How many believe Pierce will be traded by Feb. 23???

[J@3]

Green is garbage.

You must be baked out of your mind man.......Green is really good. Hes not playing because Doc Rivers is a moron.

Or because he's not good enough

[Scotty]

Paul Pierce~Celtics

[Mentally Hilarious]

Pierce is staying. No two ways about it. Does anyone really think that DA would trade for Wally if he didn't plan to do ahead with the winning while rebuilding thing he has promoted for a while now?

hard to say, Mentally H. the deal was an exchange our problems for yours type. So far the early returns on the deal has been negative.

No, PP is staying. He's not pouting, and playing the best basketball of his career on what may turn out to be the worst team of his career with all the injuries and whatnot.

You might aswell book it, PP stays unless the Celtics get some insane package like NYk pick+Deng+1 future unprotected first from the Bulls. Which we all know wont happen.

There is nothing to book. Pierce is entering his prime, the youngsters need time to develop, both Pierce and Davis were having their best years and the Celts were still a sub .500 team, and Ainge has been the Boston version of Isiah.

These all are reasons that a trade could happen

Yes, it could happen but it would take a package close to the magnitude I described. The last month-ish since the trade, every time DA been on WEEI or such he's stressed that he has no reason nor incentive to trade him.

PP (finally) seems happy playing in Boston under Doc, which might be a bad thing though since Doc sucks. But he doesn't pout. At last. And that might just be because he's been promised a trade, but I doubt it.
DA is on record saying that they already have contract extension for PP at the end of the season. So that will be the indicator if he stays for his career or close to it. You don't offer a max player an extension with 2+1 to go.

[air gordon]

fair points, MH

However- nothing is writtien in stone. you can't say for certain that he will be or not traded. all we can do is as fans is speculate one way or the other

Maybe Ainge is addressing these rumors so it won't effect the players. Paxson did the same thing a few weeks. LOL he was quite upset when he heard of some Gordon trade.

Pierce is being a professional for now and keeping his mouth shut. But maybe behind the doors/off the record it's possible he's not happy that the Celts may not even make the playoffs.

And what further fuels the speculation is that Ainge isn't exactly a man of his word and isn't shy pull the trigger on what some may think is a questionable deal

As i said earlier- I don't see a trade happening now though if the Celts don't make the playoffs, it could happen. And if the Bulls make the postseason, Chicago would be a very attractive situation for Pierce

btw- where did you get that trade idea? can't happen anyway since the salaries don't match

[Mentally Hilarious]

btw- where did you get that trade idea? can't happen anyway since the salaries don't match

Oh, I know it doesn't match. Just threw it out as an example of what I think it would take for DA to move PP. That is if Pierce haven't turned in a request for a trade.

Say Thomas+Deng+NYK pick for PP+Scabs+the lower of the Lakers pick this year and the Twolves pick in '08, '09, '10. As a package I think might do it from DA's point of view. Even though I myself hate it, no matter how much I love Deng or Gay/Morrison/Bargnani.

[air gordon]

I think if Boston is going to dump a bad salary on the Bulls, it's going to have come in the form of a center/PF. Raef Lafrentz

Bulls fans won't want to part with NYk's pick, especially since NYK is amidst that terrible losing streak.

And I'm guessing Celtic fans are going to want the pick for that reason hehe

I'm trying my best not to be bias here...

If Boston were to trade both Raef and Paul Pierce- I believe Chicago will give up 1 of 2 from Gordon and Hinrich.. Plus either Deng or NYK's pick or Chicago's 1st round, then someone salary fill ins with convenient contacts like Harrington, Allen, Sweentey, or Songalia

That would give Boston:
a boat of cap room
depending on how you view Gordon/Hinrich/Deng- you would get 2 goodplayers who have yet to realize their potential
and possibly a pick that should be top 3

So at the least you would get 2 young but productive players, a draft pick, and cap room to aid in the rebuilding

Now maybe or maybe not you think that's worth it to give up a player like Pierce and to have the burden of Raef's contract lifted. What do you think?

[Mentally Hilarious]

Intresting proposal indeed.

Raef has been playing very good recently with very, very stable shooting and confident play. But with his knees and that abominable contract he is still someone that I'd rather get rid of. But he does ensure a good option off the bench in either him or in AlJeff depending on if Doc gets fired or not.

Deng is one of my favorite players, but I'm still not sure what kind of player he will become. Can he handle being the first option? Will he be able to carry a team down the stretch?

Gordon is a player I just dislike and want no part of. Hinrich on the other hand would be a true PG that Boston needs if it weren't for DA's and Doc's infatuation with West. They seriously love the kid, and he is starting to win me over. I would rather se a Brevin Knight backing him up than a Hinrich pushing him to the bench.

The NYK-pick would garner the C's one of Aldridge/Morrison/Gay. And I'm not sold on either as a 5 time All-star like PP. Aldridge is thoroughly unimpressive to me, Gay seems like a bust waiting to happen and Morrison seems to be Wally MkII.

It's a tough call, but in the end I'd do it. Not sure if DA would though.

[Andrew]

Gordon is a player I just dislike and want no part of.

Suits me fine since I don't want the Bulls to trade him. But any reason in particular that you dislike him?