v1.07 released...

[supaboy47]

andrew, im kinda disappointed man but i aint gonna pressure you to change it but you needa RELOOK at these players

Tayshaun Prince (defense)
Rasheed (offense/defense)
Joe Johnson (offense)

[Silas]

somethin is messed up with these rosters, it must have been an accident.

[supaboy47]

i hope so we will see though

[DaTruth36]

Paul Pierce SHOULD have a 99 lol.

I did the rating machine and it gave him a 99.

Plus, if you edit his stats and make them realistic, that's what it comes out to.

[J@3]

You're an idiot.

[supaboy47]

yea he is! but i think he is just playing!

[J@3]

yea he is! but i think he is just playing!

Nah, 99.9% of his posts in NBA Talk are about how great Paul Pierce is. At one point he proclaimed Gerald Green as a better player than Vince Carter. He was dead serious.

Suggestion @ Andrew: Drop Pierce's overall to 50 for the next update in the hope that it spawns mass Pierce fan suicides.

[supaboy47]

i kno rite but hey is the BAN appropiate lol. induct him in the hall of fame thing

[8-Hype]

Nah, 99.9% of his posts in NBA Talk are about how great Paul Pierce is.

Paul Pierce obviously is one of the best players in the league, I would even say the best, so 99 would be fair enough. He does it all!

[supaboy47]

are you FUCKING crazy, he great but i would rate him 99.

[Christopherson]

Something needs to be done about Yao's passing skills. In the game, he always averages like 5 assists a game, but in real life his carreer high is like 1.4 a game. ???? Whats up with that? I know he is a "good passer" but his numbers dont warrent the rating.

[Silas]

if paul pierce is so good how come he cant score 81 pts like kobe or lead his team to 3 championships like duncan?

[Andrew]

no offense to andrew but this roster is kind of disappointing

somethin is messed up with these rosters, it must have been an accident.

andrew, im kinda disappointed man

why the hell is princes block rating only a 40. thats bs. it should at least be 80 at the lowest

You know what? I'm really, really disgusted and very fed up. There is absolutely no call for that kind of bullshit. I put all this time into the rosters, make the changes that people ask for and then I get blasted for it? That's totally ridiculous.

This is exactly the kind of attitude that makes the roster patching a real chore. I listen to the feedback, spend my free time doing roster updates so that you don't have to do any of the work yourself, free of charge...and you still aren't happy and spout off these rude comments.

I'm sick this. I'm really, really sick of this. It's bad enough I get treated like a robot who has nothing better to do than slave away over roster updates 24/7. It's bad enough I'm constantly bombarded with "Where is the patch?" "When is the patch coming?" "Why haven't you released the patch yet?" and so forth when I've explained the situation til I'm blue in the face. But I draw the line here. I am disgusted. Totally and utterly disgusted.

Quite frankly, I don't see why I should continue with the updates because I should not have to put up with this bullshit. The next update - if I do decide to release it (and you can bet it will be when I please and not a moment sooner) - might be the last for NBA Live 06, especially if this shit is going to continue.

why the hell is princes block rating only a 40. thats bs. it should at least be 80 at the lowest

Now, despite your utter rudeness and disrespect, I will answer that question. As suggested, I've raised the blocking ratings of Gerald Wallace and Josh Smith to around 80, as they're averaging over 2 blocks per game. Prince on the other hand is averaging .49 blocks per game, which is why I felt it should come down and making him an inside stopper was a bit much.

rip should be a scorer but i have no idea what was going through your head when you took away sheeds and tayshauns stopping ability, seriously man, especially tayshuan, hes one of the best defenders in the NBA

I've explained this in the other thread, but it was suggested his inside scoring rating come down. Perhaps it came down too much. That's what was "going through my head". Despite the rudeness I've had to endure here, I will consider changing it back.

I'll also take another look at Joe Johnson but the decreases there were also community for suggestions.

Andrew. I don't know how to instalation the new patch to my dinasty save roster folder (season). How to do it?

You can't. Sorry.

Thanks for releasing it but when i d/l it and tried to open it it said that the file was invalid or corrupt. Has anyone else had this problem, and if so can someone help me solve this problem?

Happens sometimes, the archive itself is fine though. Try downloading the update again.

Now...I can take a look at those players. As you know by now, I'm open to feedback, I'm happy to go back and revise things. But there is absolutely no excuse for the manner in which you put forth those requests. It's quite easy to ask me to look at something without flat out insulting my work and behaving like spoiled brats.

And don't come back at me with not being able to accept constructive criticism, because there no way those posts were considerate or constructive. I don't want to hear it. I put up with a lot of crap as far as the updates are concerned and now I'm well and truly fed up with it.

Show some respect, have some manners, cut the attitude. Or you'll be banned. Simple as that. I don't want to have to deal with this again.

Anyone who wants to respond to this with flames will be immediately banned. THIS ENDS NOW.

[supaboy47]

yea thast why i laid off. i truly love your updates and you teaching me how thats why i didnt try adn flame you if i did sorry

also, in that other post i was playing thats why the "lol" at the end. i give you your props. hopefully, i didnt make you mad. exspecially after you helped me with my own league adn have it on your page!

[JimRaynor55]

why the hell is princes block rating only a 40. thats bs. it should at least be 80 at the lowest

take away both Joe Johnson's stopper and scorer and take his 3s down? just because hes in atlanta and no one cares doesnt mean he sucks now.

Tayshaun Prince (defense)
Rasheed (offense/defense)
Joe Johnson (offense)

I think everyone should look at actual STATS before complaining about whether a player gets the Superstar treatment in a game. Liking a player does NOT mean that he's a scorer/stopper if his stats don't support it. Being a good defensive player who can stay in front of someone also doesn't mean that you're an Outside or Inside Stopper, which in this game means getting a lot of steals and blocks.

Suggestions about making changes to ratings are fine, but when you do make suggestions, make sure you know what the hell you're talking about, and don't act so ungrateful.

Andrew, there are people out there who appreciate your work. Don't let a few ingrates get to you.

[supaboy47]

there is more to defense than stats. some people just stay in front of there man play after play and never let you get free. those players should be counted as stoppers also. thats all im saying.

[Andrew]

Thanks Jim, appreciate the support as always.

supaboy, the point about stats not being everything is well-taken and I tend to agree with that philosophy as well...there are definitely situations where that holds true. But given the way things work with the ratings in the game, I have to take many factors into account. One of those is that ratings affect simulated stats directly. The best balance is not always the perfect situation.

[supaboy47]

I understand and as you know I respect you so whatever you choose to do, I will back you 110%!

[axare]

Mother f*cking morons, IS IT SO MOTHER F*CKING HARD TO CHANGE THE STATS YOURSELF is it so hard??

Andrew already took his time to update the rosters and some of you guys are bitching bout it...I am sick of this shit from everyone....

[tempo]

the changes andrew made were absoloutley right and warranted in my opinion, prince blocking as was iguodalas was way too high, 40 sounds about right. being a good defender dosent mean he has to be able to steal or block, defensive awarness, quickness length etc take into account during defence not just blocking shots.

honestley some of you are just fucking morons, if you can do a better update fire away we dont give a shit...in fact fuck off!!! sorry to be so rude moderators but some people are just plain ignorant and need a slap across the face. DONT SAY ANYTHING UNLESS ITS CONSTRUCTIVE!!! like instead of saying "i feel he is too low because his averages etc etc" you just make assumptions based on no factual evidence whatsover.

also rasheed wallace is not an inside superstar, sorry but yeah his aiight but sheeds game is from the outisde which when looked upon for his stats this year you can see the majority of his field goal attempts are from the outside.

props on the roster patch andrew.

[JohnA20]

I haven't dled the patch yet, but it sounds good. Didn't notice any primacy value problems yet but my most recent dynasty might be off 1.05 so i'll take your word.

Btw, if you want Pierce to be 99 overall, or have a rating of 80 in blocking, do it youself, it only takes like 5 minutes maximum.

[Andrew]

The only real test for Primacy is to simulate a season with injuries turned off (which is what I do a few times before each release, for multiple reasons) just to see how it goes without any recalculations. That's about the best I can do with Primacy this year...hopefully NBA Live 07 will not have the same issue. It's disappointing, I'd love to be able to improve that area but issues with the stats/sim engine really limit me there.

Thanks for the support axare and tempo.

[horry5]

Oh my, now it's either do or die or what ???!!!

It makes me really really sad to read ungrateful posts like that and I got my doubts if I ought to take that serious.

I mean what some of you do here is simply not fair. We're talking about a guy (Andrew) who is providing us with some stuff to enjoy a video game.


And he definitely made it more enjoyable over the last couple of years for everyone of you guys, otherwise you wouldn't be here !

You know, this is for free !!!!!!!!!

So please to all of you bellyacher just put some R-E-S-P-E-C-T in your temper... That can't be that difficult...

You know, R-E-S-P-E-C-T - Like Aretha likes to sing...

[J@3]

Rough translation of Andrew's post for those who don't enjoy reading:

I will break you

[AndurilMM]

Good job Andrew.People not understand that you try to reflect ACTUAL STATS on players,when this ratings´adjust is necessary to take more realism the game...

But i have a problem: All the alternate patch jerseys were missing with this update.I must download them again?

Thanks 4 advance