2000s All-Star Team

[scrub]

C-Shaq
PF-Duncan
SF-Garnett
SG-Bryant
PG-Kidd

Over the past 6 years.

[axare]

wow Shaqs everywhere...

My Ideal line up would be
First Team Second
C-Darko Milicic / Ben Wallace
PF- Tim Duncan / Chris Bosh
SF- LeBron James / Tracy McGrady
SG- Juan Carlos Navarro/ Kobe Bryant
PG- Nash / Chauncey Billups

[Indy]

Wow. Its funny how every time a thread like this gets made how much hating on Jermaine O'Neal goes on. I know he hasn't been healthy the past few years, and he can't be listed right behind Dirk and Duncan right now, but come on.

This original poster didn't even give him an honorable mention.

[J@3]

It's not Jermaine O'Neal hating, it's the fact that not everyone is an Indiana Pacers fan.

[Indy]

It's not Jermaine O'Neal hating, it's the fact that not everyone is an Indiana Pacers fan.

So you have to be a Pacers fan to realize that a guy who was an MVP candidate 2 seasons ago is at least a top 5 Power Forward in the league?

If everyone has such a short attention span and only remembers the fact that he's been hurt, then why does Okafor get a mention? In fact, why the hell would Okafor get a mention over JO reguardless of Okafors health? That's insane.

Jermaine O'Neal is about to have a career year though. Next year people will have him on their lists for these threads.

[J@3]

So you have to be a Pacers fan to realize that a guy who was an MVP candidate 2 seasons ago is at least a top 5 Power Forward in the league?

TWO seasons ago. People tend to think more recently and rightfully so. He hasn't played anywhere near a full season since then, and his rebounding has dropped a fair bit. Don't get me wrong he is one of my favourite players, but I wouldn't say he's at least a top 5 PF, he'd be hovering around 4/5 at the moment IMO.

If everyone has such a short attention span and only remembers the fact that he's been hurt, then why does Okafor get a mention? In fact, why the hell would Okafor get a mention over JO reguardless of Okafors health? That's insane.

Well yeah it's quite obvious the original poster has no idea, I mean he's got Andrew Bogut in the list aswell and as homeristic as I am I don't think one 9/6 season really puts you in an all-anything team.

[bigh0rt]

Wow. Its funny how every time a thread like this gets made how much hating on Jermaine O'Neal goes on. I know he hasn't been healthy the past few years, and he can't be listed right behind Dirk and Duncan right now, but come on.

This original poster didn't even give him an honorable mention.

It's funny to me that on the internet, whenever somebody feels somebody isn't getting enough rub, it's referred to as 'hating'. Nobody's hating on JO. The fact is, he hasn't been near the league of TD or Dirk in recent history. I'm a Pacers fan, and O'Neal's my favorite player, but to think he's made his way onto this list is just homerism.

And, let's not consider the original poster the be all, end all of the discussion -- he had Andrew Bogut on his list.

[cklitsie]

About Jermaine O'Neal, even if he's a top 5 PF, there's no 5 PF's on a "decade team" anyway.

Don't even take the thread starter's selections serious.
Garnett, Duncan, Dirk, full.

[bigh0rt]

About Jermaine O'Neal, even if he's a top 5 PF, there's no 5 PF's on a "decade team" anyway.

Don't even take the thread starter's selections serious.
Garnett, Duncan, Dirk, full.

Can't take many of the lists seriously, unfortunately...

... I mean Darko is on a list...

[Mayerhendrix]

Everyone else was going by already achieved, and on the younger players of the list I did it by potential.

Bogut was a stretch, but players like Dwight Howard are going to be the future big men of the NBA once Shaq retires and are beginning to dominate already.

[J@3]

Yeah but your original post said...

if you had to pick a starting lineup of 5 of the best players of the current decade

[bigh0rt]

Yeah but your original post said...

if you had to pick a starting lineup of 5 of the best players of the current decade

Exactly. Also, that's why it's important to wait until at least the ending year or two of the decade to make such a team. We're only 1 year past the mid-point, now . At any rate, you can't be making teams based on potential, because you never know when another Jason Williams will happen, or when a player will just up and flop (Kwame Brown had a lot of 'potential' when he was drafted...) so you've got to go on accolades and what a player has shown he can do in the 6 years we're into the decade.

[Indy]

It's funny to me that on the internet, whenever somebody feels somebody isn't getting enough rub, it's referred to as 'hating'. Nobody's hating on JO. The fact is, he hasn't been near the league of TD or Dirk in recent history. I'm a Pacers fan, and O'Neal's my favorite player, but to think he's made his way onto this list is just homerism.

And, let's not consider the original poster the be all, end all of the discussion -- he had Andrew Bogut on his list.

Read what I said. I didn't say that he should make the list, but all the people saying honorable mentions and giving people like Darko and Okafor mentions of Jermaine. If we had done this poll last offseason, Jermaine would have been on a lot more lists.

Actually, I just remembered what forum I'm on, I don't care.

[Indy]

It's funny to me that on the internet, whenever somebody feels somebody isn't getting enough rub, it's referred to as 'hating'. Nobody's hating on JO. The fact is, he hasn't been near the league of TD or Dirk in recent history. I'm a Pacers fan, and O'Neal's my favorite player, but to think he's made his way onto this list is just homerism.

And, let's not consider the original poster the be all, end all of the discussion -- he had Andrew Bogut on his list.

Read what I said. I didn't say that he should make the list, but all the people saying honorable mentions and giving people like Darko and Okafor mentions of Jermaine. If we had done this poll last offseason, Jermaine would have been on a lot more lists.

Jermaine is behind TD, KG and Dirk for the years 2000-2006, and nobody else for the power forward position.

[Indy]

It's funny to me that on the internet, whenever somebody feels somebody isn't getting enough rub, it's referred to as 'hating'. Nobody's hating on JO. The fact is, he hasn't been near the league of TD or Dirk in recent history. I'm a Pacers fan, and O'Neal's my favorite player, but to think he's made his way onto this list is just homerism.

And, let's not consider the original poster the be all, end all of the discussion -- he had Andrew Bogut on his list.

Read what I said. I didn't say that he should make the list, but all the people saying honorable mentions and giving people like Darko and Okafor mentions of Jermaine. If we had done this poll last offseason, Jermaine would have been on a lot more lists.

Jermaine is behind TD, KG and Dirk for the years 2000-2006, and nobody else for the power forward position.

[J@3]

Do you want me to keep the Jermaine/TD/KG post or the smart ass NBA Talk comment one ?

[Mayerhendrix]

Dunno, it's just that ever since the brawl and Ron Artest's time, the Pacers seem to be spiraling downward with injuries and that doesn't really do wonders to promote Jermaine's image when other power forwards are putting up monster numbers and winning games.

He played only 51 games last season, and the organization's only reason to be optimistic right now is that Al Harrington might show up.

[Indy]

Do you want me to keep the Jermaine/TD/KG post or the smart ass NBA Talk comment one ?

Haha, I don't know how that happened, I thought I edited the post.

I love all of the NLSC's members!!!

[Indy]

He played only 51 games last season, and the organization's only reason to be optimistic right now is that Al Harrington might show up.

I'm optimistic about Danny Granger, Marquis Daniels and David Harrison.

I'm cautiously optimistic about Al.

[Keo]

C: Shaquille O'Neal - Ben Wallace - Yao Ming
PF: Tim Duncan - Chris Webber - Dirk Nowitzki
SF: Kevin Garnett - Tracy McGrady - LeBron James
SG: Kobe Bryant - Vince Carter - Ray Allen
PG: Jason Kidd - Steve Nash - Allen Iverson

Wow, Indy has 5 of the last 7 posts before this one.

[Indy]

C: Shaquille O'Neal - Ben Wallace - Yao Ming
PF: Tim Duncan - Chris Webber - Dirk Nowitzki
SF: Kevin Garnett - Tracy McGrady - LeBron James
SG: Kobe Bryant - Vince Carter - Ray Allen
PG: Jason Kidd - Steve Nash - Allen Iverson

Wow, Indy has 5 of the last 7 posts before this one.

The reason I shouldn't have come to this thread in the first place.

I usually do such a good job avoiding these types of threads.

[Keo]

I'm not the only one who put Webber on his list. He was an elite player in the early 2000's with Sacramento before the knee injury. Just look at his numbers:

1999-2000: 24.5 PPG | 10.5 RPG | 4.6 APG
2000-2001: 27.1 PPG | 11.1 RPG | 4.2 APG
2001-2002: 24.5 PPG | 10.1 RPG | 4.8 APG
2002-2003: 23.0 PPG | 10.5 RPG | 5.4 APG

Not only that, he put Sacramento on the map, led them to the Conference Finals, was an All-Star 5 times and an MVP Candidate more than once.

So after triple/double posting, you're saying that my decision of putting Webber on the list is biased at an attempt to change the subject?

[Crash_Bandicoot]

c-shaq/yao/big ben
pf-duncan/kg/dirk
sf-lebron/t-mac/PP
sg-kobe/wade/carter
pg-iverson/kidd/nash

[cklitsie]

I'm not the only one who put Webber on his list. He was an elite player in the early 2000's with Sacramento before the knee injury.

True, he was awesome in the early 2000's and how good he really was back then is often still underrated.
But he stopped owning around 2003, which leaves 7 years in the decennium in which he hasn't probably even been a top 10 PF in the league. That's not enough to make the 00's team.
And Indy's triple/double posting isn't good, but it damn sure has nothing to do with the subject.

[CERVANTES]

For me Webber was the best PF last years. He may not won any title, or MVP. But... when you see how tallented he was... damn... He could make everything: passing, shoot, block, rebound, run... he could even play the PG position, I'm sure.

One outstanding player that people also forgets (but not for this 2000s team) is Sean May. I never seen any inside player like him, he's all finesse, so smart... He's what all inside players should be like.

Another one is Josh Childress... wow... he reminds me so much to George Gervin or Julius Erving. He's so serious, so professional... he makes his job and with lots of finesse and knows the game well.