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Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:55 pm

Matthew wrote:Zo is a warrior. No one that plays with what he is going through is a whinger. Case closed.

I don't doubt he's a warrior to play through it....but I can't agree he's not a whinger....but then again most pro athletes are :roll: they're highly competitive & will do anything, including lying & cheating to win....I guess most people do it in sports, but it would be nice to see a little less theatrics after each call....Zo isn't the only one, whilst I'm a Mavs' fan, I hate how Josh Howard falls around & acts child-like when a call doesn't go his way....so it ain't just Zo, it's a wider issue than even the NBA itself, it goes to Western civilization....but ahh well, enough of that, case closed :wink:

Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:59 pm

Jae wrote:I'm sure all of the Raptor fans here will agree with you :lol:

Raptors fans are a joke. They think vince carter, tmac, marcus camby all are team cancers, but all have played much better away from toronto, so you tell me what the cause is :crazy:
I don't doubt he's a warrior to play through it....but I can't agree he's not a whinger....but then again most pro athletes are Rolling Eyes they're highly competitive & will do anything, including lying & cheating to win....I guess most people do it in sports, but it would be nice to see a little less theatrics after each call....Zo isn't the only one, whilst I'm a Mavs' fan, I hate how Josh Howard falls around & acts child-like when a call doesn't go his way....so it ain't just Zo, it's a wider issue than even the NBA itself, it goes to Western civilization....but ahh well, enough of that, case closed Wink

Lol I wonder what your opinion of soccer is then.

Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:10 pm

Matthew wrote:
I don't doubt he's a warrior to play through it....but I can't agree he's not a whinger....but then again most pro athletes are Rolling Eyes they're highly competitive & will do anything, including lying & cheating to win....I guess most people do it in sports, but it would be nice to see a little less theatrics after each call....Zo isn't the only one, whilst I'm a Mavs' fan, I hate how Josh Howard falls around & acts child-like when a call doesn't go his way....so it ain't just Zo, it's a wider issue than even the NBA itself, it goes to Western civilization....but ahh well, enough of that, case closed Wink

Lol I wonder what your opinion of soccer is then.

I encourage soccer referees to give yellow & red cards for divers....but it's not just soccer, you look at games like cricket....they call it's the 'gentlemen's game'....what a load of crap....there's more sledging than you'll hear than on most other sporting fields....

Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:10 pm

*cough* Jalen Rose *cough*


Dwyane Wade...cough cough

hate how Josh Howard falls around & acts child-like when a call doesn't go his way


some, but he does get a lot of bogus calls against him which is frustrating. Nothing worse than playing perfect D and then getting called for a foul you did not commit.

Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:22 pm

Matt wrote:
hate how Josh Howard falls around & acts child-like when a call doesn't go his way


some, but he does get a lot of bogus calls against him which is frustrating. Nothing worse than playing perfect D and then getting called for a foul you did not commit.

can't argue with him getting the raw deal on a couple of plays, but he doesn't need to fall to the floor & make a huge scene out of it....a tough call really, I guess emotions can get the better of you....

Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:19 am

Zo is a warrior. No one that plays with what he is going through is a whinger. Case closed.


I appauld him for having the passion to play even after his kidney injury, especially since most players would've called it quits afterwards, but I find it hard to respect a guy when he doesn't even show up to play for a team altogether, regardless if that team was the Raptors. I find that incredibly picky and dishonest for a guy who should have been grateful to even be playing in the NBA to just go and say "Nah, I think I'll just say I can't play and then go off to Miami".


Raptors fans are a joke. They think vince carter, tmac, marcus camby all are team cancers, but all have played much better away from toronto, so you tell me what the cause is


This I can't agree with. I can understand that some of the Raptor fans feel like they've been cheated and they don't know the whole story, but I just think they care too much about their team to just watch a player (especially an all-star caliber one) just get up and walk away. It's disheartening for any sportsfan, but I guess something must be in the Canadian waters that they drink to make them that much more bitter I guess. :? I was pretty disappointed when Carter and McGrady left as well, but I'm sure that every other knowledgable and understanding Raptor fan has let it go (especially since Carter killed Toronto they way he did last season).

Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:30 pm

Alot of other players other then Zo whinge at fouls. It's just one of those things that happens in the NBA.
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