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Postby Matt on Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:42 pm

i don't see how 5 games is steep. He broke the rules knowing there would be severe punishment whether anything happened or not. It's simple. Sure, what he did was somewhat justifiable but he aint security.
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Postby Andrew on Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:46 pm

I disagree with the five game suspension, a one or two game suspension at the most would have been more appropriate. Even though he didn't throw any punches and was calm about the matter, he still broke a rule. When you break any rule or law in life, even for a noble reason, there's going to be consequences. But given the circumstances, there's no need to make an example of him. As I said, one game would have been enough, two tops.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:08 pm

I agree. One or two games should have been enough. But judging from Stern's disciplinary line so far, I guess this is not a very big surprise.
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Postby Matthew on Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:10 pm

Matt wrote:i don't see how 5 games is steep. He broke the rules knowing there would be severe punishment whether anything happened or not. It's simple. Sure, what he did was somewhat justifiable but he aint security.

I know, he actually arrived in time. Some security should learn how to do.
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Postby air gordon on Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:05 am

now that i've thought about it some more...

Stern should have gave him at least 10 games if he meant what he said when he said "no player will ever go into the stands" or something like that.

Doesn't make it right but if a player feels his family is in danger, a little 5 game suspension will not deter him into going into the stands

at least 10 games could equate to about 3 weeks of no games and salary.
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Postby Matthew on Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:08 am

I dont think any amount of games will prevent a player (or anyone) from going into the stands to protect a family member, especially immediate family.
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Postby Yougi on Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:10 am

Especially your loved one.
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Postby Num33Baller on Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:12 am

Matthew wrote:
Matt wrote:i don't see how 5 games is steep. He broke the rules knowing there would be severe punishment whether anything happened or not. It's simple. Sure, what he did was somewhat justifiable but he aint security.

I know, he actually arrived in time. Some security should learn how to do.


Security was already there.
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Postby air gordon on Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:32 am

Matthew wrote:I dont think any amount of games will prevent a player (or anyone) from going into the stands to protect a family member, especially immediate family.

yep i agree

This incident could have been a whole lot worse. If there was one hostile fan within the vicinity, it could have turned into a riot

Stern needs to find a way from preventing this from happening again. I don't think heightened security for every single arena for every single game would work. In the Untied Center alone, there about 23 sections/entrances to the 100 level. It's double that for the 200 & 300 level. In the local news, it's been reported that normally there is one security person per section, facing the crowd. IN addition there are ushers. Unless each section gets security as if the the President is sitting in each seat, a player can make it into the stands.

Maybe Stern should look into handing out harsher penalties
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Postby Matthew on Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:14 am

Num33Baller wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Matt wrote:i don't see how 5 games is steep. He broke the rules knowing there would be severe punishment whether anything happened or not. It's simple. Sure, what he did was somewhat justifiable but he aint security.

I know, he actually arrived in time. Some security should learn how to do.


Security was already there.

No they werent. They were allegedly watching it, but they werent there until Davis got to the situation.

Maybe Stern should look into handing out harsher penalties

To who? I cant see how harsher penalites towards players defending themselves and their families will solve it. I think teams should face some responsability. They claim the fans are part of their team, but when this sort of thing has happened, they always blame the players. How about the league comming down on the organisation if they fail to provide adequate secuirity?
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Postby Andrew on Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:32 pm

More news on the fan wanting an apology. Personally I think it's utterly ridiculous, but I won't say too much or I might get sued for slander. :roll:
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Postby air gordon on Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:33 pm

Matthew-

In this situation, the fans didn't do anything wrong. No beer thrown at players, no fans stepping on the court

Security was already there on the scene before Davis got there. Since a player's wife was invovled in the "argument", security gave the situation a little more leeway then a regular situation. The situation would have been resolved regardless of Davis going there

The problem was Davis going into the stands (and probably kendra Davis being a loon). Yes any normal man would defend his family and go up there but that still doesn't make it right. There has to be some kind of way to get it into the players heads that they can't go into the crowd no matter what the reason. 5 game suspensions will not do it. It cannot be overstated that the NBA was very fortunate a riot did not occur

Maybe NY should be held accountable for this incident. Their security guy was attending to Mo Taylor, who had been ejected. If they brought more of their team's personnal security, Davis probably wouldn't gotten past the scores table.

No but seriously- i don't think more Security is the solution. Even in a big venue like the Super Bowl, a fan makes it on the field nude almost every year.
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Postby Num33Baller on Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:49 pm

air gordon wrote:Matthew-

In this situation, the fans didn't do anything wrong. No beer thrown at players, no fans stepping on the court

Security was already there on the scene before Davis got there. Since a player's wife was invovled in the "argument", security gave the situation a little more leeway then a regular situation. The situation would have been resolved regardless of Davis going there

The problem was Davis going into the stands (and probably kendra Davis being a loon). Yes any normal man would defend his family and go up there but that still doesn't make it right. There has to be some kind of way to get it into the players heads that they can't go into the crowd no matter what the reason. 5 game suspensions will not do it. It cannot be overstated that the NBA was very fortunate a riot did not occur

Maybe NY should be held accountable for this incident. Their security guy was attending to Mo Taylor, who had been ejected. If they brought more of their team's personnal security, Davis probably wouldn't gotten past the scores table.

No but seriously- i don't think more Security is the solution. Even in a big venue like the Super Bowl, a fan makes it on the field nude almost every year.


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Postby IronMan on Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:35 am

There's all this talk about protecting your family and all that nonsense. The guy was not attacking AD's wife, there was nobody being held hostage... as far as I could see on the tape, there was evidence of a heated discussion. But how about we just let everyone do their jobs? Let the sports players and security guard do what they're paid to do.
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Postby maes on Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:39 am

AD didn't get a chance to review tape before making a decision to get up there. As for security and this "drunk" guy, Kenda already reported to the media the MORONIC security kicked out the WRONG guy, the guy who physically grabbed her was not Axelrod, he actually said he was sorry once Kendra reminded him children were here, and has been getting wrongfully bashed in the media.

AD's gonna trust these Einsteins with his wife, his kid, and his kid's 10 friends? I'm glad he went up there to check it out himself, better to be a less of a NBA cronie but a good father.

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