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Postby J@3 on Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:07 pm

He also made the pass to Charlie Bell late in the 4th which led to Bell hitting a 3 and putting the game completely out of reach (Y) he's really picked it up in 2 of the last 3 games, he was pretty poor against Detroit but fantastic against Phoenix. I think he'll susprise alot of people in the play-offs.
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Postby Fresh8 on Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:57 pm

^^ Thats if he gets plauing time in the playoffs. I'm just impressed with the fact that he's fit right into this team and is playing as a team player rather than one of those uber selfish guys who hogs the ball...
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Postby Laxation on Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:12 pm

I play against Andrew Boguts cousin (apparently) in Friday night basketball 8-)

Not sure where the rumour came from, but he does look a little like him, is tall and can jump and block, so playing basketball runs in his veins.
I'll ask him if its true next time I see him, but until then its my claim to fame :lol:
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Postby Fresh8 on Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:16 pm

How old is his cousin?
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Postby Laxation on Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:18 pm

He plays in u/18s

Bogut did also live/play around where I play (Nunawading) until he moved down the road to Doncaster or Dandenong because Nunwading didnt think he was good enough.

Based on their physical similarites, as well as playing on the same courts that Bogut used to, its not that far-fetched that it could be true... I cant wait to ask him now :lol:
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Postby Fresh8 on Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:23 pm

Bumped becuase of this: 24 points 10-13 FG, 12 rebounds, 7 assists
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Postby Arcane on Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:25 pm

he did have 1 of his best games today which was good to see.
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Postby Andrew on Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:29 pm

Great to see him play 38 minutes and turn out a performance like that. (Y) It's a shame some people seem to want to write him off as a bust already, when players like Kwame and Darko are still getting the benefit of the doubt.
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Postby Carmo on Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:49 pm

Near triple double performance. I'm very impressed! :D
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Postby J@3 on Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:01 pm

Holy jesus, who told him he was still playing for Utah? Last three games he's averaging like 20ppg.
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Postby DipSetVC on Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:03 pm

Andrew, who said Bogut was a bust?
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Postby Andrew on Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:12 pm

It seems to come up every now and again amongst the fans, if not in the media.
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Postby DipSetVC on Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:14 pm

That's strange, I don't think he'll be as good as some people think but he's definitely nowhere near a "bust". I think he can be a very solid centre, kind of like a Chris Kaman but a much better passer.
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Postby J@3 on Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:16 pm

Alot of people get on the bust-bandwagon after he has a bad game, but that happens to most rookies not called Chris Paul.
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Postby dada on Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:05 pm

Bogut's been playing better than I honestly believed he would. When he drafted I thought he would play like shit. He looked soft and just didnt really look like a legit NBA center but he shows alot of promise. If the Bucks werent in love with the long ball I think he would have had a much better year. Oh well.
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Postby Fresh8 on Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:34 pm

Yeah, people see Bogut as a bust cause he didn't get minutes at one stage and he didn't get stats people though he would. What guys don't understand is that he does things more important than padding up the stat sheet and that's fitting into the team's system and helping them be the best team possible; they could be. It's great to see him succeed and hopefully the minutes will ocme in the play-offs. I'm sure guys like Jae will be waiting for another nifty no-look pass!
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Postby J@3 on Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:39 pm

He did throw down a nice alley oop tonight, made the top 10 plays of the day. I don't think there's a rookie in the NBA who's made as many top 10/#1 plays of the day/week as Bogut. Villanueva would be close but Paul, Frye etc are nowhere near.
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Postby Fresh8 on Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:41 pm

I'm ready to hear about him doing well for the Boomers. They better do better than the Socceroos!

And do you guys think there will be a day where Bogut gets an opportunity to average 18-20 ppg, 12 rpg and 4 apg?
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Postby Andrew on Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:16 pm

Probably not so long as Stotts is coaching the Bucks. I think he could be averaging around 16, 9 and 3 though. If he got an opportunity to do that next year, I think that might silence many of the critics.
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Postby J@3 on Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:22 pm

He's been scoring at will in his last 3 games, but that's more down to his great shooting percentage as opposed to him being allowed to take shots. The most shots he's ever taken in a game is 14, and he's done that 5 games out of 80... for comparisons sake, Chris Mihm's season high is 15 and he's pretty much the 4th or 5th option on that team.

He's shooting 26/34 in his last three, around 74%. I can't wait to see what he does in the play-offs.
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Postby Matt on Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:54 pm

i doubt he'll ever reach 12rpg....if you look at those players that do, they are supremely athletically gifted.

10rpg is a reasonable answer, but it also depends on who else is on the roster and what position & role he's asked to play.
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Postby Fenix on Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:02 am

Matt wrote:i doubt he'll ever reach 12rpg....if you look at those players that do, they are supremely athletically gifted.

10rpg is a reasonable answer, but it also depends on who else is on the roster and what position & role he's asked to play.


Duncan is a supremely athletically talented player? He is better than Bogut, but an elite level athlete. If Brad Miller managed to pull down 10 rebounds per game for a whole season (and he didn't even start in some of those games), then Bogut can certainly do the same. I believe he's more fundamentally sound in than area than Miller and certainly has that athletic edge over him. I bet Bogut can catch Yao in every category numbers wise and even surpasses him in some (assists).
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Postby Fresh8 on Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:26 am

Bogut's rebounding has never been a problem. He's got good footwork in the low post and positions himself well. I always saw his offence as a wekaness so that's why I thought getting 20 points a night harder than grabbing 12 boards.
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Postby J@3 on Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:05 am

His rebounding is more mental than ability-based... at the start of the season he was consistantly pulling down 9-11 boards then he sort of lost it and recently has been doing nothing on the boards, and that's ignoring the fact that in the Bucks defensive system Bogut is often out away from the basket playing help D to compensate for the awful perimeter defenders.
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Postby spreeul8r on Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:44 am

yeah his rebounding has been a little disapointing. Could just be because the others are chipping in more? But i reckon your pretty much spot on Jae, he had a more aggressive approach to rebounding at the start of the season.
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