The Knicks Thread....

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His prime is looooong way gone.
Back on an NBA team? Yes.
Back on the Knicks? NO. The Knicks already have too many guards.

But knowing their love of guards, I wouldnt be suprised

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he's acquiring players that most resemble himself during his playing days.

If he has 'favourites', I wonder who it would be

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Thomas is NOT acquiring good players for a team; he's acquiring players that most resemble himself during his playing days.

Nostalgia's a bitch.
You're right on the spot maes. I also think with those amount of guards, he's trying to recreate that backcourt tandem of him and Dumars, without a Laimbeer, a Rodman, a Vinnie, a Mahorn, a...

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You're right on the spot maes. I also think with those amount of guards, he's trying to recreate that backcourt tandem of him and Dumars, without a Laimbeer, a Rodman, a Vinnie, a Mahorn, a...

- Well, you can say he's trying by getting Curry... and him and Spike Lee (:lol:) think Balkman is a sleeper I think someone made the Rodman-Balkman comparison somewhere

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Pillsbury doughboy (Curry) even isn't on the same level of physicality as Vinnie Johnson.
Balkman have been tauted as a cross between Rodman and Artest.

[Jeffx]

Most NYK fans prefer Thomas on the no spot.

I want him on the next train out of town. That slimy POS ruined the Knicks for the next decade.

[Klayface]

Next couple of years? Yup. Next decade? I dont think so. We have a great bunch of young guys, Thomas' strong point is his skill of drafting the right players (could be just luck but hes done it over and over). The only way he can ruin this team for the next decade is if he traded all the young guys, and I doubt that since he brought them in. After he gets canned I have a feeling only the 3 rooks from last year, Jamal, and Balkman are gonna be the only ones left after the rebuilding process or w/e you wanna call it.

[Jeffx]

Next couple of years? Yup. Next decade? I dont think so. We have a great bunch of young guys, Thomas' strong point is his skill of drafting the right players (could be just luck but hes done it over and over). The only way he can ruin this team for the next decade is if he traded all the young guys, and I doubt that since he brought them in. After he gets canned I have a feeling only the 3 rooks from last year, Jamal, and Balkman are gonna be the only ones left after the rebuilding process or w/e you wanna call it.

The only way to become a LEGIT perennial playoff contender(50+ wins for at least ten years) is to a) through the draft or b) get under the cap so you can sign franchise players. Thanks to mismanagement, it'll be years before NY gets under the cap. I didn't think anyone could be as bad as Layden, but Isiah proved me wrong. He was a great basketball player, but he's horse-sh!t as an executive. He had us all fooled with that phony-ass smile and all that talk about changing the culture of the Knicks. He comes here and does the same crap the Knicks have been doing for decades - signing bums to long-term big money deals. Here's a guy who ruined the CBA, yet brain-dead Dolan gave him the job of running the Knicks.

I'll say it until the cows come home. As long as these idiots are in charge, the Knicks will NEVER be like they were during the Ewing-Riley-Van Gundy years.

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NY could easily make it to the playoffs if the main, big name players decided to learn the system and decide to put the team before themselves.

[Klayface]

The only way to become a LEGIT perennial playoff contender(50+ wins for at least ten years) is to a) through the draft or b) get under the cap so you can sign franchise players. Thanks to mismanagement, it'll be years before NY gets under the cap. I didn't think anyone could be as bad as Layden, but Isiah proved me wrong.

Well you can check off the draft part, you can't deny Isiahs talent in that department. He took much heat for picking Frye with a top 10 pick, and look how he turned out last year. Not saying it makes up for the rest of the things hes done, but still. And to tell the truth I can't really remember the Knicks ever being under the cap, but he DID put us over even more no doubt. But hey don't start giving my main man Scott Layden too much props yet, don't forget about taking Fredric Weis over Ron Artest, signing Allan Houston to that deal that (then again Dolan told Layden to do whatever he had to keep him), and trading Camby for Dice. Either way, Layden or Isiah, is pretty much a "pick your poison" situation. But the real problem with the Knicks is the ownership, Camp Cablevision doesn't have the slightest idea what they are doing. They have an alright squad on paper that could have the potential to sell a few over priced tickets, and thats all they care about. I say everybody in New York just throws in $10 a peice and we buy the Knicks back.

[BigKaboom2]

I'm watching Celtics - Knicks right now and Channing Frye has bulked up considerably. He's going to be tough this year, but it won't be enough.

[Jeffx]

But the real problem with the Knicks is the ownership, Camp Cablevision doesn't have the slightest idea what they are doing. They have an alright squad on paper that could have the potential to sell a few over priced tickets, and thats all they care about. I say everybody in New York just throws in $10 a peice and we buy the Knicks back.

True - once-proud franchises like the Knicks & Rangers went into the toilet when Cablevision & the Dolans took over.

Except for some good years with Checketts & Grunfeld, the Knicks have always had bad management, going back to the Sonny Werblin/Gulf & Western days. They go for the quick fix, signing star players past their prime for big money(like Spencer Heywood) in the hopes of squeaking into the playoffs to sell out MSG. They don't care about slowly building a championship team, all they do is fleece the suckers who pay for a lousy product. That short-sighted thinking is why this franchise hasn't won sh!t since 1973, and I was twelve at the time. I doubt I'll see another Knicks championship in my lifetime.

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Thomas disses Anthony

Thomas isn't a happy chappy is he...

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I foresee a rap battle between the two .

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Some pretty harsh comments from Thomas IMO... but would have been more impressive if he said all of this at the time when he was being dissed... just to show that he had faith in Balkman

Thing is... he's talking all this junk when Balkman hasn't played a proper proper game yet... will be interesting to see what happens tho...

and for the sake of Spike Lee, I hope the Knicks make the playoffs.

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This is between Greg and I

Isiah's a jerkass.

It would be different had he not worn a Knick uniform. But for a guy who claims to have been a Knick, to treat the Knicks the way he treated us that night

Lol, says the franchise killer.

I do remember the kind of player he was. I'll leave it at that

And everyone will remember the kind of GM/businessman Isiah is. His resume is impressive: CBA, NYK. What's next?

I'm guessing Isiah is trying to create a media distraction in case his coaching return is messed up early in the season.

[Jeffx]

This is between Greg and I

Isiah's a jerkass.

It would be different had he not worn a Knick uniform. But for a guy who claims to have been a Knick, to treat the Knicks the way he treated us that night

Lol, says the franchise killer.

I do remember the kind of player he was. I'll leave it at that

And everyone will remember the kind of GM/businessman Isiah is. His resume is impressive: CBA, NYK. What's next?

I'm guessing Isiah is trying to create a media distraction in case his coaching return is messed up early in the season.

Well that's how it is with the Knicks organization these days, thanks to Dolan. If you tell it like it is, you're seen as "anti-Knick". That's why Marv Albert's no longer with MSG.

[cklitsie]

Wasn't there something between Starbucks and Walt Frazier earlier on too? And Frazier's position as commentator wasn't so sure anymore because he criticised Steph?
The should make a movie about the Knicks' off court issues.

[Its_asdf]

I guess being unbiased and stating your opinion is never allowed against Isiah... Especially if you're a former Knick.

[BigKaboom2]

I still can't believe Isiah is actually coaching them. He's just the most irritating basketball personality I can think of....ruins everything.

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Well, I think the idea is that Dolan thinks that the guy who got them into the mess can get them out of it... he created it, he wants him to fix it... not sure if that will happen... But i will be the first to say, he can... just don't flame me...

[Dan's Brain]

fucking hell, isaiah. greg anthony has a job to do, and shouldnt be attacked for doing it well.

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From article in the other thread:

Because Anthony drew a Knicks' paycheck and wore their uniform, Thomas promoted the illogical and outlandish notion that it's unfair to articulate anything remotely disparaging about the organization.

Thomas' venomous invective caught Mark Jackson off guard, so to speak. Reached by cell phone, the ex-Knick (and six other teams) and current ESPN/ABC colleague of Anthony's, said it surprised him because "Isiah knows how to say the right thing. He usually protects himself. It makes me think this is personal.

"Reggie Miller played longer for the Pacers than Isiah did for the Pistons and a lot longer than Greg did with the Knicks," Jackson noted. "But it didn't stop him from condemning the organizations and Stephen Jackson. He knows he can't sugar-coat it or else I, for one, will turn the channel.

Take that Isiah. What a douchebag.

[Jeffx]

Take that Isiah. What a douchebag.

That kind of thinking starts with the owner. Criticize the organization, and you're out the door.

[Jeffx]

Here's a great laugh;

"Isiah Seeks the Shaq in Eddy Curry"

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... 1564c.html


I read this and almost died laughing. This fat lazy f--- hasn't shown any toughness in five years - what makes Isiah think he's changing now?

It just gets stupider and stupider with the Knicks.