Either Or

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Either Or

Postby The Show on Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:09 am

I just wanted to see what everybody thought about a few players. Just a little something different. If you're like me you'll be happy to see anything original from the same old "Who's better", talks that plague the off season. Feel free to add different players or categories.

Star or Superstar:

Lamar Odom
Shawn Marion
Paul Pierce
Yao Ming
Ron Artest
Manu Ginobili
Ben Wallace

Good or Star:

Charlie Villanueva
Jameer Nelson
Peja Stojakovic
Richard Hamilton
Kenyon Martin
Tyson Chandler
Josh Howard

Alright or Good:

Kyle Korver
Mickael Pietrus
Nate Robinson
Kwame Brown
Chris Kaman
Desmond Mason
Josh Smith
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Postby Donatello on Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:12 am

Star or Superstar:

Lamar Odom- Star
Shawn Marion- Star
Paul Pierce- Superstar
Yao Ming- Superstar
Ron Artest- Star
Manu Ginobili- Star
Ben Wallace- Star

Good or Star:

Charlie Villanueva- Good
Jameer Nelson- Good
Peja Stojakovic- Star
Richard Hamilton- Star
Kenyon Martin- Good
Tyson Chandler- Good
Josh Howard- Good

Alright or Good:

Kyle Korver- Alright
Mickael Pietrus- Alright
Nate Robinson- Alright
Kwame Brown- Psh
Chris Kaman- STAR
Desmond Mason- Good
Josh Smith- Alright
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Postby Jugs on Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:05 am

Star or Superstar:

Lamar Odom - Star
Shawn Marion - Superstar
Paul Pierce - Superstar
Yao Ming - Superstar
Ron Artest - Superstar
Manu Ginobili - Superstar
Ben Wallace - Superstar

Good or Star:

Charlie Villanueva - Good
Jameer Nelson - Good
Peja Stojakovic - Good
Richard Hamilton - Star
Kenyon Martin - Star
Tyson Chandler - Good
Josh Howard - Star

Alright or Good:

Kyle Korver - Alright
Mickael Pietrus - Alright
Nate Robinson - Alright
Kwame Brown - Like Josh said, Psh.
Chris Kaman - Good
Desmond Mason - Good
Josh Smith - Alright (Potentiall though)
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Postby nets4life on Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:18 am

Star or Superstar:

Lamar Odom - Star
Shawn Marion - Star
Paul Pierce - Super Star
Yao Ming - Star
Ron Artest - Star
Manu Ginobili - Star
Ben Wallace - Star

Good or Star:

Charlie Villanueva - Good
Jameer Nelson - Good
Peja Stojakovic - Star
Richard Hamilton - Star
Kenyon Martin - Good...
Tyson Chandler - Neither, but good if i had to choose
Josh Howard - Star

Alright or Good:

Kyle Korver - Alright
Mickael Pietrus - Alright
Nate Robinson - Alright
Kwame Brown - Alright
Chris Kaman - good
Desmond Mason - alright
Josh Smith - V. Good
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Postby Fitzy on Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:22 am

Star or Superstar:

Lamar Odom- Star
Shawn Marion- Superstar
Paul Pierce- Superstar
Yao Ming- Star
Ron Artest- Star
Manu Ginobili- Star
Ben Wallace- Superstar

Good or Star:

Charlie Villanueva- Good
Jameer Nelson- Good
Peja Stojakovic- Star
Richard Hamilton- Star
Kenyon Martin- Star
Tyson Chandler- Good
Josh Howard- Good

Alright or Good:

Kyle Korver- Good
Mickael Pietrus- Alright
Nate Robinson- Good
Kwame Brown- Alright
Chris Kaman- Good
Desmond Mason- Alright
Josh Smith- Good
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Re: Either Or

Postby Amphatoast on Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:44 pm

A star is a good role player with a superstar, while a superstar can single handley take a team to the playoffs with average players

Star or Superstar:

Lamar Odom-star
Shawn Marion-star (those playoff woes are my concern..he is 1 hella a player tho)
Paul Pierce-superstar
Yao Ming-superstar (you'll see why next year)
Ron Artest-star
Manu Ginobili-star (overrated one at that also)
Ben Wallace-star

a star here is a good 2nd scorer and can take over games. This happens 20+games out of the season usually

Good or Star:

Charlie Villanueva-good
Jameer Nelson-good
Peja Stojakovic-star
Richard Hamilton-star
Kenyon Martin-good
Tyson Chandler-good
Josh Howard-good


good here means you can do more than 1 thing and not limited to 1 thing. They also have there 'moments'

Alright or Good:

Kyle Korver-alright
Mickael Pietrus-alright
Nate Robinson-good (he just needs more playing time really)
Kwame Brown-alright
Chris Kaman- good
Desmond Mason- good
Josh Smith-alright
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Postby BigKaboom2 on Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:14 pm

Amphatoast wrote:Chris Kaman- algood

Hmmmm......


Star or Superstar:

Lamar Odom-Star
Shawn Marion-Superstar
Paul Pierce-Superstar
Yao Ming-Superstar
Ron Artest-Star
Manu Ginobili-Star
Ben Wallace-Star

Good or Star:

Charlie Villanueva-Good
Jameer Nelson-Good
Peja Stojakovic-Good
Richard Hamilton-Star
Kenyon Martin-Good
Tyson Chandler-Good
Josh Howard-Good

Alright or Good:

Kyle Korver-Alright
Mickael Pietrus-Alright
Nate Robinson-Alright
Kwame Brown-Alright
Chris Kaman-Good
Desmond Mason-Good
Josh Smith-Good
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Postby Silas on Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:22 pm

Alright or Good:

Kyle Korver - uber-superstar who is unable to be stopped

thats the only one I want to answer
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Re: Either Or

Postby R.J. on Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:59 pm

The Show wrote:I just wanted to see what everybody thought about a few players. Just a little something different. If you're like me you'll be happy to see anything original from the same old "Who's better", talks that plague the off season. Feel free to add different players or categories.

Star or Superstar:

Lamar Odom - star: all around player, good at every facet of the game but not elite at any of them

Shawn Marion - star: plays with Nash, which makes his stats like a superstar, but he is only a star

Paul Pierce - superstar: only player the Celtics can count on year in and year out

Yao Ming - superstar: just look at the month before he got hurt, he basically carried the Rockets without McGrady

Ron Artest - star: can't carry a team, that's what I define a superstar as

Manu Ginobili - star: see above

Ben Wallace - in between: can carry a team on defense, but not on offense

Good or Star:

Charlie Villanueva - good
Jameer Nelson - good
Peja Stojakovic - good
Richard Hamilton - star
Kenyon Martin - good
Tyson Chandler - alright
Josh Howard - good

Alright or Good:

Kyle Korver - alright
Mickael Pietrus - alright
Nate Robinson - alright
Kwame Brown - alright
Chris Kaman - good
Desmond Mason - alright
Josh Smith - alright
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Postby Indy on Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:12 pm

Star or Superstar:

Lamar Odom- Star
Shawn Marion- Superstar
Paul Pierce- Superstar
Yao Ming- Superstar
Ron Artest- Superstar
Manu Ginobili- Star
Ben Wallace- Star

Good or Star:

Charlie Villanueva- Good
Jameer Nelson- Good
Peja Stojakovic- Star
Richard Hamilton- Star
Kenyon Martin- Good
Tyson Chandler- Alright
Josh Howard- Star

Alright or Good:

Kyle Korver- Alright (barely)
Mickael Pietrus- Good
Nate Robinson- Alright
Kwame Brown- Alright
Chris Kaman- Star
Desmond Mason- Alright
Josh Smith- Good
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Postby Fitzy on Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:19 pm

i think i have to sorta agree with donatello and indy, chris kaman is a bit of a star, especially when maggette was out
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Postby --- on Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:22 pm

Star or Superstar:

Lamar Odom - Star
Shawn Marion - Superstar
Paul Pierce - Superstar
Yao Ming - Star
Ron Artest - Star
Manu Ginobili - Star
Ben Wallace - Star

Good or Star:

Charlie Villanueva - Good
Jameer Nelson - Good
Peja Stojakovic - Star
Richard Hamilton - Star
Kenyon Martin - Star
Tyson Chandler - Good
Josh Howard - Star

Alright or Good:

Kyle Korver - Alright
Mickael Pietrus - Alright
Nate Robinson - Alright
Kwame Brown - Good
Chris Kaman - Star
Desmond Mason - Star
Josh Smith - Good
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Postby Matt on Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:00 pm

by the end of the season people will realise that Jameer Nelson is better than "good" and on his way to stardom.
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Postby kinokong on Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:03 pm

as with josh smith
PPL r a little feisty these days:D
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Postby The X on Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:27 pm

Matt wrote:by the end of the season people will realise that Jameer Nelson is better than "good" and on his way to stardom.

he's definitely a star, there's no doubt about that....his play allowed them to trade away Francis....
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Postby funk99 on Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:33 pm

Star or Superstar:

Lamar Odom - Star
Shawn Marion - Superstar
Paul Pierce - Superstar
Yao Ming - Star
Ron Artest - Star
Manu Ginobili - Star
Ben Wallace - Star

Good or Star:

Charlie Villanueva - Good
Jameer Nelson - Good
Peja Stojakovic - Good
Richard Hamilton - Star
Kenyon Martin - Good
Tyson Chandler - Good
Josh Howard - Good

Alright or Good:

Kyle Korver - alright
Mickael Pietrus - alright
Nate Robinson - alright
Kwame Brown - alright
Chris Kaman - good
Desmond Mason - alright
Josh Smith - good
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Postby Indy on Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:58 am

Jameer is one of my favorite players in the league, but he hasn't quite reached star status yet. He will, possibly this season, but as of this point he's just a good, solid player.

If we were going by what we are projecting the players to be in a few years, then I would change Charlie V to Star, I'd change Josh Howard to Superstar and I'd trade Josh Smith to star.
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Postby bigh0rt on Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:42 am

Star or Superstar:

Lamar Odom - Star
Shawn Marion - Superstar
Paul Pierce - Superstar
Yao Ming - Superstar
Ron Artest - Star
Manu Ginobili - Star
Ben Wallace - Star

Good or Star:

Charlie Villanueva - Good
Jameer Nelson - Star
Peja Stojakovic - Star
Richard Hamilton - Star
Kenyon Martin - Good
Tyson Chandler - Good
Josh Howard - Star

Alright or Good:

Kyle Korver - Alright
Mickael Pietrus - Alright
Nate Robinson - Alright
Kwame Brown - Alright
Chris Kaman - Alright
Desmond Mason - Alright
Josh Smith - Good
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