Move Over, Kobe...Prince is in Da House!!!

[Jeffx]

113 points?? Dayum!

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hscho ... 9027c.html

[J@3]

She should have 20 points deducted for being named "Epiphanny".

That's pretty impressive though, sounds like the D was completely non existant but even making 54/60 open lay ups is fairly impressive. She'd probably get drafted in the WNBA purely because of his performance.

Edit:

The record-setting performance caps a turbulent year of redemption for Prince, who was tried last spring for her role in a brawl outside a Brooklyn supermarket. Prince was acquitted of assault and menacing charges but found guilty of harassment and sentenced to 15 days of community service.

[Null17]

now that's gangsta

[air_edwards23]

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Basketball/Ne ... 32-ap.html

kobe must feel cheesed right now lol

[Fitzy]

but thats only high school ball...
but well done to her

[Mazzocchi]

A women out of the kitchen? Thats unheard of

[Axel]

but thats only high school ball...
but well done to her

And games aren't as long either

[Num33Baller]

but thats only high school ball...
but well done to her

And games aren't as long either

yeah 32 min games instead of 48

[Anthony15]

wow maybe they played a team of midgets or something? The other team scored only 32

[Jing]

goddamn...

[Pross]

Lisa Leslie had 101 points in a game when she was in high school. Thing is she did it all in the first half!!

[BIG GREEN]

Heard about this on one of the radio morning shows..and to be honest..im not that excited. It's impressive no doubt...but i dont care much to hear "her story".

[cyanide]

Heard about this on one of the radio morning shows..and to be honest..im not that excited. It's impressive no doubt...but i dont care much to hear "her story".

Same here. It's not the same compared to NBA level, imo.

[Mazzocchi]

i love how my posts go unoticed. I'm like a ghost

[Andrew]

I don't know about it dwarfing Kobe's 81 since when you're talking about the NBA you're talking about the best league in the world. However it's still quite an accomplishment to say the very least. 54/60 from the field? Now that's something out of a video game!

[[L3]1101]

One record that shouldn't have been set
February 2, 2006

Hockey readers alert: I'm going off topic here. And yes, it's allowed.

I woke up this morning to appalling sports news. No, I don't care very much about the great Joey Porter/Jerramy Stevens mouth wars. And, no, this isn't about the U.S. naming Chris Chelios its Olympic captain (not that I don't have an opinion on that, which I will just as soon keep to myself). This is about a girls high school basketball game in New York City that was played last night.

Epiphanny Prince, a city hoops star with a great name and game to match, went off for 113 points in a 137-32 victory for her Murry Bergtraum High over Louis Brandeis High. She was 54-for-60. Sixty shots. She took sixty shots. And she broke Cheryl Miller's girls' high school record of 105 points, set in 1982.

When I first heard the story, I thought maybe Prince and her coach, Ed Grezinsky, allowed this to happen because it was a once in a lifetime chance to hold a national record -- possibly for quite a long time. It was a chance to write her name in the record books. But then I read a quote from Prince. She didn't know she broke the record until the game was over. And this is where I get a queasy feeling in my stomach.

Does Coach Grezinsky have no bench? Was Prince out there alone or were there actual teammates she could have passed the ball to? The teammates, for those of you not doing the math, combined for 24 whole points in the game. Maybe one of them -- one of them not going on to Division I basketball like Prince -- could have had a great personal day. Maybe, just maybe, the humiliation of the Louis Brandeis players could have been eased a bit.

Grezinsky was called "unapologetic" in the New York Post and was quoted as saying, "I took all the other starters out and we only pressed a little bit."

They pressed? Even a little? Is he kidding?

At least Grezinsky admits he knew about the record and thought it possible at halftime, so he let Prince take advantage of the opportunity. That decision was not appreciated by the opposing team's coach, Vera Springer.

"She didn't earn this," Springer said. "It was like picking on a handicapped person." Springer didn't blame Prince, though.

"It's nothing against Epiphanny. I have great admiration for her," Springer said. "This was an adult decision. Why would you do this against a team like ours?"

I find myself in full agreement with Springer. This is high school ball, people, let's have a little perspective. Some kids are just out there to play and have fun and that's OK, that's good, that should be celebrated. My disgust is not really aimed at Prince or even so much personally at Grezinsky, as much as it is as every coach and team that lets their star go above and beyond and needlessly rub the opposition's noses in their futility. Right or wrong, when a Major League Baseball team is up by enough in a game, there is an unwritten rule of conduct and sportsmanship that says, for example, you don't steal bases. People are appalled and offended when such transgressions occur. And that's in professional sports. This is high school.

Congratulations to Prince on her accomplishment. May she hold the record forever because no player who comes after her is allowed to attempt to break it in a rout (is there a word for something beyond rout?) of a weak opponent.

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/vi ... hp?t=58639

Here's a good article that gives another point of view to this story. Is this good sportsmanship on the coaching part? But congrads to the girl!![/url]

[Andrew]

I don't agree with that. If you want to call it bad sportsmanship then you could say the same for Wilt and Kobe's marks, both of which were set after the game was in the bag. She "didn't earn it"? Sorry, but if there's any bad sportsmanship in the whole ordeal its "sore loser" comments like that.

[[L3]1101]

well for kobe and wilt's case, they are in a business. There are money to be made, jersey to sell, more things to advertise. They are also at a very competitive level.

As is said before, this is just another point of view. I agree with that "sore loser" comments. 54/60 FG is pretty ridiculous. There's no defense there.

[Andrew]

True, the NBA is a whole different ballgame to high school hoops. But some of the basic principles of competition hold true for both levels of the game. If the game is won and the coach is comfortable with letting one of his players achieve a personal milestone, so be it.

[[L3]1101]

But Andrew, the score was 131 - 32 !!!

[Num33Baller]

I don't agree with that. If you want to call it bad sportsmanship then you could say the same for Wilt and Kobe's marks, both of which were set after the game was in the bag. She "didn't earn it"? Sorry, but if there's any bad sportsmanship in the whole ordeal its "sore loser" comments like that.

I totally agree.

But Andrew, the score was [b]131 - 32[/32] !!!

So? Maybe that team should be in a lower division, if they get outscored times 3 by one player.

[[L3]1101]

High school is a very fundamental level. These kids only started learning, not playing, basketball. Notice there's a difference in playing basketball and learning it. At this level the coaches need to teach them the fundamental concept of basketball and among many things, basketball is a team sport. Coaches need to reinforce that concept.

Let's try to analyse this game from our point of view:

The team is up say 50 point at some point

- the coach decides to let the bench players play the game, but leaves Prince. Which is fine.

- instead of letting the players who hasn't played much play, the coach lets the girl score every position. And she does it. What was she thinking? Instead of letting the bench players play some minutes and get some experience on the court, she decides to take every shot.

- instead of using this game to let the entire team "practice" some of their plays, the girl takes every shot.

Not everyone playing high school sports are there for college scholarships. This girl obviously has skills and will be going to a good college, and have a good basketball career. But if she wants to impress the scouts, get some assists, play some defense, SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP. Because when a game is this bad, scoring 50 vs 113 isn't all that different.

[Num33Baller]

High school is a very fundamental level. These kids only started learning, not playing, basketball. Notice there's a difference in playing basketball and learning it.

Maybe for a school who has 300 people, and then only their JV team.


Please, this is an inner city varsity squad.

These kids have been playing for most of their lives.

[Andrew]

But Andrew, the score was 131 - 32 !!!

The fact remains, it's the coach's choice as to who he wants to play and the strategy they employ.

Let's try to analyse this game from our point of view:

The team is up say 50 point at some point

- the coach decides to let the bench players play the game, but leaves Prince. Which is fine.

- instead of letting the players who hasn't played much play, the coach lets the girl score every position. And she does it. What was she thinking? Instead of letting the bench players play some minutes and get some experience on the court, she decides to take every shot.

- instead of using this game to let the entire team "practice" some of their plays, the girl takes every shot.

Not everyone playing high school sports are there for college scholarships. This girl obviously has skills and will be going to a good college, and have a good basketball career. But if she wants to impress the scouts, get some assists, play some defense, SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP. Because when a game is this bad, scoring 50 vs 113 isn't all that different.

All good points and valid criticisms. But the opposing coach isn't talking about any of that. He's suggesting it's bad sportsmanship to allow her to score so many points when the game is in the bag. And that's just being a sore loser. Now, if the winning team is taunting their opponents or tossing up shots from halfcourt at random or just showboating, one could say they were being bad winners and that it would be bad sportsmanship.

[[L3]1101]

then that's even worse. they've been playing most of their lives, and they still haven't learned that basketball is a team sport. They haven't learned anything OR they've been tought the wrong way. It seems like kids in the US are tought to score and be more selfish these days because they want to get that multimillinar contracts. Maybe this is why we are seen more international players?