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too many uncalled travells

Postby ultimateplaya on Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:21 pm

most of the times i watch matches in the nba, they make too many travells that are uncalled for like once i saw d-wade go for a dunk and he took 3 steps. wuts up with that?
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Postby mark_30_112 on Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:34 pm

Maybe the refs need to go to OPSM.

Nah I really think sometimes a ref cannot always make perfect calls I myself em a ref and I cannot call everything sometimes humans "DO" make mistakes.
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Postby Matt on Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:43 pm

they do a good enough job on the post, but perimeter guys are allowed to shuffle their feet, that's inexucusable.
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Postby mark_30_112 on Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:30 pm

Of course they have to you cannot have perfect precision footwork well maybe you can. :mrgreen:
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Postby Andrew on Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:54 pm

A lot of shuffling goes on in the NBA as well as other more subtle things, like hopping after a rebound.
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Postby dada on Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:39 pm

The 3/4/5 steps players like Wade and Lebron use to go dunk is very noticeable. I think it would be pretty hard to miss those calls but the refs prove otherwise. I can understand them letting the more subtle things slide though.
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Postby John WB on Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:59 am

I have no problem with them not calling it, but then they gotta not call it consistently and that's not what they do, so I don't like that.

Gotta have consistency to their calls.
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Postby Num33Baller on Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:14 am

Refs don't call travel anymore unless its very blatantly obvious.

Heck... usually pro hops are travels... but you don't call that.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:28 am

haha, I've noticed it too. If they keep this up playing for Team USA, their games are going to be brutal.
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Postby dada on Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:40 pm

Num33Baller wrote:Heck... usually pro hops are travels... but you don't call that.


I was watching something on NBA tv the other day dealing with that same hop step issue. In this instance they were talking about a play with Lebron where he jumps off his right foot then lands on the same foot before taking the other step with the left foot (thats what made ti a travel). So I guess if you go right/left/right (not right/right/left) its fine.

...sounds a bit confusing.
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Postby maes on Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:05 pm

The NBA trying to explain what travel is, the irony.

They're all travels, once your dribble is picked up your landing steps are your final steps. 3 steps inherently means he travelled unless LeBron has 3 legs.

The other thing they've stopped calling is carrying. If you watch the Piston-Spurs Finals from last year you'll see Chauncey routinely holds the ball with his palm facing almost straight up in between his dribbles, which makes it basically impossible to steal the ball from him.

The funniest part is when the big fundamental, Tim Duncan went ballistic and screamed at the ref that Billups was carrying, and the refs ignored him and the Pistons took advantage of it and scored on the Spurs.

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Postby Num33Baller on Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:58 pm

Yeah... Carrying, they don't call that anymore... but they havent for a good 15 years now.

If they did, half of the PGs in this league would be out of a job and the first one would be Rafer Alston. :lol:
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Postby J@3 on Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:13 pm

I hope they don't change anything. The highlight of the Olympics for me was watching LeBron take about 9 steps before throwing down his usual 1 handed dunk, then turning around looking absolutely shocked at the referee calling travel :lol: this happened many times. Everytime a travel was called, the players looked like the ref had just shot their wives.
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Postby Laxation on Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:40 pm

Jae wrote:I hope they don't change anything. The highlight of the Olympics for me was watching LeBron take about 9 steps before throwing down his usual 1 handed dunk, then turning around looking absolutely shocked at the referee calling travel :lol: this happened many times. Everytime a travel was called, the players looked like the ref had just shot their wives.

lmfao

i think the worst travels are when the players get the ball outside the 3pt line and seem to take 3-4steps before they put the ball on the ground. ive started to assume they only call travels when it actually matters...
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Postby air2k5 on Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:42 pm

People want entertainment, Lebron, Wade they all take more than 2 steps when they go for a dunk most of the time, refs let it go alot.
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Postby KIG1 on Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:46 pm

Last year remember steve francis when he threw the ball to himself and dunked it

he took 4 steps and the refs didnt call a thing. it riduculous
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Postby Num33Baller on Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:37 pm

keepnitgangsta1 wrote:Last year remember steve francis when he threw the ball to himself and dunked it

he took 4 steps and the refs didnt call a thing. it riduculous


if the ball hits the glass its legal.
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Postby cklitsie on Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:55 pm

Nah man, Steve did take 4 steps before throwing it up, then another 3 or 4 steps and then went up to get it. Rasheed Wallace was doing the traveling signal like his life depended on it. :lol:

Why's TD bitching by the way? He does the 3 step thing too. :roll:
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Postby Matt on Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:44 pm

the refs have done an adequate job of calling travels and palming this season, but not when it comes to star players.
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Postby Isaiah on Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:55 pm

kobe sorta travelled before shooting his OT-forcing 3-pointer against Portland in the game that made the Lakers win the Pacific Division
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Postby H Rock on Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:53 pm

Too many travels makes things less exciting. So, no travels called. Simple.
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Postby Sauru on Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:34 pm

yeah, its basically another way to try and increase scoreing and try to make todays players look even better. same with the no carry calls and the insane amount of touch fouls they call
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Postby Patr1ck on Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:03 pm

Once your dribble is picked up(2 hands, or one hand under the ball) you have two steps, everybody knows that. Players abuse this by taking 3 to 4 steps while they are still in a "dribling motion". Then they put the ball in two hands and take their two steps, all in stride - there's the 3-5 steps.
Its payback from the players for the refs taking away the killer crossover a few years ago with the overcarry calls.
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Postby Pera on Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:55 pm

maybe the refs just won't call traveling because they want a show from the superstar players :)
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Postby Matt on Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:54 pm

Once your dribble is picked up(2 hands, or one hand under the ball) you have two steps, everybody knows that. Players abuse this by taking 3 to 4 steps while they are still in a "dribling motion". Then they put the ball in two hands and take their two steps, all in stride - there's the 3-5 steps.
Its payback from the players for the refs taking away the killer crossover a few years ago with the overcarry calls


yeah this happens a lot. Guys take long strides whilst still dribbling and the whole act looks like 4/5 steps. Sometimes though they take too many and it gets uncalled.
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