearly define what is acceptable and what is unacceptable so that the referees can make consistent calls. An effort should also be made to distinguish displays of excitement or self-disgust from behaviour that may warrant a technical.

EDIT: I'm not usually a fan of Stephen A. Smith but I agree with his assessment of the situation in this column.

[BIG GREEN]

The NBA claims that it's not Zero Tolerance....it's a crack down. The proof is in the pudding. I like Stephen A's article there....hopefully the fans start raising their voices. I think we all have more clout as a unit than the players/coaches/team GM's.

[Matt]

on a postive not, they are calling palming and travels on the perimeter

[Laxation]

on a postive not, they are calling palming and travels on the perimeter

even the 2003 draft class?

[Andrew]

on a postive not, they are calling palming and travels on the perimeter

I've noticed that too. They've also been calling more three second violations and there was even a lane violation call the other day. The decision to crack down on those infractions is definitely for the better.

EDIT: This one's a little more sarcastic, but the sentiment remains the same:
Can't argue with the ref? Why, that's almost un-American!

[Zoom]

Since there is some good, I still thnik the refs need to sit down and analyse the calls and see if anything is necesary...

They should make two changes... actually make consistent calls and allow leeway for players to react...

Secondly, they should allow captains to argue with the ref for their team mates.

That's my 2 cents.

[Dan's Brain]

Secondly, they should allow captains to argue with the ref for their team mates.

I was just wondering, i've never really noticed if team captains have any official responsibility in the NBA. In other sports, they flip the coin, and choose which end to play towards, or whether to bat or bowl. What about in the NBA? I'm only asking because i agree with what you've said.

[Zoom]

Well, time to give them respponsibility... maybe its more offcourt theyre involved. You're right, despite the player saying, 'i'm the leader now, i'm gonna help our team'... they dont do much.

[Laxation]

EDIT: This one's a little more sarcastic, but the sentiment remains the same:
Can't argue with the ref? Why, that's almost un-American!

He doesnt get the point... Sheed is pissed off about it because he is getting called for shit that no one else is.

[Matt]

even the 2003 draft class?

i wouldnt push it that far.

[Andrew]

I was just wondering, i've never really noticed if team captains have any official responsibility in the NBA. In other sports, they flip the coin, and choose which end to play towards, or whether to bat or bowl. What about in the NBA? I'm only asking because i agree with what you've said.

Captains are the only players who can talk to the referees during a timeout.

[bigh0rt]

EDIT: This one's a little more sarcastic, but the sentiment remains the same:
Can't argue with the ref? Why, that's almost un-American!

He doesnt get the point... Sheed is pissed off about it because he is getting called for shit that no one else is.

If he'd stop acting like a douchebag, he'd probably stop getting technicals. Just a thought.

[Laxation]

EDIT: This one's a little more sarcastic, but the sentiment remains the same:
Can't argue with the ref? Why, that's almost un-American!

He doesnt get the point... Sheed is pissed off about it because he is getting called for shit that no one else is.

If he'd stop acting like a douchebag, he'd probably stop getting technicals. Just a thought.

If the refs called it the same way for him as they do for everyone else, he would stop getting techs... He doesnt even have to be whinging or talking to refs to get a tech

[Zoom]

8. The NBA has decided that the players' habit of throwing the ball angrily against the basket stanchion must end, so now that maneuver is an automatic technical foul. Except when it isn't. When Zach Randolph bounced the ball softly off the stanchion in frustration, the Lakers' bench howled because ref Tommy Nunez ignored the foul play. Of course, when Lamar Odom did exactly the same thing in the fourth quarter, again on the Lakers' end of the court, the L.A. bench was silent and Nunez again swallowed his whistle.

With the news that players union president Billy Hunter might challenge the new technical foul guidelines, we haven't heard the last of these issues. At the very least, the league's enforcement must be made consistent. After all, just one T charged to Tim Duncan tonight in the fourth quarter tonight would have given Steve Nash a free throw and the Suns a win. But Whiny Tim was allowed to bicker unpenalized, and the Spurs won in OT.

[Laxation]

Chris Wilcox slams the ball into the padded thing that holds up the ring - really hard - against Miami
... nothing

Nazr and Billups both bounce the ball hard to themselves after a call
... techs

BULLSHIT

[Andrew]

I have to admit I've always though doing that was bordering on a technical. But like the other tech calls thus far this season, some consistency wouldn't go astray.

[Dan's Brain]

Nazr and Billups both bounce the ball hard to themselves after a call
... techs

I nearly got a tech for doing that in under 10s once. true story