No, just becuase its a "hate" thread doesnt give people a free pass to be spastics.
Lets see how many of those Phil and Kobe get without Shaq?
How many rings does Shaq have without kobe and phil?
Wasn't Shaq the MVP for all of the championships.
Isnt it funny when Shaqs the MVP, he gets
all the credit. But when Kobe is playing well, he's hurting his "great" role playing teamates? How about giving Kobe credit, he was the reason the Lakers beat Sacramento in 2002, and he was just as valuable as shaq in their playoff run in 2001.
Now to the actual point of all this; Are you guys actually that insecure about someone that you have to hate him? Are you scared of him? Why would you be that jealous of him?
Seriously. Kobe plays an all round role with the lakers in 2000, he gets criticised becuase he isnt on Iversons or Carter's level becuase he isnt the man. Then in 2001, he carries alot of the offensive load becuase Rice was traded, and he takes on the added leadership, gets another ring, and gets criticised again.
2002, He's all nba 1st team, wins another ring, gets more criticism. The next season, he puts the Lakers on his back and averaged 30,6 and 5 and gets laughed at becuase he cried when they lost. So lets not criticise shaq for not caring enough to cry, or for being so out of shape he couldnt carry the same amount of responsability as kobe. Yes, its all kobes fault.
Then in 2004, he takes only one shot in a game against sacaramento, and he gets accudes of "sabotaging " the game. These are the same "fans" that criticise him for being a ballhog becuase he actually has the skills and balls to put a team on his back and trying to lead them.
Then Shaq decides to demand a trade becuase he isnt getting the same amount of touches as before? You have to work not only to get those looks, but to keep them. You cant expect to just stay on top of the hill becuase you got there once. You have to be the best. So shaq gets traded (mainly becuase of his comments todards team owner jerry buss in a pre season game; "pay me motherfucker"), and yet Kobe is percieved to be the one who caused it? Whatever.
If Jordan didnt have enough say to keep pippen, rodman and jackson in chicago after 98, what makes you think that Kobe had more say to kick out Shaq, Malone, Payton and Jackson? Yeah thats right, you're full of shit.
Last season, Kobe put up 28, 6 and 6, and yet its his fault that the Lakers didnt make the playoffs? Wheres the blame for Odom, Butler and co? The supporting cast that hindered a playoff run. Now this season, Kobe isnt letting that happen again, he's taking games over and now he's a "ballhogging egomaniac". Name me one NBA player who has never been, whether it was in the nba, college or high school.
Lebron gets criticised for passing up game winning shot opportunities, kobe gets criticised for making them. This generation of fans are generally idiots. They dont know what they want. A celebrated loser like Tmac is more adored than a 3 time NBA champion in Byrant. Excuses account for more than accomplishments.