KG overrated according to Scottie pippen

[Its_asdf]

I don't think he's overrated, but he needs to be in a situation where he can get some help. Ricky Davis is supposedly a good second fiddle, but it hasn't translated into a huge improvement.

I did find it interesting that he put up similar numbers throughout his career to Webber though...

[BIG GREEN]

Pippin has been talking alot of shit since he retired indeed....dude is a jaded relic. If anybody was overrated..it's him..he couldnt do shit without jordan.

[Riot]

There are a few problems with Garnett's game that probably limit his ability to carry his team. He doesn't get to the free throw line, most of it is because he just isn't aggressive enough offensively but part of it is the refs. I know this is making excuses, and it really isn't that big of a deal, but Garnett is probably one of the few superstars who don't get superstar calls. The Timberwolves have sent countless videos to the NBA headquarters about calls not being called on Garnett. He just doesn't seem to get the calls.

The other thing is his killer instinct. He just doesn't seem to know how to put a team away. Now, a lot of it earlier in his career was because he was spending so much energy in the first 3 quarters just to keep the team in the game he simply ran out of gas in the 4th quarter. Now, it's almost like it is a habit for him. He is one hell of a player and the best player on the planet, but those are two things he really has to work on (and he is working on them). You can't say it is out of a lack of effort.

Being the homer that I am, I still say he'll win a championship in Minnesota and retire a T-Wolf. I still believe that 100%.

[air gordon]

what exactly is "it"? this post sounds like you're talking about GM'ing ability, (correct if i'm wrong), we're discussing the validity of NBA 'expert' anaysts based on actual nba experience

"It" would be refering to the amount of credibility I give to players opinions. And yes I am aware of what the topic is

of course no one should not take all of Pippen's thoughts & opinions as gospel. but considering all the achievements & experience on his resume and the numerous amount of great players he has played with & against, his opinions do have credibility/validity. And that's probably why he was hired by ABC. certainly he didn't make it there on his good looks or for being well spoken

When espn's 'expert' panel of Anthony, legler, or Tolbert give their thoughts about certain playerss, it doesn't mean squat since they were scrubs in the NBA.

You listed Greg Anthony as one of "those" guys (funnily enough he played with Pippen) who also played with a number of great players and had years of experience in the play-offs. Sure he wasn't the star Pippen was, but why would his opinion be any less valid? Obviously on some matters he wouldn't be as experienced (participating in the Olympics, winning a championship, playing with Jordan etc) but as far as I'm concerned since those specific events aren't being discussed, I don't see why his opinion of Kevin Garnett (for example) should be seen as any less valid or credible than Pippen's.

It's not like watching the Timberwolves requires a gold medal or a few DPOY's. Being a great player doesn't guarantee that you can evaluate a player better than someone who wasn't as good. By this reasoning we should all be going to Jordan for his views on everything and anything that happens in the NBA and ignoring everyone else.

The other guys, the ones who never played but scored jobs as "analysts" I would definitely take the word of a player over them. When it comes to the former players though, I don't really know why a few media voted awards and better statistics would really impact the validity of their opinion any. I do see your point though, I just don't 100% agree.

yeh definitely being the one of the best players doesn't translate into the best analyst. magic was decent when he was doing the color commentating for NBC. Same with Isiah

imo since Pippen has experience playing/winning with the one the best players ever, Jordan, and participated on that 92' Olympic team, his opinion on great players weighs more then some former NBA regular like Greg Anthony. What experience can Anthony draw from? watching Ewing defer to John Starks in the NBA finals? but hey that's just me

and it's not like Pippen making all star teams, winning postseason awards, etc were a farce. but yeh- there will always be Pippen haters

btw- i do think Anthony ok analyst. his biggest strength is that he's a well spoken guy. I think before Espn put in the studio with Legler and Smith, he was pretty solid. but now he's turned more to sensationalism since that team now is mostly a pissing match

[Fitzy]

as if KGs over rated, he won the mvp

[ShAuN]

How can KG be overrated. Hes definatley one of the best in the NBA. The only real strong argument of whos better than KG, would maybe be LeBron. Scotties f'ed up.

[Bang]

It's because Scottie Pippen never got the credit he deserved, so he now calls anyone who is about as good as him or is better than him and gets better credit as overrated. I'd be bitter too if I were probably one of the best guards ever, forced to take small salaries (during his best years), always under Jordan's shadow and never receiving much credit for it.

[spreeul8r]

Can someone add a poll option: Who gives a shit? These days these hermit-old players have nothing else to do but gamble, drink, play golf and talk about the "good old days".

Where do i sign up?

[Jeffx]

Pippin has been talking alot of shit since he retired indeed....dude is a jaded relic. If anybody was overrated..it's him..he couldnt do shit without jordan.

That's what I'm saying...who gives a f--- what Pippen thinks? He has a right to his opinion, but I have the right to ignore it.

[And 1]

Where do you live bro'!? Duncan!-no way, Duncan is good player but wouldn't have those rings without his partners in crime-awesome(Tony Parker and Manu), change their teams and put Duncan in that shitty Timberwolves, what would be!? i bet Timberwolves would have less wins than they have with KG.

KG is not overated, he is the best PF in NBA and we all know that, the key for KG would be making move to LA, thats for sure!

Only overated person in this story is Pippen, MJ made Pippen-Pippen, yes,
imagine Pippen in bulls without MJ, he would be typical basic player.

I hate when i hear Pippen talk about Kobe and now KG!

Kobe is untouchable rightnow and KG too, who is Pippen to talk about those players!

Only person who can talk about overate or quality is Michael Jordan, so shut the fck up Pip' and go play some golf!

don't agree with it unless you think kg is the best player in the league. in that case i could see where pip is coming from. sorry riot.

Kevin Garnett and Kobe Bryant are the best players on the league, and really there isn't anyone that close to them either.

1. duncan
2. kg/kobe
3. wade/lebron

[magius]

apparently not croatia.

who is pippen to criticize kobe and kg? how about one of the 50 greatest players to ever play the game? what about a 6 time champion? who are you to criticize pippen?

kobe, other than personal statistics, has NOTHING pippen doesn't. nothing. no mvp, no finals mvp, a couple of championships as the clear cut #2... ring a bell? when shaq left kobe has become an mvp candidate (which he won't win) -- is your memory so bad that you forget that when mj left pip also became an mvp candidate? in fact you can cancel out kobe's personal stats with the fact that pip was a legit dpoy candidate every year.

now kg may have an mvp, but that means less imo as he hasn't had any team success.

people like you are the reason people like pip think kg is overrated. better than duncan? are you kidding me? duncan's "partners-in-crime" have been different EVERY SINGLE championship. no other player in nba history can say that they've won in so short a period of time as the clear cut #1 with such a changing supporting cast. in fact, because of people like you, i'd say duncan is the most underrated player in nba history.

saying that if you put kg in td's play and vice versa that they would have the same or similar success is the stupidest thing i have ever heard. its like saying if you put ewing in olajowan's shoes ewing would've won a championship. give me a break. what we have is the FACTS. stick to them and stop fantisizing. thats like a bitter bum saying he would've been the richest man alive if he'd have had better luck. you know what? maybe. but the fact remains he's still a fucking bum. go cry to mama.

[Axel]

KG is good, but I don't think he's overrated... I would rank several other forwards above him...

1. Brand
2. Nowitzki
3. Duncan
4. Melo
5. KG

[Laxation]

Only person who can talk about overate or quality is Michael Jordan, so shut the fck up Pip' and go play some golf!

so you need to be the best player ever to comment on how good someone is? give me a fucking break...

[air gordon]

It's because Scottie Pippen never got the credit he deserved, so he now calls anyone who is about as good as him or is better than him and gets better credit as overrated. I'd be bitter too if I were probably one of the best guards ever, forced to take small salaries (during his best years), always under Jordan's shadow and never receiving much credit for it.

where did you get this information from? Pippen definitely got his share of credit and definitely got paid handsomely towards the end of his career to make up for the smaller salaries he had. Shit- Pip i think got 10 mil from the Bulls for doing nothing his last 2yrs in the league

Pippen could have been jealous of Jordan at times but almost never complained publicly. When Jordan retired, Pippen was forced to experience what is was like to be the #1 guy of the team/take the most heat from the media. And when Jordan came back he appreciated and embraced his role as "Batman". Pippen was able to check his ego at the door and make the most out of the situation

Even a laker fan can appreciate/have respect for this after watching their 1-2 combo bicker & bicker and finally part ways because they couldn't get along

That's what I'm saying...who gives a f--- what Pippen thinks? He has a right to his opinion, but I have the right to ignore it.

obviously ABC/Espn does since Pip is the lead studio analyst on Sundays and occasionally on Fridays

[GloveGuy]

It should be noted that in 1993-1994, the MJ-less, Pippen-lead Chicago Bulls went 55-27, and lost in the Western Conference Finals to the Knicks. Some say they were one bad call away from making the Finals. Pippen was an MVP candidate that year.

After Jordan's second retirement, he wasn't the same player he was in his prime. Not because he was without Jordan, but his age was catching up to him. I seem to remember in his final year with the Bulls, we was plagued with a bad back, an ailment that would continue for the rest of his career.

As far as his abilities go, Pippen was far from overrated.

[Riot]

KG is good, but I don't think he's overrated... I would rank several other forwards above him...

1. Brand
2. Nowitzki
3. Duncan
4. Melo
5. KG

You cannot be serious...

[Laxation]

KG is good, but I don't think he's overrated... I would rank several other forwards above him...

1. Brand
2. Nowitzki
3. Duncan
4. Melo
5. KG

youve got to be fucking joking

[And 1]

Pippen what! no, you dont have to be best player to comment someone but Pippen is wrong about KG, you could say Pippen did this-Pippen did that so what!

Pip was an mvp candidate, so what!, Kobe is definitly alot better player then Pippen,
what are you talking about, Kobe will be mvp thats for sure.

Yes, PIP handled things in his hands after MJ left but that was very short.

Duncan isn't underated, he's quality pf but no way he is the best, and i'm still sure that Spurs are great team, they always had quality players around Duncan and awesome coach, even when they change the lineup season to season, they were compact team who had answers in almost all positions in the game.

So far those: Brand is an all-star quality, Nowitzki is better then Duncan in my opinion, but please take down Melo from that list, those are PF's and besides that Melo need to learn lot of things to be in that list with those players.

[Jugs]

Just stop. Nowitzki better than Duncan? Please. And he said 'forwards' and Melo is a 'forward'

[Fresh8]

^^ I'm just wondering what happened there?

[Riot]

What do you mean?

[fgrep15]

I love how when some media people talk about KG, they forget the multiple 50 win season he had in a strong West. They forget he wont 51 games one year when Troy Hudson was the main second option because Wally got injured. They forget he won MVP, had the best records in the West, and went to the WCF the one year he actually had a good team. He also could've got to the NBA Finals is Cassell didn't get injured.

Of course KG losing to much better teams in the playoffs every year before that means he's bad . KG in the East would've had like 4 first seeds, and a few trips to the finals.

KG is good, but I don't think he's overrated... I would rank several other forwards above him...

1. Brand
2. Nowitzki
3. Duncan
4. Melo
5. KG

This season Dirk and Brand have played better, and that's all. Melo? He's good, but he games is mostly just scoring, though he is an improved defender. Duncan has sucked due to injury all year. If we're talking about just in general, it's still Duncan and KG at 1 and 2.

[And 1]

Jugs, we talking about big PF's like KG, Duncan and Brand, Melo is young and he's SF, good shooter but in my opinion he isnt the type of player similar to those guys that i mention.

[Deadmaninc]

he is not overrated!
he has 24 straight double double's and still going, what is the last time that this happend??

[Riot]

he is not overrated!
he has 24 straight double double's and still going, what is the last time that this happend??

Kevin Willis did it 14 years ago or so.