Bucks get Magloire for Mason

[Emiliano]

Hornets

*Finalizing their rebuilding mode
*Trading Magloire Veteran for the team. Good center that if healthy can put up good numbers.

Bucks

*Trading Mason (They now have Bobby Simmons)
*Using Bogut as a PF and Magloire as a C or viceversa Its bad because nowadays, the nba lacks centers. The center position is quickly declining and I think Bogut could be a good C in the future. Although it's also good because who wouldn't like a frontcourt with a 1st overall draft pick and a former All-Star.

[maes]

I think it's a good move for the Bucks assuming they have a good year, which they should by the numbers.

I don't think there will be an issue with playing time at C. Defensively active Centers (unless you're Shaq) must rotate because of foul trouble. Jerome James averaged a pretty good Blocks Per Minute at the cost of racking up 8+ fouls per 48 minutes. Assuming Bogut isn't an instant Shaq or Wallace, he's gonna get in foul trouble. And it takes a while to learn to play out of foul trouble, Tyson Chandler STILL hasn't gotten the hang out of it.

Mason won't see the light of day behind Redd & Simmons, and it's not so small a salary you can just keep paying him for benchwarming.

So assuming the Bucks do well, their draft pick won't be as hard a loss.

I really don't see what Hornets get out of it, but i stopped trying to figure out that owner a long time ago.

[mredd22]

it was a great trade for the hornets magilor isn't half as good as mason larry harris probally was drunk driveing again

[Wayne]

Damit...i got Magloire in my fantasy team...now it's gonna be shitty for him to play in Mil..shit!!!

[Jackal_]

Damit...i got Magloire in my fantasy team...now it's gonna be shitty for him to play in Mil..shit!!!

Not like it was better for him in NO. Actually I think he'll be much better in Milwaukee..

[Jugs]

Hm, it's an okay trade, Hornets lose depth on the big men part and Bucks gain an extra Center.. trade bait

[D_up]

Man if Mason cuts down on those turn overs and can put up some nasty numbers for the Hornets then yay for me, I ended up having to "settle" for the guy in my fantasy league as Derek Anderson just wasn't going to cut it...

[Fresh8]

I love this trade for the Bucks... Magloire can start at the C or PF postion. I think Milwaukee wasn't prepared to let Bogut play too much anyways so this is good for them. Smith, Bogut, Magloire and Gadzurich are a good combo for the 4 and 5 spots. Decent rotation.

C: Malgoire
PF: Smith
SF: Simmons
SG: Redd
PG: Ford

Maybe that's the starters?

[Fitzy]

That might be the starting lineup at the start of the season, but eventually Bogut will start

[Matt]

that lineup looks good

add Bogut, Maurice Williams, Gadzuric, Kukoc to the bench and you have yourself a nice team.

[The X]

nice trade for Bucks....they needed another quality big to at least having a chance of competing against the likes of Detroit and Miami....whilst they won't be at that level, you'd have to imagine that they are a playoff team, especially with TJ Ford healthy again....

not a bad trade for Hornets either....

[Timothy Duncan]

I think the trade will work well for both sides.

The Hornets are rebuilding around athletic players and Mason is one very athletic player. They still got an unprotected first round pick next draft and get rid of a player that has expressed his desire to play elsewhere.

The Bucks get a good center that can provide either ofensive and defensive presence. With his adition, they also remove some of the pressure over Bogut's shoulders and the kid can learn the game besides a former All-Star. Milwaukee still have been suffering with injuries of Joe Smith and Gadzuric and if both players couldn't play they would be very thin on the frontcourt.

I think Bogut and Magloire may play together at some time, but Stotts say that Smith is the starter:

At a news conference at the Pepsi Center Wednesday night prior to the Bucks' game against the Denver Nuggets, coach Terry Stotts said that Magloire would start at center and that Joe Smith, if healthy, would start at power forward. That would relegate Bogut, who started all eight exhibition games at center, to the bench. Smith missed the first six exhibition games with a knee injury and was limited to about 12 minutes in each of the two games in which he did play.

[J@3]

Larry Harris said that Bogut and Magloire will start. Maybe he could just sack Stotts if he doesn't get his way lol.

[Gator]

OMG, Desmond Mason is amazing.. damn.

[air gordon]

he isn't overpaid either and i don't see anyone saying he is all star material...

Tell that to the people who voted for him to the all-star game. Winning the MVP in the all-star game doesn't really say much either....

lol the coach for the all star team actually named magloire to the team as a reserve IIRC. he wasn't there because he was voted on lol

and this is poor logic anyway.. saying he's overrated snce some people punched his name on the ballot- the ballot basically lists every starting center from each team.

as far as his performance in the game: 19pts, 8rebs. a lot of the media and fans were criticizing magloire's selection, especially since Lebron James was left off the team. good for magloire for having a solid game

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=fanball-bucksifhealthysmithw&prov=fanball&type=lgns

Bucks coach Terry Stotts said that Joe Smith, if healthy, would start at power forward, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. "It depends on Joe's health. I would anticipate, to be honest with you, with a healthy Joe Smith, that Joe will start, Joe has been a big part of this team's success. Defensively, he's been an anchor. But if Joe's not ready to go, then I think I would start Andrew," Stotts said.

looks like smith is starting if he's healthy

[Its_asdf]

lol the coach for the all star team actually named magloire to the team as a reserve IIRC. he wasn't there because he was voted on lol

Damn, I forgot about that.

as far as his performance in the game: 19pts, 8rebs.

Heh, I knew that would be brought up. Scoring 19 points and 8 rebounds in an All-star is worthy of praise, but it isn't really anything that blows my mind. I mean there really isn't much competition and guys are just there to have fun and fool around.

[air gordon]

it's a no win situation for magloire. people say he shouldn't have been on the team over lebron james. and then he goes out and has a good game but some people still aren't satisfied

anyway, no one's given any valid argument as to why they think he's overrated

[putodelagoa]

He isn't overrated. There are so precious few centers in the league right now that any guy able to hit a jump hook and tell right from left might get an all-star selection at center. It's just stupid it would happend, but what can you do?
Magloire is a double double guy, but so used to be PJ Brown, and nobody ever talked of him as a franchise saviour.
All centers in today's game that do the stuff centers are supposed to do - block shots, take space, be mean, rebound, score the putback, pass from the pivot are stupidly overpaid- If you're a center and you are remotely productive you'll be overrated by default, which means you'll earn some ludicrous amount of money to do stuff you're supposed to do. Damn, I regret not having been 7 feet tall

Dampier threats to break the 50 all time greatest players list by averaging a whopping 12&12? Give him a 10 000 000 dollar contract...
Samuel Dalembert goes Bill Russel on you 5 minutes a night? 10 000 000...
Eddy Curry is "instant offense at both ends of the court" and is out-rebounded by a 6 footer? 10 000 000...
There's a Darko guy that can run and spell his name? Select him nr 2...

[boconcio]

Magloire is good, and Mason too. it is a pretty fair trade, and it helps them both, as i don't think Bogut is ready to put up big numbers this year, he willlearn alot from Magloire.

[Carmo]

So if all big men who are remotely productive are overrated then that would mean they are not overrated?

[Andrew]

I was surprised to hear about that trade. I like both of those players as the third or fourth player (or maybe as high as being the number two guy in a pinch), but I have a feeling the Hornets may regret not getting a big man in return for Magloire and the Bucks have kind of replaced one logjam with another. I'm not sold on the idea that Magloire will help out in the development of Bogut and Gadzuric. Not only does his presence eat into their minutes, it's not as though he's a fully developed and experienced veteran with the maturity to tutor young bigs. That said, he does beef up Milwaukee's frontline, no question about that.

Mason's a fine player and I can see him doing well personally in New Orleans and he fits in with the idea of building around youth and athleticism, but big men are valuable commodities while there's quite a few talented swingmen around. True, it's hard to destroy a team that's already in the basement but I think in terms of a sound rebuilding plan, this was a lateral movement rather than a change for the better.

So for now, I'd give the advantage to Milwaukee since their roster looks more well-rounded and should give them a much better chance to contend for the playoffs.

[Stevesanity]

lol why are people saying magliore is overrated?

the birdman is a hack, he wouldn't make it past the 10:00 mark without drawing his 2nd foul

i'm hoping david west gets a chance to start

But yet his stats show hes one of the best rebounders and shot blockers in the league but hasnt got the minutes to make it to the leader board, if Ben Wallace could do it theres no reason as to why he cant although he is a big time goofball....but he does have more height, better reach and more athletic ability but just needs to refine himself in certain areas and he'd make a top notch defensive stopper.

But on the trade well I think the Hornets rushed into it too quickly, just like the Raptors did with Vince..they could have at least gotten a posty back for Big Cat. Dmase and JR is certaintly an athletic punch but now Kirk Snyder will wither away and poor old Casey Jacobsen and Bostjan Nachbar wont get to play that much.

[Fenix]

When will Macijauskas play? I hope they don't think he can play a PG in this league.

[Metsis]

The deal was that Mason wanted out... He wanted to be traded so they probably shopped him around and got the best deal from the Hornets... Magloire, when healthy is a good center.

Macijauskas is a shooter... And a damn good one at that too.

Intresting to see how the minutes will be spread between all the small guys in NOK...

[Ataraxia]

hopefully they'll trade JR to the Nuggets.