Larry Brown vs. Stephon Marbury, Round One!

by **Colin** on Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:13 am

They both have a point. Keep in mind I merely skimmed the rest of the thread.

Brown is trying to turn this team into the Pistons it seems. I haven't seen much of them so I can't comment on that too much. The weapons they have are not suitable for that.

Marbury is going against the coach without really letting him see how this works, and not running the play a single time is definitely overkill.

by **Amphatoast** on Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:16 pm

brown wants marbury to be like billups but marbury wants 20+ points a game which is iverson like
he needs to be half way between both of them

by **Jeffx** on Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:38 pm

Matthew wrote:
Brown will get the players he wants, and Isiah will assist him in that.....

That's what I'm hoping for, Matt, because I hate the way this team is built now. - too soft, too many jackers, low basketball IQ(I hate Crawford's game). I'll be ecstatic if LB can rebuild this team like Detroit.

Check out the recent link I posted at the Knicks thread - everything Simmons said is on point.

by **Doobie** on Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:58 pm

so Jeff , you wouldn't want to keep any of the players we have now??? Personally , I would keep Channing Frye , David Lee ,Trevor Ariza , Antonio Davis , and Penny Hardaway . Every other player I wouldn't mind leaving .

by **Matt** on Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:08 am

you wouldn't keep Ariza????

by **Jeffx** on Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:23 am

No, no, I like Ariza and the players Doob mentioned. But like he said, the rest can(and WILL) go once Brown cleans house.

..and if there's a power struggle between Brown and Isiah, who do you think management will side with? I already know the answer to that! :wink:

by **Fenix** on Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:23 am

DoobieKnicks wrote:so Jeff , you wouldn't want to keep any of the players we have now??? Personally , I would keep Channing Frye , David Lee , Antonio Davis , and Penny Hardaway . Every other player I wouldn't mind leaving .

Penny? What the hell? He can't do anything anymore. I bet Isiah is going to trade him for someone with bloated contract durring the ASG break.

by **Jackal** on Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:28 am

His contract runs up this year if I'm not mistaken, so keeping him would benefit their cap.

by **Fenix** on Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:26 am

Jacka-l wrote:His contract runs up this year if I'm not mistaken, so keeping him would benefit their cap.

If he could get rid of Crawford, James, Curry, Marbury, Q and others in this fantasy scenario, why wouldn't he send Penny to Hell where they all belong? Seriosly, did this guy (->Isiah) get anyone who doesn't have mental defects? On the other hand, it looks like he has a good hand at drafting young players. Complete and total mystery, I tell you.

by **air gordon** on Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:22 am

Jeffx wrote:..and if there's a power struggle between Brown and Isiah, who do you think management will side with? I already know the answer to that!

i don't think it would be a good idea to leave the franchise in the hands of the nomadic brown

"rebulding" is not in the vocabulary of nyk fans so the chances of isiah succeeding is unlikely

by **Matt** on Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:08 am

Brown will be with NY 2 yrs MAX.....he'll go insane during that period

by **Doobie** on Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:12 am

Matt wrote:you wouldn't keep Ariza????

How could i forget him , I thought I put him down , Well yea , Ariza would be first on that list .

by **Jeffx** on Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:16 am

air gordon wrote:"rebulding" is not in the vocabulary of nyk fans so the chances of isiah succeeding is unlikely

There's a myth that you can't rebuild in NY because the fans won't tolerate it. Hardcore fans(ones who know the game) will tolerate a rebuilding team IF it's heading in the right direction. The problem with the Knicks is short-sighted ownership that wants playoffs every year(whether they're championship caliber or not). It's all about filling the Garden and making money. It's always been that way here, and it's a big reason why this franchise hasn't won a title in 32 years.

by **kinokong** on Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:06 pm

they're just probably hoping that they get the first pick in 2007 and greg oden becomes the next patrick ewing and saves their franchise...

by **Doobie** on Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:09 pm

wtf are you talking about ??? If they get the 1st overall pick in 2007 , they are fucked . Chicago has the right to switch picks with the Knicks that year . And Jeff , I've been A knicks fan for 2-3 years now , but I wouldnt mind seeing them rebuild for a few seasons .

by **kinokong** on Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:10 pm

didn't know about the switching picks.... my bad

by **air gordon** on Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:22 pm

jeffx- do you go to games? if you're really dissatisfied, you should stop going and convince whoever you know that has season tickets to do the same/not renew their tickets for next season

by **Jeffx** on Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:24 am

air gordon wrote:jeffx- do you go to games? if you're really dissatisfied, you should stop going and convince whoever you know that has season tickets to do the same/not renew their tickets for next season

I went to a pre-season game, but a friend got tickets from his client. Before that, I haven't been to a game in ten years. I don't have Cablevision either - Dolan's not getting my loot.

by **Matt** on Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:28 pm

On Brown....he's a bit weird, he always chewed Mehmet Okur for playing on the perimeter but never said shit to Rasheed Wallace.

Larry Brown vs. Stephon Marbury, Round One!

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