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Postby Amphatoast on Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:09 pm

how is rip hamilton overpaid? he only makes $8million

everyone else on that list looks about right.
shaq is considered overpaid till miami wins a championship.
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Postby The_Flying_Tomato on Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:15 pm

dunleavy too.


8 mil a year, but what does rip do? What do you think he should be paid? I'd say about 6.
benji wrote:We're still on that stupidity? Giving Kidd the MVP in 2002 is as bad as giving Nash the MVP in any year...

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Postby Laxation on Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:28 pm

lmfao you idiot phx4life...
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Postby The_Flying_Tomato on Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:34 pm

wut?
benji wrote:We're still on that stupidity? Giving Kidd the MVP in 2002 is as bad as giving Nash the MVP in any year...

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Postby Laxation on Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:46 pm

8 mil a year, but what does rip do? What do you think he should be paid? I'd say about 6

scores 20+ppg on the best team (argueably)
comes off screens best in the NBA
moves without the ball the best in the NBA
shoots nearly 90% from the line
plays good defence

hamilton will be getting a contract most likely 10m+ by the time this current one is over...
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Postby The_Flying_Tomato on Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:25 pm

ehhhhh fine, i missed ONE.
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Postby Laxation on Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:41 pm

jermaine and shaq arent bad contracts... theyre just big, they both warrant the big contracts
miller and battier arent that bad... millers could be a little high but he is great off the bench
korver is hardly anything, and he can put in for 15ppg a game
bobby simmons is just average, not great or bad
sheed is by no means overpaid
larry hughes has been injured, it would have been a good contract had he not gotten injured for the majority of the season
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Postby [L3]1101 on Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:43 pm

i think Shane Battier is worth his contract. He is not required to score, he's there for the leadership. If he wasn't a good player, he wouldn't be getting the minutes and starting spot that he's getting. If wanted, he can be a 15-20ppg guy easily.

Kyle Korver is only getting paid about 2 mil/ year, he's not doing much but with a shooting like him i think 2 mil/ year is well worth it.

Otherwise i think you have a pretty good list. It's intereing how most of them are big men. Is it really that hard to find a big talented players these days?
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Postby The_Flying_Tomato on Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:48 pm

Korver:
this year: 3,630,363.
next yr: 4,011,551
07/08: 4,392,739
thru 10/11: 5,536,303

for him, I guess he's not the most overpaid, just overpaid. I should've added Quentin Richardson.

battier has almost 5 mil this year going thru almost 7.5 mil in 10/11. While agian, he's not the MOST overpaid, he's still overpaid.
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Postby Laxation on Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:49 pm

how is it overpaid? sure, he cant play defence that well but he still draws charges and shoots extremely well.

i know if i was a gm i would pay that much to have a 13-15ppg scorer coming off the bench, especially because he has the ability to change the game if he is hot.
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Postby J@3 on Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:37 pm

jermaine and shaq arent bad contracts... theyre just big, they both warrant the big contracts


I don't know if I'd want Shaq's contract on my payroll. He's in a fairly steady decline, and $20 million over the next 5 years is alot. Unless he retires early, then I guess it's alright.
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Postby H Rock on Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:41 pm

Don't you still have to pay a player after he retires?
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Postby J@3 on Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:54 pm

That's a good question, I'm really not sure.
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Postby Fitzy on Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:56 pm

they do if they still have a contract dont they?
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Postby Andreas Dahl on Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:05 pm

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm
53. How do retired players count against the cap?

Any money paid to a player is included in team salary, even if the player has retired. For example, James Worthy retired in 1994, two years before his contract ended. He continued to receive his salary for the 1994-95 and 1995-96 seasons, so his salary was included in the Lakers' team salary in those seasons. It is at the team's discretion (or as the result of an agreement between the team and player) whether to continue to pay the player after he has retired.

There is one exception whereby a player can continue to receive his salary, but the salary is not included in the team's team salary. This is when a player is forced to retire for medical reasons and a league-appointed physician confirms that he is medically unfit to continue playing.
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Postby J@3 on Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:12 pm

Thanks Dahl (Y) Well, I guess Shaq's contract just sucks all round then :lol:
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Postby Andreas Dahl on Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:32 pm

Yup, it sure does :wink: Tho it's a little strange that Shaq (or anyone else for that matter) can just quit any time he likes and still get paid tens millions for years to come..
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Postby Mikki on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:10 pm

Eric Snpw has like $20M in 4 years. :x :x :x
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Postby Laxation on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:26 pm

the thing with shaqs contract is that he is just so dam good that he warrants it.
they are a huge chance for the finals this year, and all because they have shaq.
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Postby J@3 on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:46 pm

They'd be in the play-offs with or without him, and a finals contender depending on how Wade plays.
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Postby Laxation on Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:53 am

theyre a 50% team without shaq, they showed that at the start of the season
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Postby benji on Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:53 am

Laxation wrote:hamilton will be getting a contract most likely 10m+ by the time this current one is over...

Good darko, I sure hope not. He makes $10.5 million in 2009 and $11.4 million in 2010. If the Pistons resign a 31 year old Rip to $10+ million a year in 2010 they're insane.
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Postby Laxation on Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:38 am

2010? didnt know it was that long... thought it was 2008

maybe billups is 2008 then :?

hehe... good darko...
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Postby J@3 on Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:34 am

Laxation wrote:theyre a 50% team without shaq, they showed that at the start of the season


The Bucks also had one of the best records in the league at the start of the season, things change over time.
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Postby Laxation on Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:43 pm

good point, but without shaq, i cant see miami being a chance to beat detroit
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